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SnyperWiper
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Making PC/GamePlay faster with stopping irrelevant services/tasks (only while playing) ?


What do you think about it ?


first some BASICs (brainstorm) (WinXP-SP2-based at the moment) :

- 1st make a complete backup/image of your system :-)
- Dont use XP-SP3 beta at the moment :-)  http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=95399
- Use Win XP Professional SP2 :-)
- Clear c:\windows\temp and c:\documents.bla\username\localsetttings\temp
- Clean your PC using CCleaner, run Spybot S&D ( see www.filehippo.com  )
- Switch Windows to NO-SwapFile, Reboot, run complete DEFRAG, return to WITH Swapfile, reboot
- Refresh ALL of your win-drivers that are possible !! Reinstall them if newer once are available.
   (this is the very first thing ANY supporter wants you to in case of serious trouble.)
   (maybe you did any windows/microsoft-updates, and that maybe a reason in an old (bios) system environment.)
(   My best result in case of serouis problems (hardware/driver) was to deinstall ALL devices in devicemanager in 1 turn (!)
    and then reboot, reinstall chipsetdrivers first, and then just reinstall ALL other component-drivers onces (freshest available)
    only 1 boot at all needed while reinstallation of drivers
    BUT FIRST OF ALL: pls make a Backup/Image !!!! )
- Update your applications (only if possible/comfortable)
- Flash your mainboards, then VGAs, then and all possible BIOS´
- Flash Firmware of CDROM a.s.o.
- For noobs: update drivers first, flash Bios´ last !
- Check IDE-cabling: RW/RAM is master, CD/ROMs are Slave (NO CableSelect-Config please)
- Best is CD-ROM as master on dedicated Port
- Clean the Laser in CDROMs (maybe), or buy new CD-ROM/DVD :-)
- Do not use USB-Speaker or USB-Microphones or any other unneeded USB-Devices. esp. audiodevs
- Use wired PS/2-Mouse if possible/comfortable
- You can also try turning dynamic shadows and dynamic lighting to low/lower... (thx:-)
- Disable ALL PowerSavings.
- Take 3 GB RAM (not 4 GB !) or take 64bit-OS
- Cool down your all of your system
- check the MTU on your routers/Firewalls outbound interface.
    It must be corresponding to your providers MTU. Otherwise: packet-fragmentation/Packet-loss=bad latency/ping
    If you have DSL, maybe let your provider enable "FastPath" on your port in DSLAM
    many megs on connect are cool, but a bad latency (ping) is not so cool, 10meg or not (!)
- Replace (DISABLE) your software/windows-firewall. Use a firewall on your router if possible !!
    (See BF2S.com-forums for configuring/opening the JUST right ports there for BF2-Client)
- Create an non-administrative (guest-)useraccount for gaming,
   copy your past (administrative) userprofile and/or BF2-Game-Profile to the new useraccount (ie via 2nd admin-user)
   revoke lokal & network file-permissions of this useraccount, disconnect network drives
   logged on to this (guest)useraccount, I disable Firewall & VirusScanner before start playing. Reboot after playing !!



StopAllServices.bat
BATCH-FILE-OPTIMIZING / Customizing to your PC:
-------------------------------------------------------------
AIM OVERALL:
        before starting the game please at least MANUALLY stop possible things in the systray down right
        stop all USB-Drives and "save eject"/dismount your unneeded CardReader-Drives/USB-Hardware/CD/DVD-Media
        stop virusscanner&firewall (only in non-administrative account/login!)
        EXECUTE the (customized) StopAllServices.BAT   (Wait a second after ready)
        Start and ENJOY BF2 or any other game maybe a bit faster :-))

Attention:
If you start my batchfile WITHOUT checking it NOTHING BAD happen can happen to your system (!!!)
Just restart Windows to undo ALL what my batch has done to your system (just stopping things)

watch/edit  my batchfile to know which tasks/services are unneeded for BF2 (=maybe making it slower)
LINK:

DOWNLOAD-LINK:
[sorry, no more available]   >>:0)

but know: you will not find all tasks FROM YOUR PC in the Batch because this is CUSTOM from MY PC,
               you will have to find out more, additional, individual services and tasks on YOUR CUSTOM PC
               because you use other/additionally software than I do. OK?

My advise: Just run my batch, observing the number of running services and tasks BEFORE and AFTER running it.
Then try to optimize it  by MANUALLY stopping some of the remaining taks & services, but ONLY TOUCH this one
which are coming FROM YOUR PERSONAL INSTALLATIONS/PROGRAMS/CDs/Downloads.
DO NOT TOUCH ANY MORE FROM THE STANDARD-WINDOWS-XP-SP2-BASED SERVICES & TASKS. I have all tried them out.
Be carefull at THIS POINT !! OK ?

Only check Services/tasks from your applications (i.e: scanner/printer-things, Download-Tools, Tools, eMule a.s.o.)
Try to stop all of it but not up to more than 5 things at a time. Remember them. Then play the game for a night,
and if you have no problems (from stopping this) ADD them manually to my ääh your personal :-) batchfile.
Then try the next if remaining. If you have success maybe you send me a summary of your stopped tasks :-)

Maybe u dont like me: ACTUAL FIRMWAREZ and DRIVERS are fundamentally !
Especially on Gamer-Systems

Good Luck, take care & play fast :-)
SnyperWiper

Last edited by SnyperWiper (2019-12-06 16:25:09)

ReTox
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Good post.

I would warn about CCleaner and other Registry cleaners.  Always, ALWAYS backup your registry first, preferably to a thumb drive.  I've seen them trash more than one windows install.

May I also add: check out Black Viper's services pages to find out what services you can disable to squeeze a few more cycles out of your environment.
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6355|what

ReTox wrote:

I would warn about CCleaner and other Registry cleaners.
I wouldn't warn about CCleaner, I'd recommend it! Great program.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
ReTox
Member
+100|6702|State of RETOXification

TheAussieReaper wrote:

ReTox wrote:

I would warn about CCleaner and other Registry cleaners.
I wouldn't warn about CCleaner, I'd recommend it! Great program.
Do you know how much data is in your registry?  And you trust a third party piece of software to manage every possible combination of Keys and Values?  Not me, no way... I've seen CCleaner trash registries.

CCleaner is great for cleaning up program caches like FireFox and IE but I wouldn't trust it to my registry without backing it up first.  Better safe than sorry.

Last edited by ReTox (2008-03-07 19:35:30)

steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6584|the land of bourbon
don't turn off your windows firewall, it really doesn't use a whole lot of resources.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36e1d9e36ae924048a933db90fb05bb247fe315e.png
SnyperWiper
Member
+4|6849|Germany

ReTox wrote:

but I wouldn't trust it to my registry without backing it up first.  Better safe than sorry.
Use CCleaner for Temp & Registry-Cleaning! No problems on many many installations !
I backup the registry-cleaning (CCleaner offers it) since 2 years or so, never needed to restore because of CCleaner.
NO PROBLEMS !!

Just take the actual version every time, und update your windows often

The win-firewall ist just blocking inbound traffic, no shield against trojaners going outbound !
Take ZoneAlarm or something else, better: Firewall on the hardware-router

Last edited by SnyperWiper (2008-03-08 13:58:15)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6696|N. Ireland
Some of it is pretty handy, others just plain stupid. 3GB not 4GB? Less RAM for better performance? lol..? And disable Windows Firewall? It hardly uses any resources! A lot of these are so minimal a difference would probably not be seen...except for the time you have left to play on that day.

Fair post, but a lot of it is so extreme - "clean lasers on CD drive" - I can't see many people doing this to make their games run faster; Most games now run without a DVD anyway..

A fair post. Some stuff I agree with, others I definetely do not!
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6400|Winland

kylef wrote:

Some of it is pretty handy, others just plain stupid. 3GB not 4GB? Less RAM for better performance? lol..? And disable Windows Firewall? It hardly uses any resources! A lot of these are so minimal a difference would probably not be seen...except for the time you have left to play on that day.

Fair post, but a lot of it is so extreme - "clean lasers on CD drive" - I can't see many people doing this to make their games run faster; Most games now run without a DVD anyway..

A fair post. Some stuff I agree with, others I definetely do not!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Hakei
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Would a game run quicker with a CD crack, or by having the CD in the drive?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6333|North Tonawanda, NY

SnyperWiper wrote:

XP only 3 GB! 4GB is contraproductive in 32bit.  Thats it !
It can theoretically support 4GB of RAM.  That has been said many times.  But other devices can usurp some of the address space that would go to the higher numbers of RAM.  Physical Address Extension can allow more than 4GB of RAM to be addressed.

https://www.demandtech.com/PAE-enabled.bmp

That's a 32-bit system with 4GB of RAM available.  And no, it's not my system.  It belongs to this guy.
SnyperWiper
Member
+4|6849|Germany

kylef wrote:

Some of it is pretty handy, others just plain stupid. 3GB not 4GB? Less RAM for better performance? lol..? And disable Windows Firewall? It hardly uses any resources! A lot of these are so minimal a difference would probably not be seen...except for the time you have left to play on that day.
Fair post, but a lot of it is so extreme - "clean lasers on CD drive" - I can't see many people doing this to make their games run faster; Most games now run without a DVD anyway......
XP only 3 GB! 4GB is contraproductive in 32bit.  Thats it !
The cleaning CD-Laser comes  from another task, may help in case of different problems()
Win-Firewall OFF: Read my text, see what I say (firewall on router or hardwarefirewall)


SenorToenails wrote:

It can theoretically support 4GB of RAM....
YES, but /PAE (/3GB) is interesting for servers and applications which support that feature.

Last edited by SnyperWiper (2008-03-08 13:58:48)

SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6333|North Tonawanda, NY

SnyperWiper wrote:

YES, but /PAE (/3GB) is interesting for servers and applications which support that feature.
Yes, but claiming 4GB of RAM is a bad idea in a 32-bit system is wrong.  That's all.

PAE is not just a server feature, either.  My laptop uses it.

Last edited by SenorToenails (2008-03-08 13:51:30)

SnyperWiper
Member
+4|6849|Germany

SenorToenails wrote:

PAE is not just a server feature, either.  My laptop uses it.
Yes, your laptops uses it. And gets slower by doing that

I am not discussing theoretical possibilities of windows, thus I am talking about making BF2 faster.

Last edited by SnyperWiper (2008-03-08 14:01:59)

SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6333|North Tonawanda, NY

SnyperWiper wrote:

Yes, your laptops uses it. And gets slower by doing that
I'm curious:  How does PAE slow down my system?
SnyperWiper
Member
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SenorToenails wrote:

I'm curious:  How does PAE slow down my system?
What do U think PAE is ? A performance-free, highRAMcalculating thing that runs on the internetor what ?
No, its working on your system and takes time & a bit of the lower Ram.
Thats why its called physical. thats why I call it contraproductive in THIS sense

Last edited by SnyperWiper (2008-03-09 09:36:08)

SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6333|North Tonawanda, NY

SnyperWiper wrote:

What do U think PAE is ? A performance-free, highRAMcalculating thing that runs on the internetor what ?
No, its working on your system and takes time & a bit of the lower Ram.
Thats why its called physical. thats why I call it contraproductive in THIS sense
OK, so you don't actually know.  I had asked you a serious question, so I am glad that you could answer with some maturity. 

I looked it up myself, and it appears that in some cases there is a performance penalty that is dependent on multiple factors, including how much RAM above 4GB you have installed.  One would imagine that a slight performance decrease in exchange for being able to address a full 4GB of RAM would be worth it.  But hey, to each his own.
SnyperWiper
Member
+4|6849|Germany

SenorToenails wrote:

...in some cases there is a performance penalty that is dependent on multiple factors....
...thats what I mean :-) in some cases/multiple factors.... so just exclude the possibility.

and I have some more done, pls re-read my first post if you want. changes.
RS

Last edited by SnyperWiper (2008-03-10 17:38:30)

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