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2008-01-22 18:14:24
Spark
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lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Cam, I stopped reading your shit when I reached "Islam is a peaceful religion".
Oblivious to reality as ever. Keep living in the fantasy land where the actions of 1% of a particular group of people should dictate your opinion on 100% of that group. We'll be pragmatic, reasonable and realistic instead.
LOL..."Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion"................yeah you do that.

It is so very funny how "1%" can turn a world on its ass ain't it? Is there any other "1%" that can have such an impact on global affairs?? Equally amusing is how the other "99%" can not do anything about it. Less sit back and watch.
Pop quiz: Which was the first religion to ban racism?

Don't make assumptions about things you obviously have no clue about. What do you know about Islam?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2008-01-22 18:14:52
=OBS= EstebanRey
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lowing wrote:

Sure thing, as soon as you prove me wrong, just as soon as you prove Islam is a peaceful tolerant religion that GB is not trying to appease by its use of PC. You arrogant asses need to do better than to simply tell me "I am wrong just admit it".. Fuck, Cam is now spouting off about how peaceful and tolerant Islam is....and how I do not live in the realms of reality because I do not believe it...You gotta be kiddin' me!!!!!
lowing you whole argument now is based purely on prejudice and you know it.  Blaming 22% of the world's population (Muslims) for the actions of not even 0.01%.  With that logic, I am free to assume ALL Americans are fat and stupid
2008-01-22 18:15:25
lowing
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Gadhafi gave his assurance that Muslims don't need "the sword or the bomb to spread Islam," and expected Europe to become Muslim with a few dozen years. He proved this by pointing to the presence of 50 million Muslims, 14,000 thousand mosques and Islamic centers, and 1,500 Islamic organizations and associations in Europe, in addition to Turkey, Bosnia and Albania joining the European Union.

He considered that "Europe and America face difficult times … as time passes they can either accept that they will become Muslim, or they must proclaim war on Muslims."


Taken from http://www.watchingamerica.com/alwatankw000002.shtml


your denial wil be your downfall.
2008-01-22 18:19:55
=OBS= EstebanRey
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lowing wrote:

Gadhafi gave his assurance that Muslims don't need "the sword or the bomb to spread Islam," and expected Europe to become Muslim with a few dozen years. He proved this by pointing to the presence of 50 million Muslims, 14,000 thousand mosques and Islamic centers, and 1,500 Islamic organizations and associations in Europe, in addition to Turkey, Bosnia and Albania joining the European Union.

He considered that "Europe and America face difficult times … as time passes they can either accept that they will become Muslim, or they must proclaim war on Muslims."


Taken from http://www.watchingamerica.com/alwatankw000002.shtml


your denial wil be your downfall.
He also said Libya had nothing to do with Lockerby, you really need to start taking your advice from someone with a better track record mate.

P.S. I find it funny that you listen to Muslims spewing hate but seem to be deaf (or ignorant towards) to the ones preaching peace.
2008-01-22 18:22:05
Spark
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lowing wrote:

Gadhafi gave his assurance that Muslims don't need "the sword or the bomb to spread Islam," and expected Europe to become Muslim with a few dozen years. He proved this by pointing to the presence of 50 million Muslims, 14,000 thousand mosques and Islamic centers, and 1,500 Islamic organizations and associations in Europe, in addition to Turkey, Bosnia and Albania joining the European Union.

He considered that "Europe and America face difficult times … as time passes they can either accept that they will become Muslim, or they must proclaim war on Muslims."


Taken from http://www.watchingamerica.com/alwatankw000002.shtml


your denial wil be your downfall.
You actually think that HE speaks for 1.2 billion Muslims?

You're more fucked in the head than I thought.

Have you ever met a Muslim?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2008-01-22 18:37:52
PureFodder
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Gadhafi speaks for all Muslims in the same way that McCarthy speaks for all Americans.
2008-01-22 18:47:41
lowing
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=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Oblivious to reality as ever. Keep living in the fantasy land where the actions of 1% of a particular group of people should dictate your opinion on 100% of that group. We'll be pragmatic, reasonable and realistic instead.
LOL..."Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion"................yeah you do that.

It is so very funny how "1%" can turn a world on its ass ain't it? Is there any other "1%" that can have such an impact on global affairs?? Equally amusing is how the other "99%" can not do anything about it. Less sit back and watch.
That's right lowing, Islam isn't actually a religion buut one big club where everyone knows each other and what they've got planned.  In fact, it's a well known fact that every Muslim has a hotline to Osama and anyone of them could call him up right now and tell him to stop this whole jihad stuff.

lowing, you really are a dumbass....
and after the insults, you do not explain why or how 1% can kick the shit out of 99% andtake their so called peace loving religion.
2008-01-22 18:52:54
lowing
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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Oblivious to reality as ever. Keep living in the fantasy land where the actions of 1% of a particular group of people should dictate your opinion on 100% of that group. We'll be pragmatic, reasonable and realistic instead.
LOL..."Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion"................yeah you do that.

It is so very funny how "1%" can turn a world on its ass ain't it? Is there any other "1%" that can have such an impact on global affairs?? Equally amusing is how the other "99%" can not do anything about it. Less sit back and watch.
Pop quiz: Which was the first religion to ban racism?

Don't make assumptions about things you obviously have no clue about. What do you know about Islam?
........as if I can not read, see, or hear........gimme a break.

What was the first religion to fly airplanes into a fuckin building, or blow up a subway, or a train or 2 embassies, or cut heads of on youtube, or throw a woman in prison for getting raped, or comit violence and murder over being called violent and murderous, or shoot children in an elementary school or use women and children as human shields etc......... how many guesses do you need?
2008-01-22 18:57:06
lowing
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=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

lowing wrote:

Gadhafi gave his assurance that Muslims don't need "the sword or the bomb to spread Islam," and expected Europe to become Muslim with a few dozen years. He proved this by pointing to the presence of 50 million Muslims, 14,000 thousand mosques and Islamic centers, and 1,500 Islamic organizations and associations in Europe, in addition to Turkey, Bosnia and Albania joining the European Union.

He considered that "Europe and America face difficult times … as time passes they can either accept that they will become Muslim, or they must proclaim war on Muslims."


Taken from http://www.watchingamerica.com/alwatankw000002.shtml


your denial wil be your downfall.
He also said Libya had nothing to do with Lockerby, you really need to start taking your advice from someone with a better track record mate.

P.S. I find it funny that you listen to Muslims spewing hate but seem to be deaf (or ignorant towards) to the ones preaching peace.
well holy shit, ya mean there is a muslim leader out there publicly speaking for peace and tolerance toward the west AND denounces radicalism and are getting muslim support? quick without a google search.........name him because I sincerely have no idea
2008-01-22 19:00:38
lowing
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PureFodder wrote:

Gadhafi speaks for all Muslims in the same way that McCarthy speaks for all Americans.
Thaty would be fantastic but are you willing to tell me that it is ONLY Gadhafi that speaks like this??? DO I really really need to add more to the list with more quotes from other Islamic leaders?? DO I really need to do that? Or are you willing to concede right now that it isn't ONLY Gadhafi that talks of such things?
2008-01-22 19:06:17
paranoid101
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Congratulation's Lowing its up to 26 pages of going round in circles, still fair play to you sir, I really didn't expect it to go on this long lol
2008-01-22 19:17:54
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:


LOL..."Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion"................yeah you do that.

It is so very funny how "1%" can turn a world on its ass ain't it? Is there any other "1%" that can have such an impact on global affairs?? Equally amusing is how the other "99%" can not do anything about it. Less sit back and watch.
Pop quiz: Which was the first religion to ban racism?

Don't make assumptions about things you obviously have no clue about. What do you know about Islam?
........as if I can not read, see, or hear........gimme a break.

What was the first religion to fly airplanes into a fuckin building, or blow up a subway, or a train or 2 embassies, or cut heads of on youtube, or throw a woman in prison for getting raped, or comit violence and murder over being called violent and murderous, or shoot children in an elementary school or use women and children as human shields etc......... how many guesses do you need?
Probably Christianity TBH.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2008-01-22 19:25:14
paranoid101
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FatherTed wrote:

26 pages of lowing being a dumbass.

Congrats.
No he isn't, he's just sticking to his guns, his mind is made up and be it right or wrong nobody on here will change it.

Might as well just post you view of the thread topic and be done with it, you have as much chance of changing lowing mind as he has of ours E.G None.

Last edited by paranoid101 (2008-01-22 19:25:47)

2008-01-22 20:02:15
=OBS= EstebanRey
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lowing wrote:

and after the insults, you do not explain why or how 1% can kick the shit out of 99% andtake their so called peace loving religion.
I know plenty of Muslims that haven't been "kicked the shit out of", you may want to revise that sentence....
2008-01-22 20:05:00
=OBS= EstebanRey
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This argument reminds me of this

P.S lowing you're the taxi driver and homosexuality is Islam OK?  Sorry, but I got the feeling your brain might not understand the complex nature of a metaphor.....

Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2008-01-22 20:05:30)

2008-01-22 20:07:57
lowing
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=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sure thing, as soon as you prove me wrong, just as soon as you prove Islam is a peaceful tolerant religion that GB is not trying to appease by its use of PC. You arrogant asses need to do better than to simply tell me "I am wrong just admit it".. Fuck, Cam is now spouting off about how peaceful and tolerant Islam is....and how I do not live in the realms of reality because I do not believe it...You gotta be kiddin' me!!!!!
lowing you whole argument now is based purely on prejudice and you know it.  Blaming 22% of the world's population (Muslims) for the actions of not even 0.01%.  With that logic, I am free to assume ALL Americans are fat and stupid
Speaking factually does not make me prejudice. There is nothing in my post that untrue. Istead of making such claims, prove me wrong, prove to me that Islam is full of peace and tolerance through their laws and their teachings, please remember, you gotta include those in the ME. Not just your home town, since, after all, we are talking about the majority.
2008-01-22 20:10:56
=OBS= EstebanRey
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lowng 1 question, are you a WUM?
2008-01-22 20:15:43
lowing
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=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

lowng 1 question, are you a WUM?
Try answering my challenge and stop stalling
2008-01-22 20:37:56
lowing
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Lets see if the Netherlands appease Islam next.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=39 … =351020101

Of course I suppose to stiffle free speech would be a "smart move" and not appeasement. Hm, I wonder why stiffling this free speech would even be considered..Any guesses??
2008-01-22 20:41:23
lowing
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=39 … =351020101


well since you will not ( can not) acknowledge the truth, let me just add this tidbit.
2008-01-22 20:47:47
lowing
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I will be here waiting for your proof that Islam is peaceful and tolerant, and not oppressive, including in the majority of the ME culture as you all claim.

Oh and don't forget to prove your claim that Gadahfi's words are isolated to himself and not a wide spread sentiment amongst other Muslim leaders
2008-01-22 20:50:05
lowing
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usmarine2005 wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

lowing, you really are a dumbass....
no no Cam, let me.

That is against forum rules.
Actually I don't mind, when this happens I view it as filler to a lack of a real argument.
2008-01-22 21:15:18
Stingray24
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Wow, round 26 and lowing is still taking all.   *plays Rocky theme*
2008-01-22 21:53:49
lowing
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Stingray24 wrote:

Wow, round 26 and lowing is still taking all.   *plays Rocky theme*
This same shit happened when  they all decided to break down and just call me a racist. They scatter like roaches to the woodwork when exposed.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=89452&p=6


This thread was hot and heavy right up to the point where I asked them to prove Islam was a peaceful tolerant, and unoppressive religion especially in the MAJORITY ME. Well, they all respond by calling me dumbass or various other names then run. I also ask them to prove to me that my post about Libya was indeed an isolated sentiment reserved only to Gadahfi as insinuated, and again it is ignored and they call me names then leave. Figures huh?

I swear if I had a heart or feelings, they coulda been hurt.

Last edited by lowing (2008-01-22 23:09:40)

2008-01-22 22:34:10
Marconius
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*whistles and walks in*

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic … 87,00.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 … mage_x.htm

Most of the radicals base their hatred and actions around the poverty forced upon them due to the constant warring in their tribal regions.  They'll tie all of the events to prose from the Qu'ran, and naturally impoverished people who are looking for answers won't know any better and will just sign on up.  This is actually shown fairly well in the movie Syriana.  Islam can be oppressive if the ruling clerics decide to enforce radical dogma on the believers in their region; people can be swayed in many different ways when it comes down to the root level of their faith.  The ultimate idea of Islam, though, is that of peace.

 

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