BF2S Forums Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?

"For while the rest of the world's ice masses are in retreat, this one is constantly replenishing itself."
So this article fully supports global warming.

The world is getting warmer, fact. This past two or three winters I haven't hardly needed a coat ffs whereas I can remember making snowmen as a kid.

CameronPoe wrote:

The world is getting warmer, fact. This past two or three winters I haven't hardly needed a coat ffs whereas I can remember making snowmen as a kid.

Well that is scientific enough.  It was 4 degrees (F) last night here.  That ain't to warm.

usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The world is getting warmer, fact. This past two or three winters I haven't hardly needed a coat ffs whereas I can remember making snowmen as a kid.

Well that is scientific enough.  It was 4 degrees (F) last night here.  That ain't to warm.

Not a fan of statistics and scientific fact? The average temperature of the atmosphere of planet earth has been rising for decades.

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Mek-Izzle wrote:

Yeah, world is getting warmer. Whether it's natural or man made doesn't matter because we still gotta prepare for it.

Also, it's a fact that air pollution is bad. And we would be better off without it.

So why are people so opposed to helping out the environment and preparing future generations in dealing with climate change?

Because people just can't be bothered anymore.
They don't realise that other people/things exist apart from money.
They are looking for any loophole, this is one, this will delay the truth from becoming clear.

what we talking about here the enhanced global warming effect or just generally global warming?

sergeriver wrote:

But Global Warming and colder winters aren't mutually exclusive, in fact if global warming continues to melt the ice sheets, then the ocean will be colder because of this ice, and then the several streams that warm the land in winter will be switched off.

Well something melted them before we were here also.

It's obviously a fact, it's not hard...

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

But Global Warming and colder winters aren't mutually exclusive, in fact if global warming continues to melt the ice sheets, then the ocean will be colder because of this ice, and then the several streams that warm the land in winter will be switched off.

Well something melted them before we were here also.

True, but it isn't supposed to happen now, since we are now in interglaciar period.  The last glaciation was about 10,000 years ago, so the next glaciation should take place in about 50,000 to 90,000 years.  What you can expect every 10,000 years are minor glaciations, and maybe we are in the beginning of one of those.

usmarine2005 wrote:

Well something melted them before we were here also.

True, but do you honestly think that air pollution didn't contribute at all to the fact that the average temperature is rising? Did it cross your mind that the increase would maybe only be half of what we're having today if we didn't persistently keep up the pollution?

Are you really that narrowminded you think we should just shrug our shoulders and ignore the Global warming theory and act as if nothing happened. I bet your kids will ask you in 20 years when the earth is one big desert:

" Why the hell didn't you do anything daddy? I want to see snow! "


Edit: removed  "Dumb" It was a bit harsh and i'm sorry if i offended you usmarine 2005.

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dayarath wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Well something melted them before we were here also.

True, but it isn't supposed to happen now, since we are now in interglaciar period.  The last glaciation was about 10,000 years ago, so the next glaciation should take place in about 50,000 to 90,000 years.  What you can expect every 10,000 years are minor glaciations, and maybe we are in the beginning of one of those.

That is true also but there are fluctuations in between temperatures inbetween those 10.000 years aswell. For example in the roman period Britain probably had the climate of france, they thought it was an excellent place to grow wine grapes.

Look, the climate isn't maths, so you can't predict exactly the changes it will have.  I think global warming is taking place, as it did before we were here.  The thing is we contributed to increase this natural process, and that is fact.  My point is don't think there's no global warming because the winter is colder in many places.  It has to do with the ocean streams being switched off by the ice melting because of the global warming.

sergeriver wrote:

dayarath wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

True, but it isn't supposed to happen now, since we are now in interglaciar period.  The last glaciation was about 10,000 years ago, so the next glaciation should take place in about 50,000 to 90,000 years.  What you can expect every 10,000 years are minor glaciations, and maybe we are in the beginning of one of those.

That is true also but there are fluctuations in between temperatures inbetween those 10.000 years aswell. For example in the roman period Britain probably had the climate of france, they thought it was an excellent place to grow wine grapes.

Look, the climate isn't maths, so you can't predict exactly the changes it will have.  I think global warming is taking place, as it did before we were here.  The thing is we contributed to increase this natural process, and that is fact.  My point is don't think there's no global warming because the winter is colder in many places.  It has to do with the ocean streams being switched off by the ice melting because of the global warming.

Problem is we don't know what our involvement in the enviroment has done exactly. That in a period like that britain was good for growing wine grapes indicates there might be just more to it than our CO2 / Methane production. There are a zillion of factors you have to keep in mind when thinking of global warming, yes it's like maths.

We can keep debating wether it's global warming or enhanced global warming, by human effect but that doesn't get us anywhere. That we're trying to get to more cleaner ways of driving cars etc is good and all don't get me wrong, but if we could fix this problem by the root at once it would be a lot easier. For all we know it'll just keep getting warmer if we're all driving on biofuel anyway, that'd be troublesome.