Esker
Member
+1|6967

Chowley wrote:

Esker wrote:

Well at least one good thing will come out of this.

Your 50-0 stats in a round will mean a lot more now.

Tking for AA though... Lol, you're gonna see that on Mashturr a lot.
I doubt it even complete idiots will realise getting in a blackhawk is suicide after a few days.
You reckon huh?

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/markjones959/screen006.jpg

Check these guys out

"Hey let's wait for the Blackhawk Spawn"

"Good idea, lets..."

"Umm guys... The blackhawk is over there and is being piloted by the enemy..."

"Oh... Well, we'll wait here anyways"
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7029|Singapore

x0pht wrote:

i will still fly J10 on wake, but what im gonna do now probably will be defending the island, instead of attacking the carrier.
its people like you who fucked it up.
x0pht
Member
+0|6978

Umibozu_IT wrote:

x0pht wrote:

i will still fly J10 on wake, but what im gonna do now probably will be defending the island, instead of attacking the carrier.
and this is what air power should have meant to be used for since the game came out. unfortunately the game came out with an ridicolous overpowered air force, and that's why we had j-10 cleaning out the carrier's deck without being seriously threathened (except by enemy planes but most of the times there was a good pilot on a side and no pilot on the other side, what were infantrymen supposed to do in that cases?) . many ppl seems to don't get the point though. they are crying because now they COULD be shot down by aa
actually they should've improved the jet missiles only, and keep the AA's in 1.12.

this would encourage pilots to dogfight.
x0pht
Member
+0|6978

polarbearz wrote:

x0pht wrote:

i will still fly J10 on wake, but what im gonna do now probably will be defending the island, instead of attacking the carrier.
its people like you who fucked it up.
which part? u mean defending the island?
Umibozu_IT
Member
+15|6888|Italy

Chowley wrote:

Esker wrote:

Well at least one good thing will come out of this.

Your 50-0 stats in a round will mean a lot more now.

Tking for AA though... Lol, you're gonna see that on Mashturr a lot.
I doubt it even complete idiots will realise getting in a blackhawk is suicide after a few days.
i might be wrong but the aa turrets on mashtuur can cover barely half of the map. and in any case, you can fly behind the hills, pop up near the enemy aa turret and slaughter the guy on it before he has the chance to get a lock on you.


however, i think that the thing should be a bit more balanced on mashtuur now, with the blackhawk compelled to defend the usmc side of the map. a good squad on the blackhawk and the mec had no chance of succesfully defend a flag, since the mec chopper (aka "the flying potato") is good just to crash in the blackhawk.
raz
Member
+22|6904|England, UK
Dogfighting is HISTORY.. but bombing isn't. It's basically chance of who's tailing who, once you are, you've won (unless ofcourse you can't carryout simple manouvers, backflips barrel rolls etc.)..

Obviously, you'll notice a DRAMATIC change in pilots kill/death ratio for the most part of a couple of weeks, but your still gonna get pwned once we overcome this little problem. You can whine all day, but we'll be back in the game soon enough!

You just wait little "AA whores" (mwa-har)!
snowman219
Member
+0|6892

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

Mr.CobraKai wrote:

All I can say is.... it's about time.  You know the game is unbalanced in favor of airpower when EVERY ROUND the top three spots are made up of the best jet pilot, the best chopper pilot,  (both with outrageous K to D ratios), and the winning team's commander.  It will be nice to see some ground pounders get rewarded for the hard fought battles on the ground.
Nah, it'll just be the medic whores in first place now.
medic whores?  that's a new one, never heard that before.
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7073

Umibozu_IT wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

GotMex? wrote:


See I knew that plane superiority is still possible even with the new AA... just has to take more skill this time around.
Yes, but I was down in the red many times.. I had to take pass after pass after pass to heal.. I don't dare go into battle without full health anymore.
well this make this game really unbalanced!!!!! how come that you have now to deal with your plane's health! !!! this is nuts!!
If this is supposed to be a sarcastic post meaning "Oh no you have to worry about your plane's health now" you worded it horribly. You fail at life.
Yes, being in the red is a big deal for a jet. that means the slightest hit of anything whether it be a teammate getting trigger happy on the essex and letting off a few rounds of the chaingun(happens a lot) or a rogue missle coming from nowhere and hitting you, you're toast. AND If I hadn't taken out their air power before getting hit by the stinger/IGLA I probably wouldn't have gone 26 - 0.
I was in the red a lot in pre1.2 those stingers, believe it or not, in the right hands you can get shot down very quickly. I've shot down many jets with the stinger/IGLA/ESSEX/ Mobile AA PRE 1.2. It  was possible.. but nobody wanted to take the time to figure it out. So now it'll be up to the jet pilots again to become skillfull while the Infantry units are handed free rides all the time. I just think it's BS. Infantry whine, they get what the want.. what do they want? an easier ride through a vehicle map. Face it, it's not a infantry map! Hop in a jet, hop in a helo, hop in a tank. PLAY SMART. Nah, they'd rather whine. Give them what they want, whatever. It'll just give me that much more pleasure when I own your arses. And just wait, I'll become the biggest raper ever, JUST because of this AA BS. I'll find my way around AA and I'll RAPE you to death. and I may even bail out of my jet and hump your faces a little. Sounds like a good time.
ST19AG_WGreymon
Member
+5|6981|Clinton, MD, USA
You bash DICE and yet you still play BF2.
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7029|Singapore

x0pht wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

x0pht wrote:

i will still fly J10 on wake, but what im gonna do now probably will be defending the island, instead of attacking the carrier.
its people like you who fucked it up.
which part? u mean defending the island?
No i meant raping the carrier. If they weren't on the island, go ahead and shoot up everyone on deck and every RIB that left the carrier and the island. But countless MINDLESS jackasses shoot the carrier even when airfield is their LAST flag. Shooting the countless MINDLESS jackasses who INSIST on spawning on the top deck of the carrier.

No personal attack intended x0pht. I take back what i said about people like you ruining the game, I was stereotyping you even before I knew your playstyle. sorry there mate.
ColonelCanuck
Member
+2|6898

-iLL*NaYmL3sS wrote:

ColonelCanuck wrote:

-iLL*NaYmL3sS wrote:


i love how you call my chopper ratio unimpressive when yours is 0.16
Yeah like I've spent so much time in choppers. A whopping 2 hours and 23 minutes. Most of that time is spent riding out to the carrier in Iron Gator battles.

Dude, buy a flight simulator and quit complaining that you now have nothing to contribute to your team's success in this game!

Or get on the ground with us grunts and learn to help your team win, by aiming, killing, capping flags, healing, setting traps, supplying, repairing, assaulting, defending etc. There is more to BF2 than just flying!

The v1.12 AA sucked A$$. So EA "fixed" it.

Adapt or die! Plain and simple.

See you on the Battlefield.
no fuck you. you buy a new game. i read the fucking package for bf2 and bought it for what i expected. now its all fucked cause of bitches like you. you buy a new game cause you obviously dont play all aspects of the game. and until you do, stfu and dont tell me to buy a new game dumbass.
Last time I checked a 64 player map, it had only 3 or 4 choppers or planes per side. That means the vast majority of players in a map are on the ground fighting.

Most pilots once in the air, hardly ever get shot down unless they fly too low or get greedy for flags. So they have un-naturally high k/d ratios. Most ground pounders are proud to have 1.0 k/d ratios. Also, since pilots stay alive longer no one else gets to use these chopper/jets. Now who doesn't play all aspects of the entire game? Pilots!

Check my stats, well not very great I admit. I try to play balanced and have good even play times in each class. I am a much more well rounded player than you will ever be! Plus I didn't bitch like you are now when choppers were tearing me apart every game when I first started playing.

I can pilot a chopper just as well as anybody that needs to get from point A to point B. I prefer to kill on the ground where the action is. It's honest and much more sporting. Sure I die from choppers and jets sometimes. That comes with the territory.

BUT.... Choppers and plane pilots had it too easy in v1.12... it was nearly impossible shooting down choppers & jets. Now in order to get those ground kills you pilots have to fly through dangerous air. How terrible! I feel so sad for you.

Every damn open piece of dirt is dangerous for us ground pounders. A fair game is all we want.
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7029|Singapore

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

Umibozu_IT wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:


Yes, but I was down in the red many times.. I had to take pass after pass after pass to heal.. I don't dare go into battle without full health anymore.
well this make this game really unbalanced!!!!! how come that you have now to deal with your plane's health! !!! this is nuts!!
If this is supposed to be a sarcastic post meaning "Oh no you have to worry about your plane's health now" you worded it horribly. You fail at life.
Yes, being in the red is a big deal for a jet. that means the slightest hit of anything whether it be a teammate getting trigger happy on the essex and letting off a few rounds of the chaingun(happens a lot) or a rogue missle coming from nowhere and hitting you, you're toast. AND If I hadn't taken out their air power before getting hit by the stinger/IGLA I probably wouldn't have gone 26 - 0.
I was in the red a lot in pre1.2 those stingers, believe it or not, in the right hands you can get shot down very quickly. I've shot down many jets with the stinger/IGLA/ESSEX/ Mobile AA PRE 1.2. It  was possible.. but nobody wanted to take the time to figure it out. So now it'll be up to the jet pilots again to become skillfull while the Infantry units are handed free rides all the time. I just think it's BS. Infantry whine, they get what the want.. what do they want? an easier ride through a vehicle map. Face it, it's not a infantry map! Hop in a jet, hop in a helo, hop in a tank. PLAY SMART. Nah, they'd rather whine. Give them what they want, whatever. It'll just give me that much more pleasure when I own your arses. And just wait, I'll become the biggest raper ever, JUST because of this AA BS. I'll find my way around AA and I'll RAPE you to death. and I may even bail out of my jet and hump your faces a little. Sounds like a good time.
Fully agreed. For the last 4 hours I have been testing it out, and I think I already have the AA emplacements all down pat. Watch and wait you fucking whiners.
Umibozu_IT
Member
+15|6888|Italy

x0pht wrote:

Umibozu_IT wrote:

x0pht wrote:

i will still fly J10 on wake, but what im gonna do now probably will be defending the island, instead of attacking the carrier.
and this is what air power should have meant to be used for since the game came out. unfortunately the game came out with an ridicolous overpowered air force, and that's why we had j-10 cleaning out the carrier's deck without being seriously threathened (except by enemy planes but most of the times there was a good pilot on a side and no pilot on the other side, what were infantrymen supposed to do in that cases?) . many ppl seems to don't get the point though. they are crying because now they COULD be shot down by aa
actually they should've improved the jet missiles only, and keep the AA's in 1.12.

this would encourage pilots to dogfight.
uhm are you sure? slaythem seem to have been threathened alot by aa on wake... now if you're right well the whole damn thing would be really funny
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7029|Singapore

Dogfighting? With this kind of lock?

Don't make me laugh. A trained monkey could shoot anyone of us down.
raz
Member
+22|6904|England, UK

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I'll find my way around AA and I'll RAPE you to death. and I may even bail out of my jet and hump your faces a little. Sounds like a good time.
LMAO!! Sounds like a plan!! lol



Oh.. One problem, they removed face humping too!
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7073

ST19AG_WGreymon wrote:

You bash DICE and yet you still play BF2.
It's the way of life. You bash the creator, but you go on living.
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7073

raz wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

I'll find my way around AA and I'll RAPE you to death. and I may even bail out of my jet and hump your faces a little. Sounds like a good time.
LMAO!! Sounds like a plan!! lol



Oh.. One problem, they removed face humping too!
naw, it'll be slow and painful now
x0pht
Member
+0|6978

polarbearz wrote:

No i meant raping the carrier. If they weren't on the island, go ahead and shoot up everyone on deck and every RIB that left the carrier and the island. But countless MINDLESS jackasses shoot the carrier even when airfield is their LAST flag. Shooting the countless MINDLESS jackasses who INSIST on spawning on the top deck of the carrier.

No personal attack intended x0pht. I take back what i said about people like you ruining the game, I was stereotyping you even before I knew your playstyle. sorry there mate.
it's cool dude, i didnt take it as an offense. while i said "attacking carrier", i meant "aggressive attack". when the game starts, i go for the carrier and try to keep their air assets down, jets, cobra, BH... i shoot the boats that are trying to sneak behind. i also bomb the little island from where USMC can easily get on the island. i just do everything to help my team win. if we have lost the airfield, i jump out there, ask ppl join my squad and respawn on me so we can take it back. so i'm not those who just constantly bomb the carrier regardless of how their teams are doing. i only do so when all the USMC are sitting on the deck and screaming, "BOMB ME! BOMB ME!" :p

Last edited by x0pht (2006-02-14 13:00:10)

cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6936|NJ
slay is just a retard he goes on and on how unfair it is then post states that are good. Just look at there k/d ratio's everyone has close to or over 10, with a lot of teamkills. And there crying about the tanks the best people in tanks aren't even close to a 5 k/d ratio.

It's so obvious that the original AA was useless everyone knows that, it wouldn't ever hit your target flares or not. Piloting didn't take a lot of skill it's boring to me as boring as infantry to some of you pilots "run go prone shot" as appose to "slow down, bomb, reload". If you guys where really looking for some compatition with other pilots on servers it would show in your stats. But you're probably in one of those clans where first priority is to steal the others team air then fly around when you know all is safe and bomb. Now I'm just generalizing here but in all my hours of the game Pilots = Stat junkies, after all the flags are cap'd instead of jumping out of the plane and trying to cap a flag they continue to fly.

They had a good infantry to air mix in BFV now it was unfair on one side, and it seems EA evened it up.
Umibozu_IT
Member
+15|6888|Italy

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

Umibozu_IT wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:


Yes, but I was down in the red many times.. I had to take pass after pass after pass to heal.. I don't dare go into battle without full health anymore.
well this make this game really unbalanced!!!!! how come that you have now to deal with your plane's health! !!! this is nuts!!
If this is supposed to be a sarcastic post meaning "Oh no you have to worry about your plane's health now" you worded it horribly. You fail at life.
Yes, being in the red is a big deal for a jet. that means the slightest hit of anything whether it be a teammate getting trigger happy on the essex and letting off a few rounds of the chaingun(happens a lot) or a rogue missle coming from nowhere and hitting you, you're toast. AND If I hadn't taken out their air power before getting hit by the stinger/IGLA I probably wouldn't have gone 26 - 0.
I was in the red a lot in pre1.2 those stingers, believe it or not, in the right hands you can get shot down very quickly. I've shot down many jets with the stinger/IGLA/ESSEX/ Mobile AA PRE 1.2. It  was possible.. but nobody wanted to take the time to figure it out. So now it'll be up to the jet pilots again to become skillfull while the Infantry units are handed free rides all the time. I just think it's BS. Infantry whine, they get what the want.. what do they want? an easier ride through a vehicle map. Face it, it's not a infantry map! Hop in a jet, hop in a helo, hop in a tank. PLAY SMART. Nah, they'd rather whine. Give them what they want, whatever. It'll just give me that much more pleasure when I own your arses. And just wait, I'll become the biggest raper ever, JUST because of this AA BS. I'll find my way around AA and I'll RAPE you to death. and I may even bail out of my jet and hump your faces a little. Sounds like a good time.
well you must have been playing a different game, because in the last 8 months i've been firing stingers from 6 o'clock of enemy planes and only got team vehicle damage and some lucky frag (enemy planes already been hit).

regarding the red complain, don't you think is the same on the earth? everything in bf2 has a red health zone. you're in red with a plane, ok. you think it's easier to be in red with a tank or a jeep? a friendly nade, or a rocket that misses the enemy and blows near you, i mean... man we've got your same problems down here.

and you're wrong, in the last months a lot of people have learnt to fly choppers and planes properly. i can remember last summer when 9 ppl out of 10 just crashed in the water with blackhawks full of mates. now i can enter a blackhawk and be sure that i'll make it to my destination safe and sound. the community is not divided into pilots / not pilots
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7029|Singapore

x0pht wrote:

i only do so when all the USMC are sitting on the deck and screaming, "BOMB ME! BOMB ME!" :p
Perfectly reasonable then. Just that your post didn't really clarify that because 'now i have to defend' sounded like flags WERE taken and you were doing balls about it.
4lter_3go
Member
+1|6986|Leighton Barracks, Germany
ive noticed something about the AA.  and its very interesting (not the fact thats its insanely accurate, but something else). you dive right at them and the missles just fly right past you.

and another note i was usin the f-35 and i ended the round 23-1 in a jet. i fired 3 missles and i got 2 kills, while following the j-10 thru a very sharp turn. i killed 2 jets

Last edited by 4lter_3go (2006-02-14 13:16:21)

batman_psu
Member
+3|6991

raz wrote:

It's dreadful and completely un-realistic, i never reliased the intensity of the AA, even to the jets! The missiles can 180 and hit you! There's no missile in the world that can do that.
you ever see "Behind Enemy Lines"?  yeah i know its a movie, but its based on reality.  Missiles can do that stuff.  Unless you make the damn things, don't claim that there's "no way in the world that can do that."
ColonelCanuck
Member
+2|6898

Tiak wrote:

--This thread is hilarious.  What I see is this:  a few guys who have gotten used to how easy jets are in 1.12 and they can't take it that an 11.0 KDR isn't going to be a cakewalk any more. 

"i had some little fucking corpral shoot me down 3 times on dragon valley"

This quote is priceless.  You're complaining because you died 3 times? 

Here's the thing.  Up to now, pilots had absolutely zero respect for AA.  In 1.12 you can pretty much hop in a jet and NEVER get killed by AA.  Guess what, that wasn't because you were a 'great pilot'.  It was because it was easy.  No threat to you at all.  You think tanks and APC drivers don't panic when they hear beep-beep-beep?  Armor drivers RESPECT AT missiles as a serious threat, and they deal with it accordingly.  Tanks are not invincible, and the driver knows it.  Now jets are not invincible either.  And the pilots need to learn that.
AMEN Tiak.

This has to be the single best post to sum up all the debate over the new patch. I love to drive tanks etc. But when I hear beep... beep... I get the hell out of the way. Or retreat to safe location etc. But the times I do fly, when I hear the beep.. beep.. lockon tone, I could care less. I usually just deploy chaff etc. and keep on my merry way. This sums it up beautifully. Thanks Tiak!
raz
Member
+22|6904|England, UK

4lter_3go wrote:

ive noticed something about the AA.  and its very interesting (not the fact thats its insanely accurate, but something else)
Ahhh, thanx alot for your wonderful n' valuable comment my friend.

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