Oh God! I'm so glad you told me!AllmightyOz wrote:
This is reality not math. There are imaginary numbers in math as well. Square root of a negative number for example. You could never have that in reality.
Alright. Since the first post didn't understand what he was talking about, he didn't mention theory. The correct solution to his problem involves limits and infinities, both of which are theory.AllmightyOz wrote:
The first post never said anything about this being purely theory. Theory is flawed, just like Pi.
SenorToenails wrote:
I still don't understand why this is so hard to grasp. What is the trouble?Hakei wrote:
Wrong, we will not touch. Even if we did that an infinite amount of times.
In maths it works, in reality it doesn't.
I suppose that's because I am trying to compare a physical process to a theory, which I shouldn't be doing.
In maths .999 = 1 will work, however in reality the 9/10ths thing won't.
I get it, and I have for a long time, I'm just here to play for the other team.Hakei wrote:
In maths .999 = 1 will work
If you did it an infinite number of times, yes.Hakei wrote:
I get it, and I have for a long time, I'm just here to play for the other team.
I just like to compare this with halving our body distance, and then halving it again, now if we kept doing this, would we ever touch?
There, I said it without using the word infinity.
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Pi does not repeat. It is an irrational number.AllmightyOz wrote:
It all comes back to pi. A repeating number for the circumference of a circle. A circle (wheel for instance) is only so big. With pi, its so big to an infinitively small number.
Reality > Theory.
Everything should be in sig figs. In my opinion.
So the correct answer is no, unless you do something that is physically impossible?SenorToenails wrote:
If you did it an infinite number of times, yes.Hakei wrote:
I get it, and I have for a long time, I'm just here to play for the other team.
I just like to compare this with halving our body distance, and then halving it again, now if we kept doing this, would we ever touch?
There, I said it without using the word infinity.
Note: That is physically impossible.
OK. Let me put this in another, more obvious way.Hakei wrote:
So the correct answer is no, unless you do something that is physically impossible?
Jesus, way to answer a question.
This is also used to calculate limits.SenorToenails wrote:
OK. Let me put this in another, more obvious way.Hakei wrote:
So the correct answer is no, unless you do something that is physically impossible?
Jesus, way to answer a question.
Suppose you have two infinitesimal points, separated by some set distance.
If you cut the distance in half a finite number of times, then no, they will not touch.
If you cut the distance in half an infinite number of times, then yes, they will touch.
I had the physically impossible comment in there to prevent "but atoms have size, so they will touch" bullshit.
I certainly hope you can understand this answer.
As has been mentioned many times.Gawwad wrote:
This is also used to calculate limits.
If n the number of explanations, it needs to get pretty close to infinity before people without a mathematical education get thisSenorToenails wrote:
As has been mentioned many times.Gawwad wrote:
This is also used to calculate limits.
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I understand infinity, but I don't think you quite understand -- I know that .999 is equal to 1, I'm just interested in counter theories.Gawwad wrote:
Jesus Christ not again!!!
How many times do you need this explained to you?!
If you don't understand how infinity works in mathematics, then don't bother arguing your point. It's wrong.
4 pages. Many many explanations. Links to a whole wikipedia page dedicated to this and still you are arguing a non-issue...
In this case the Wikipedia article is correct, so I don't see a point in not using it.Hakei wrote:
I understand infinity, but I don't think you quite understand -- I know that .999 is equal to 1, I'm just interested in counter theories.Gawwad wrote:
Jesus Christ not again!!!
How many times do you need this explained to you?!
If you don't understand how infinity works in mathematics, then don't bother arguing your point. It's wrong.
4 pages. Many many explanations. Links to a whole wikipedia page dedicated to this and still you are arguing a non-issue...
Seeing as the answer to the question was answered on the first page, I decided instead of making a new topic, I'd add it here as it's quite relevant.
Also; I'll never ever read a wikipedia article if I don't understand something, wikipedia over uses long, complicated words in my opinion, and it would be much more convenient to google the question and get a decent answer.
The thing is, nobody will believe that you actually understand when you propose such obviously flawed counter-arguments.Hakei wrote:
I understand infinity, but I don't think you quite understand -- I know that .999 is equal to 1, I'm just interested in counter theories.
Seeing as the answer to the question was answered on the first page, I decided instead of making a new topic, I'd add it here as it's quite relevant.
Also; I'll never ever read a wikipedia article if I don't understand something, wikipedia over uses long, complicated words in my opinion, and it would be much more convenient to google the question and get a decent answer.
Because an encyclopedia is not a place to go if you want to learn something.Gawwad wrote:
In this case the Wikipedia article is correct, so I don't see a point in not using it.Hakei wrote:
I understand infinity, but I don't think you quite understand -- I know that .999 is equal to 1, I'm just interested in counter theories.Gawwad wrote:
Jesus Christ not again!!!
How many times do you need this explained to you?!
If you don't understand how infinity works in mathematics, then don't bother arguing your point. It's wrong.
4 pages. Many many explanations. Links to a whole wikipedia page dedicated to this and still you are arguing a non-issue...
Seeing as the answer to the question was answered on the first page, I decided instead of making a new topic, I'd add it here as it's quite relevant.
Also; I'll never ever read a wikipedia article if I don't understand something, wikipedia over uses long, complicated words in my opinion, and it would be much more convenient to google the question and get a decent answer.
It was used to back up a statement in this case not to educate people. (I didn't use it my self)Hakei wrote:
Because an encyclopedia is not a place to go if you want to learn something.Gawwad wrote:
In this case the Wikipedia article is correct, so I don't see a point in not using it.Hakei wrote:
I understand infinity, but I don't think you quite understand -- I know that .999 is equal to 1, I'm just interested in counter theories.
Seeing as the answer to the question was answered on the first page, I decided instead of making a new topic, I'd add it here as it's quite relevant.
Also; I'll never ever read a wikipedia article if I don't understand something, wikipedia over uses long, complicated words in my opinion, and it would be much more convenient to google the question and get a decent answer.
I went there once looking to understand Pythagorean theorem, didn't make ANY sense at all.
I went to another site that put it down easy and I understood, that's why I'll never use it to learn.
Hakei wrote:
Because an encyclopedia is not a place to go if you want to learn something.
That's what I thought. We shouldn't learn from compendiums of human knowledge, right?Bertster7 wrote:
Hakei wrote:
Because an encyclopedia is not a place to go if you want to learn something.
.999... = 1. Don't be a jackass.Hakei wrote:
I think that 0.99999.....999 = 0.99999.....999.
Read the thread. It's .99999...->carried on to infinity.RDMC wrote:
Wuts a motherfuckin repeater?
Ah I see.SenorToenails wrote:
Read the thread. It's .99999...->carried on to infinity.RDMC wrote:
Wuts a motherfuckin repeater?
