i am in the airforce. it really depends on your personal preference. navy, chances are you might be on a ship for at least 6months at a time, or not. or you could be airforce, and stay cushy at you're base (except for deployments). but everybody makes fun of airforce people because we live like kings compared to the marines or the army (which i have no problem with). you're choice really.
That is true about the Air force living like kings if you compare their living quarters and food to the Marines. However, it depends on what you idea of living like a king is. I found nothing more gratifying then spending days and days in the field, sleeping on dirt or sand, eating MRE's, and taking baby wipe showers. There is nothing better then having a drinking contest with some of the finest men on this earth, The Royal Marines. If you want a recliner and a big screen TV every night after work, then join the Air Force. If you want to be on patrol for eight hours starting at 10pm, after getting two hours sleep, then join the Suck.CBRacky wrote:
i am in the airforce. it really depends on your personal preference. navy, chances are you might be on a ship for at least 6months at a time, or not. or you could be airforce, and stay cushy at you're base (except for deployments). but everybody makes fun of airforce people because we live like kings compared to the marines or the army (which i have no problem with). you're choice really.
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eh, so I typed a instead of the. You knew what I meant............... :rolleyesAegis wrote:
No.. you're really wrong. The Marines are in The Department of the Navy. They have their own chain of command and their own representative on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.gsxrpilot wrote:
Wrong.Once again, no. The Marines are an independent service that works closely with the Navy.
The Marine Corps is a department of the Navy.
Semper Fi
Semper Fi - you're a fucking Marine and you don't know this?
I've got a joke for you, then:
Q: What's the difference between a sailor and a Marine?
A: About 50 points on the ASVAB
Jeez....kids these days. Do their parents not know they spend so much time on the internet???
Yeah, I'm a "Fucking Marine", and I'll tell you something. I don't care who is/was in charge, who runs what, what department does what.......all I cared about was killin motherfuckers. That's it.
I'm a combat vet, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna be made to look the fool by some 19 year old punk who's still shittin 4th phase chow and hasn't seen a real set of tits besides his mama's. Run along little boy.......before you get dealt with.........
IF YOU WANT TO FLY DO NOT ENLIST IN ANY SERVEICE..... GO TO COLLEGE!!!! I ALREADY MADE THIS MISTAKE AND JOINED THE NAVY. and the prgram i am in (Nuclear Operator) many people get picked up for officer.. but mostly only Nuke officers... flight program is very very hard to get into.... i wish you the best of luck
@gsxrpilot: Actually, you make yourself look more like a 19 year old punk whos never seen a tit other than his mothers by making posts like that. Seriously, "Run along little boy.......before you get dealt with........."?
LOL They managed to sucker you in to nuke huh? They tried that with me back in the day as well. Means big bonus points to recruiters. But, look on the bright side, you'll get great job offers from civilian companies when you're time in service is almost up.CrazyCobra wrote:
IF YOU WANT TO FLY DO NOT ENLIST IN ANY SERVEICE..... GO TO COLLEGE!!!! I ALREADY MADE THIS MISTAKE AND JOINED THE NAVY. and the prgram i am in (Nuclear Operator) many people get picked up for officer.. but mostly only Nuke officers... flight program is very very hard to get into.... i wish you the best of luck
word. don't get me wrong, i spent 2 years in the mud with GTACS, and i wouldn't mind going back. but sometimes, after working 12h+ on the flightline (and working with the finest mechanics/soldiers on earth) it's nice to go back to the recliner and bit screen tv'susmarine2005 wrote:
That is true about the Air force living like kings if you compare their living quarters and food to the Marines. However, it depends on what you idea of living like a king is. I found nothing more gratifying then spending days and days in the field, sleeping on dirt or sand, eating MRE's, and taking baby wipe showers. There is nothing better then having a drinking contest with some of the finest men on this earth, The Royal Marines. If you want a recliner and a big screen TV every night after work, then join the Air Force. If you want to be on patrol for eight hours starting at 10pm, after getting two hours sleep, then join the Suck.CBRacky wrote:
i am in the airforce. it really depends on your personal preference. navy, chances are you might be on a ship for at least 6months at a time, or not. or you could be airforce, and stay cushy at you're base (except for deployments). but everybody makes fun of airforce people because we live like kings compared to the marines or the army (which i have no problem with). you're choice really.
He's just bein' a classic Marine...Skruples wrote:
@gsxrpilot: Actually, you make yourself look more like a 19 year old punk whos never seen a tit other than his mothers by making posts like that. Seriously, "Run along little boy.......before you get dealt with........."?
No longer true. Navy is debuting a warrant officer flying program.CrazyCobra wrote:
IF YOU WANT TO FLY DO NOT ENLIST IN ANY SERVEICE..... GO TO COLLEGE!!!! I ALREADY MADE THIS MISTAKE AND JOINED THE NAVY
Going nuke myself, but not on the blueshirt side of the house.
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It goes like this:
Marines/Navy
Army/Airforce
Marines is a subdivision of the Navy, and the Airforce is a subdivision of the Army.
Marines/Navy
Army/Airforce
Marines is a subdivision of the Navy, and the Airforce is a subdivision of the Army.
Nope, the Air Force flies the bulk of the fighter inventory in the United States' armed forces. The Navy flies the F-14 and the F/A-18 while the Air Force flies the F-15, F-16, and the F-22. Not counting the F-117 which is a bomber and carries no offensive air-to-air weapons. In fact, there are more F-16s flying alone than the total number of Navy fighter aircraft.CrazyCobra wrote:
F-18 super hornets and F-14b Tomcats..... but tomcats are being decommissioned
Air force DOES NOT fly off of carriers... and the Navy has more fighter aircraft than the Air Force
There are 220 F-14s in the inventory and 545 F/A 18s in both the Navy and Marine inventory. If you wish to include the EA-6B which is also a tanker and EW Jammer platform you may add another 124 aircraft. The Air Force flies 782 F-16s, 613 F-15s, and the F-22 squadron at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia, has reached IOC which means thay can deploy with at least 20 aircraft. Of course, if you add the 215 A-10s flown by the Air Force it only makes the numbers more in favor of America's main air service.
Sorry slick, there are three independent military branches since September 18, 1947. They are the United States Air Force, United States Army, and the United States Navy. The marines are a subset of the Navy. Each military service receives roughly a third of the military budget each yearjnick wrote:
It goes like this:
Marines/Navy
Army/Airforce
Marines is a subdivision of the Navy, and the Airforce is a subdivision of the Army.
The Army fllies most of their choppers with Warrant Officers, not commissioned officers.Aegis wrote:
He's just bein' a classic Marine...Skruples wrote:
@gsxrpilot: Actually, you make yourself look more like a 19 year old punk whos never seen a tit other than his mothers by making posts like that. Seriously, "Run along little boy.......before you get dealt with........."?No longer true. Navy is debuting a warrant officer flying program.CrazyCobra wrote:
IF YOU WANT TO FLY DO NOT ENLIST IN ANY SERVEICE..... GO TO COLLEGE!!!! I ALREADY MADE THIS MISTAKE AND JOINED THE NAVY
Going nuke myself, but not on the blueshirt side of the house.
Did you forget something? Like the fact that the Tomcat is no longer in active service? And that there's about 1048 F/A-18's in our inventory?KillerAFET wrote:
The Navy flies the F-14 and the F/A-18...There are 220 F-14s in the inventory and 545 F/A 18s in both the Navy and Marine inventory.
You're completely wrong. What is your contact with the military, the History channel?KillerAFET wrote:
Sorry slick, there are three independent military branches since September 18, 1947. They are the United States Air Force, United States Army, and the United States Navy. The marines are a subset of the Navy. Each military service receives roughly a third of the military budget each year
There are four seperate branches, end of story.
Wrong, once again. Warrant officers are commissioned officers.KillerAFET wrote:
The Army fllies most of their choppers with Warrant Officers, not commissioned officers.
W-1's receive their warrant from their service secretary, and then receive their commission from the President upon promotion to chief warrant officer - W-2 through W-5.
If you don't know what you're talking about, why continue speaking?
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Dude! You are kind of wrong here. The Marine Corps does fall under the department of the Navy. It may be an autonomous branch but again, it does fall under the umberlla of the navy.Aegis wrote:
Did you forget something? Like the fact that the Tomcat is no longer in active service? And that there's about 1048 F/A-18's in our inventory?KillerAFET wrote:
The Navy flies the F-14 and the F/A-18...There are 220 F-14s in the inventory and 545 F/A 18s in both the Navy and Marine inventory.You're completely wrong. What is your contact with the military, the History channel?KillerAFET wrote:
Sorry slick, there are three independent military branches since September 18, 1947. They are the United States Air Force, United States Army, and the United States Navy. The marines are a subset of the Navy. Each military service receives roughly a third of the military budget each year
There are four seperate branches, end of story.Wrong, once again. Warrant officers are commissioned officers.KillerAFET wrote:
The Army fllies most of their choppers with Warrant Officers, not commissioned officers.
W-1's receive their warrant from their service secretary, and then receive their commission from the President upon promotion to chief warrant officer - W-2 through W-5.
If you don't know what you're talking about, why continue speaking?
100% correct on the warrant thing though. I didn't call a warant sir once and he chewed me out pretty bad.
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Negative. The Marshals Service and the FBI are both a part of the Department of Justice... this doesn't make one the same as the other or one part of the other.wavecutter wrote:
Dude! You are kind of wrong here. The Marine Corps does fall under the department of the Navy. It may be an autonomous branch but again, it does fall under the umberlla of the navy.
To recap why anyone who says this is wrong:
-The Marine chain of command is wholly seperate from the Navy chain. Each service has an equally ranked 4-star, and they both report to the same service secretary. In no way shape or form does the Marine upper staff report to the Navy staff other than at combatant commands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Marine_CorpsWikipedia.org wrote:
The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the U.S. military. While concerned almost exclusively with shipboard security service and amphibious warfare in its formative years, the Marine Corps has evolved to fill a unique, multi-purpose role within the modern United States military.
The Marine Corps is the second smallest of the five branches (Navy, Marine Corps, Army, Air Force, Coast Guard).
Wow...you all really know how to get off topic. The kid just wants to know where to go to fly!
I was part of the 3rd MAW stationed at the now closed MCAS Tustin and worked on CH-53E helicopters - Go Heavy Haulers (HMH -462). I talked with lots of pilots and this is what they had to say...
First go to school and get your degee. No comission, no piloting. You can become aircrew, but that's not really flying is it?
Second, make sure you're in tip top shape. I couldn't even go aircrew because of limitations I have with depth perception. If you have anything less that 20/20, you ain't flying jets. You'll be lucky to fly helos.
Third, what do you want to fly? Marines don't just fly off carriers...as a matter of fact, there aren't many that do. An LHA or similar craft, like the Wasp is a mini carrier for VTOL and helos. These are cool! I was stationed on the Pelelieu during the Somalian embassy evac and we had 53's, 46's, Huey's, Blackhawks, Cobra's and Harriers.
This is your best shot at flying from a sea craft if you go Marines. Otherwise go Navy. Your just looking to be made fun of if you join any other service
I was part of the 3rd MAW stationed at the now closed MCAS Tustin and worked on CH-53E helicopters - Go Heavy Haulers (HMH -462). I talked with lots of pilots and this is what they had to say...
First go to school and get your degee. No comission, no piloting. You can become aircrew, but that's not really flying is it?
Second, make sure you're in tip top shape. I couldn't even go aircrew because of limitations I have with depth perception. If you have anything less that 20/20, you ain't flying jets. You'll be lucky to fly helos.
Third, what do you want to fly? Marines don't just fly off carriers...as a matter of fact, there aren't many that do. An LHA or similar craft, like the Wasp is a mini carrier for VTOL and helos. These are cool! I was stationed on the Pelelieu during the Somalian embassy evac and we had 53's, 46's, Huey's, Blackhawks, Cobra's and Harriers.
This is your best shot at flying from a sea craft if you go Marines. Otherwise go Navy. Your just looking to be made fun of if you join any other service
Whaaaaaaatsgt_mango333 wrote:
Second, make sure you're in tip top shape. I couldn't even go aircrew because of limitations I have with depth perception. If you have anything less that 20/20, you ain't flying jets. You'll be lucky to fly helos.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo there goes my dream...
I have bad eyes, I thought I could pilot with contacts.... *sniff*....
Ok lets move onto other dreams: How do delta force recruit?
Then I'm going to have to thank all my senior enlisted leaders for that particular training failure.Aegis wrote:
Negative. The Marshals Service and the FBI are both a part of the Department of Justice... this doesn't make one the same as the other or one part of the other.wavecutter wrote:
Dude! You are kind of wrong here. The Marine Corps does fall under the department of the Navy. It may be an autonomous branch but again, it does fall under the umberlla of the navy.
To recap why anyone who says this is wrong:
-The Marine chain of command is wholly seperate from the Navy chain. Each service has an equally ranked 4-star, and they both report to the same service secretary. In no way shape or form does the Marine upper staff report to the Navy staff other than at combatant commands.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Marine_CorpsWikipedia.org wrote:
The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the U.S. military. While concerned almost exclusively with shipboard security service and amphibious warfare in its formative years, the Marine Corps has evolved to fill a unique, multi-purpose role within the modern United States military.
The Marine Corps is the second smallest of the five branches (Navy, Marine Corps, Army, Air Force, Coast Guard).
as per http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usmc/overview.htm
The Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy , is organized as a general purpose “force in readiness” to support national needs. Deploying for combat as combined-arms Marine air-ground task forces (MAGTFs), the Marine Corps provides the National Command Authorities (NCA) with a responsive force that can conduct operations across the spectrum of conflict.
Two parallel chains of command -— Service and operational -— exist within the Marine Corps. The Service chain begins with the President, through the Secretary of Defense, and continues through the Secretary of the Navy and the Commandant of the Marine Corps. The operational chain runs from the President, through the Secretary of Defense, directly to commanders of combatant commands for missions and forces assigned to their commands.
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Correctable 20/20 i beleive.-]Eucalyptus[- wrote:
Whaaaaaaatsgt_mango333 wrote:
Second, make sure you're in tip top shape. I couldn't even go aircrew because of limitations I have with depth perception. If you have anything less that 20/20, you ain't flying jets. You'll be lucky to fly helos.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo there goes my dream...
I have bad eyes, I thought I could pilot with contacts.... *sniff*....
Ok lets move onto other dreams: How do delta force recruit?
if you want to be a pilot start taking flying lessons in smaller planes...-]Eucalyptus[- wrote:
Thank you Husker~ifh~ and the others.
After college I plan to join the Navy or USMC to be a pilot.
Either that or I can take this CIA scholarship thing that I qualify for...
in taht way you have more axperience and more chance to get tested to be a fighter pilot ..
the second thing: you shpuld ask yourself how you react under stress
because fighter pilots are moron maniacs who dont see risks that normal ppl do see
are you that maniac join the army
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WTF is "macia"?kn0ckahh wrote:
if you want to be a pilot start taking flying lessons in smaller planes...-]Eucalyptus[- wrote:
Thank you Husker~ifh~ and the others.
After college I plan to join the Navy or USMC to be a pilot.
Either that or I can take this CIA scholarship thing that I qualify for...
in taht way you have more axperience and more chance to get tested to be a fighter pilot ..
the second thing: you shpuld ask yourself how you react under stress
because fighter pilots are moron maniacs who dont see risks that normal ppl do see
are you that macia join the army
*EDIT* I see you corrected your post to read "maniac" (P.S. your grammer is still fucked but at least I understand it now )
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Ever thought about going to one of the academies? Like the Navy Academy in Annapolis?
Don't you die on me dammit! DON'T YOU DIE THREAD! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
*shudders*acurasquirrel wrote:
Ever thought about going to one of the academies? Like the Navy Academy in Annapolis?
You enjoy, that. Really. Have a nice life!
Only on helos and you can't wear contacts. Contacts become a hazard if they slip or get something underneath them. And if you ever have to approach a helo that's spinning the rotor wash can casue the contact to cut the eyeball.usmarine2005 wrote:
Correctable 20/20 i beleive.-]Eucalyptus[- wrote:
Whaaaaaaatsgt_mango333 wrote:
Second, make sure you're in tip top shape. I couldn't even go aircrew because of limitations I have with depth perception. If you have anything less that 20/20, you ain't flying jets. You'll be lucky to fly helos.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo there goes my dream...
I have bad eyes, I thought I could pilot with contacts.... *sniff*....
Ok lets move onto other dreams: How do delta force recruit?
Sorry Eucy...the only corrections allowed are BC's