BF2S Forums Capital Punishment Essay

Teehee, CP.

RedTwizzler wrote:

If you're CHOOSING "for", then you should be able to defend it without help.

Otherwise, pick the alternative.

It does beg the question of why you'd go along with the idea of killing people if you can't make a compitent argument for it.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

It's a deterant. Stops repeat offenders.

It stops people from murdering again?

long live CP!!!

SenorToenails wrote:

Deterrence.  With some modifications to the system, it could be made to be cheaper than life incarceration.  Of course, then there is that whole wrongful guilt possibility...

Take a look here...

I noticed that all the sites in the "Religous veiws on Death Penalty" are against it.

anyone will tell you that it is not a deterrant.  suprised your teacher hadn't brought that up to you yet.  it actually is far from a detterant.   most also argue that it would be cheaper to just execute someone than let them live out the rest of their life i prison.  This is also false as with appeals and the lengthy court process and $ that way.  I still don't understand that, but i guess it's true.  Obviously our backlogged courts are to blame for that one. 

I am for capital punishment.  But I realize that it is not cut black and white, but has gray areas.  I have no reason executing a person who committed murder and there is solid evidence proving this.  Say it was on camera/video tape, or forensic evidence and it was determined through the courts that it was premeditated or something along that line.  If they cannot prove those criteria, then i say no.  See, that is the gray area i spoke about.

So we must say is this cruel and unusual punishment?  Cruel? eye for an eye in my book.  Unusual?  I guess so since every state has their own opinion on the matter. 

Again, if the evidence is there along with premeditation, kill the fuckers.  what's wrong with that?  I know that if someone murdered a family member of mine, in a cold blooded, senseless state, i would rather them be executed than get to live out their life in a prison, where they could actually kill again.  People like that deserve all the suffering that a person sitting on death row knows what is coming to them.  Period.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

It's a deterant. Stops repeat offenders.

It stops people from murdering again?

Your not going to get another chance if your sentenced to death, now are you?

Even if you get a life sentence there can be a parole option.

Oh right. I guess I was thinking about it the wrong way.

saying that CP is immoral is another topic that bothers me and what i believe is horribly wrong with this country.  the moment that the death penalty is brought up we forget about the VICTIM  and focus on the accused.  We look at the accused and think, "he messed up", "he was sick", he didn't mean it", "we can treat him", "he can still correct himself in prison".  The moment we think this and forget about the VICTIM, we become immoral.  Think about it, you've been murdered in cold blood and your murderer is getting sympathy votes from the anti-CP folk saying that he doesn't deserve it and how unfair it is.  I think i'd be rolling over in my grave.   Until it happens to us/our family then everything is immoral.  that is what is wrong with this country.  people are sheep and turn a blind eye to violence until it smacks them in the face and hits close to home.

CameronPoe wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Capital punishment is part of a bygone era. The concept of the state taking a potentially innocent persons life is outdated and is immoral besides. Lifelong incarceration without possibility of release is as much a deterrent as death itself (which would be the easy way out in an option between the two).

If you think in every case there is always enough doubt then you are being naive.

I'm not - I'm just saying that risking the possibility of even so much as one innocent person being put to death discounts it as a decent practice in my view, not to mention the irony of killing someone for killing someone.

There's always the possibility that some innocent person may be punished but this a rare event. Capital punishment should be used upon homicidal maniacs, serial killers etc, generally because they did it more than once and are very likely to do it again no matter how much re-education they are given in the attempt to bring them back into society. I wouldn't class something like manslaughter as am offence punishable by death, but certainly harsh jail time for it.

I've been thinking about this. If you're a criminal and have just done what you suspect will be a capital offense, you really have no reason to not carry on doing whatever you want. If the cops try to stop you you may as well try to kill them as you'll get killed if they arrest you anyway. Without capital punishment there's always the benefit of giving yourself up and getting life imprisonment above being killed in a shootout.

Funky_Finny wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa, guys... too many opinions.. I just need arguments and evidence.. I've got a few but nothing special, and I need to ace this essay or I'll fail

Well if you're after evidence then out of the rich western countries the US is the only one with capital punishment and also has the highest murder rate and rape rate. May not help you with your essay, but that's what the facts are. You could argue that the US needs capital punishment to combat this (leading to the obvious question of what's the root cause) or that capital punishment is one of the things leading to the increases.
http://sa.rochester.edu/masa/stats.php
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_m … per-capita