Poll

Is Germany being too politically correct?

Yes62%62% - 54
No11%11% - 10
I have no idea what you're talking about.25%25% - 22
Total: 86
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6446|Chicago, IL

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Germans are at least opening up to their past.
We already did! What do you think is a major part in our history lessons? What Topics are discussed for decades? Germany is one of the few countries, which are facing towards the lessons of history!
Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
We definitely had a few lessons on the slaughter of native Americans in our history class, along with the questionable rhetoric behind the war of 1812, the Spanish American war, and the eventual war in the Philippines. 

We also look at the German and Japanese sides of WWII (especially how you got f**cked over by the treaty of Versailles).

Of course, that was my personal experience with education, I'm sure a lot of other schools aren't quite so revisionist in their curriculum.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6689|Tampa Bay Florida

Turquoise wrote:

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
Who started both world wars?
Germany didn't start WW1.  Technically, Austria did.

If we want to get really technical, the Serbs did.
Oh snap

Damn Serbs
jord
Member
+2,382|6677|The North, beyond the wall.

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
How do you know what other countries get taught at school...? They don't teach us to blame it on others at all, what are you talking about?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6404|North Carolina
What's probably most disturbing is how the Japanese gloss over their own atrocities against China and such.

I would argue the Japanese Imperialists were far worse than the Nazies.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6689|Tampa Bay Florida

jord wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
How do you know what other countries get taught at school...? They don't teach us to blame it on others at all, what are you talking about?
I blame Germany for the hamburger
jord
Member
+2,382|6677|The North, beyond the wall.

Spearhead wrote:

jord wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
How do you know what other countries get taught at school...? They don't teach us to blame it on others at all, what are you talking about?
I blame Germany for the hamburger
I was getting taught at school that the Earl of Sandwich made the Sandwich and my teacher told me everyone is descended from africa and England are not to blame for the numerous deaths the Sandwich has caused because really he was actually African and that means the Africans are to blame
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6648
Leave the poor bastards alone.
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|6708|Germany
This was actually a pretty interesting thread.
Why do guys have to derail it like that ?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6452|The Twilight Zone

Spearhead wrote:

jord wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
How do you know what other countries get taught at school...? They don't teach us to blame it on others at all, what are you talking about?
I blame Germany for the hamburger
Lol make more retarded posts.
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[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|6652|pimelteror.de

jord wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
How do you know what other countries get taught at school...? They don't teach us to blame it on others at all, what are you talking about?
We learned in school, that the nazi regime and its willing helpers were responsible for all the atrocities and war crimes. there is great regret for what happenend. but you guys still think, it was necessary evil to bomb civil quarters and refugee camps. there is the difference. in germany, you have to be very careful, when you want to discuss about innocent german victims of the war. everyone else enjoys the black/white mentality...
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6452|The Twilight Zone
Nazis, current German people = two entirely different meanings.
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Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6689|Tampa Bay Florida

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

jord wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
How do you know what other countries get taught at school...? They don't teach us to blame it on others at all, what are you talking about?
We learned in school, that the nazi regime and its willing helpers were responsible for all the atrocities and war crimes. there is great regret for what happenend. but you guys still think, it was necessary evil to bomb civil quarters and refugee camps. there is the difference. in germany, you have to be very careful, when you want to discuss about innocent german victims of the war. everyone else enjoys the black/white mentality...
Sorry pal, I'll refer you to the nationalism thread.  You don't know what we learn. 

I also happen to be a pretty big WW2 history buff.  So you wanna say everything I think about your country and other countries is black and white, fine.  But I may know more than you on the subject.  But it doesn't matter.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6497|Texas
I think it's none of my business how Germany handles its internal governing. As long as they are free to vote, and come to some kind of collective decision, I don't care if they all work 4 hour days and sing Kumbayah the rest of the day. Actually, as long as they don't fuck with me or kill people I don't even care if they let the Nazi party come back. So long as they don't get violent I guess they ought to have the right to speak their minds.

By the way, cool fact of the day: There's an ad at the bottom of my page for a book by Barton Biggs called "Wealth, War, and Wisdom". I once had a breakfast meeting scheduled with him in New York at the Morgan Stanley headquarters (across the street from my hotel), and stood him up because I stayed out partying the night before til 6 a.m. and slept through the alarm, hung over.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6620|London, England

Dersmikner wrote:

I don't even care if they let the Nazi party come back. So long as they don't get violent
That's an oxymoron isn't it. Nazism = much violence, it's practically part of the manifesto.

Kinda like Islam
eEyOrE
LINKS 2 3 4
+14|5995|Berlin, Germany

max wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

max wrote:

Although if you look at recent political trends in Germany, they do seem to be picking up on the nazi mindset again
How so?

They just hosted the World Cup really well, everything seems to be going smooth in the ol' Rhinelands
hate against minorities (Jews, Blacks, Turks, ...) is way too high, especially in the east
government encouraging envy of rich people, blaming them for all sorts of problems (just like the nazis did with the jews)
calling people traitors that move away
police using illegal methods to get proof for crimes
encouraging people to spy on their neighbors/parents
increasing disregard for democratic principles and effort to curb freedoms
attempt to separate kids from their parents as much as possible including indoctrination at the day-care centers/schools
ect
like u have a clue what you are talkign about! how about some proof for your claims, if ya dont have that shut up! especially your part about encouraging people to spy on their neighbors is really great, idiot!
Ruckel
Ruckel for all!
+43|6174|sverige

S.Lythberg wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Germans are at least opening up to their past.
We already did! What do you think is a major part in our history lessons? What Topics are discussed for decades? Germany is one of the few countries, which are facing towards the lessons of history!
Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
We definitely had a few lessons on the slaughter of native Americans in our history class, along with the questionable rhetoric behind the war of 1812, the Spanish American war, and the eventual war in the Philippines. 

We also look at the German and Japanese sides of WWII (especially how you got f**cked over by the treaty of Versailles).

Of course, that was my personal experience with education, I'm sure a lot of other schools aren't quite so revisionist in their curriculum.
Anything about Korea?
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|6722|SPARTA
hell yes we are!!!!!!!!!!! we would eat shit to not displease any random hobo.....
we have no dignity
jord
Member
+2,382|6677|The North, beyond the wall.

SineNomine wrote:

we have no dignity
Shit.

That's what the average German person thought before the Nazi party sprung up...
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|6722|SPARTA

max wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

max wrote:

Although if you look at recent political trends in Germany, they do seem to be picking up on the nazi mindset again
How so?

They just hosted the World Cup really well, everything seems to be going smooth in the ol' Rhinelands
hate against minorities (Jews, Blacks, Turks, ...) is way too high, especially in the east
government encouraging envy of rich people, blaming them for all sorts of problems (just like the nazis did with the jews)
calling people traitors that move away
police using illegal methods to get proof for crimes
encouraging people to spy on their neighbors/parents
increasing disregard for democratic principles and effort to curb freedoms
attempt to separate kids from their parents as much as possible including indoctrination at the day-care centers/schools
ect
are you sure you're living in switzerland??? because thats a neighbouring country, and by that it would be impossible to get such hilarous informations. serious, what newspaper do you read????
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|6722|SPARTA

jord wrote:

SineNomine wrote:

we have no dignity
Shit.

That's what the average German person thought before the Nazi party sprung up...
and the funny thing is, that a new poll says that more than half the germans have lost the trust in democracy, just as in weimar. all we need is a strong party with unifiying character and a strong leader
and the next thing that happens.... well see
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|6722|SPARTA

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Dersmikner wrote:

I don't even care if they let the Nazi party come back. So long as they don't get violent
That's an oxymoron isn't it. Nazism = much violence, it's practically part of the manifesto.

Kinda like Islam
hitler = violence
national socialism = socialism on a national basis = not violence, but a "get out" for foreigners
jord
Member
+2,382|6677|The North, beyond the wall.

SineNomine wrote:

jord wrote:

SineNomine wrote:

we have no dignity
Shit.

That's what the average German person thought before the Nazi party sprung up...
and the funny thing is, that a new poll says that more than half the germans have lost the trust in democracy, just as in weimar. all we need is a strong party with unifiying character and a strong leader
and the next thing that happens.... well see
Lol, I can't see it happening again for some time. In comparison to 1940's Germany today's modern Germany isn't up to par with the rest of the World. That's if they did decide to invade Poland again or something. With the United Nations and all. As well as Germany being allies with America/Britain now.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6549|CH/BR - in UK

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Think about what your countries did in the past and how they teach you to blame it on the others!
Who started both world wars?
And who brought it on? Come fucking on, if you send a country that far into poverty, of course there's going to be an angry retaliation!

One thing a lot of you don't take into account is that Hitler was actually exactly Germany needed to get out of the depression (except for the whole crazy part). Money was worth nothing, and they were low on hope. Next time think about how you punish people...

-konfusion

Last edited by konfusion (2008-02-24 10:55:07)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6469

SineNomine wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Dersmikner wrote:

I don't even care if they let the Nazi party come back. So long as they don't get violent
That's an oxymoron isn't it. Nazism = much violence, it's practically part of the manifesto.

Kinda like Islam
hitler = violence
national socialism = socialism on a national basis = not violence, but a "get out" for foreigners
The 'nationalist' part of 'nationalist socialism' doesn't declare the basis/scale of the socialism... it describes the characteristically nationalist values, and everything arising out of that political stance e.g. xenophobia, the importance of nationality, majority representation, and alienation of minorities. It does imply some sort of conflict or violence, because there is no such thing as an idyllic nationalist state- there will always be people displaced or uprooted if a nationalist government comes into power. It's like a huge filtration of the population where only the 'ideal' citizens can remain.
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FallenMorgan
Member
+53|5913|Glendale, CA

max wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

max wrote:

Although if you look at recent political trends in Germany, they do seem to be picking up on the nazi mindset again
How so?

They just hosted the World Cup really well, everything seems to be going smooth in the ol' Rhinelands
hate against minorities (Jews, Blacks, Turks, ...) is way too high, especially in the east
government encouraging envy of rich people, blaming them for all sorts of problems (just like the nazis did with the jews)
calling people traitors that move away
police using illegal methods to get proof for crimes
encouraging people to spy on their neighbors/parents
increasing disregard for democratic principles and effort to curb freedoms
attempt to separate kids from their parents as much as possible including indoctrination at the day-care centers/schools
ect
You mean...like in the US?

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