BF2S Forums Muslims Pissed Caused by Danish Cartoons and other things for a debate

My take on the whole issue is that the cartoons were offensive to begin with. Generalizing muslims as terrorists doesnt help. If you have the balls to offend an entire religion, you better have the cojones to face the consequences.

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to freely insult someone and not expect a retaliation. There is nothing courageous about using your freedom of speech to ridicule the beliefs of one of the weakest sections of your society.

And no, Im not a muslim, Im a Christian who have my own beliefs. But in the end, my faith has taught me one thing that is most important for all of us. To have compassion for our fellow men, regardless of faith. To be sensitive enough to know when they are insulted or not.

Besides what do the cartoons purpose serve anyway? Sure you have the freedom to print something like that out, but in the end, its up to you if you want to offend or not. Can you really blame the muslims if they get offended? Although I agree that the protests and violence are too much, but still. It was their own fault for publishing the offensive toons anyway. If they didn't the world would be a more peaceful place than it is now, would it?

Last edited by s4vior6 (2006-02-09 11:44:26)

s4vior6 wrote:

My take on the whole issue is that the cartoons were offensive to begin with.

Probably.  Still, it's satire, if it isn't offending somebody, it's not very good satire.

s4vior6 wrote:

Generalizing muslims as terrorists doesnt help.

They sure do make it easy with the way they react though.  Don't they?

s4vior6 wrote:

If you have the balls to offend an entire religion, you better have the cojones to face the consequences.

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to freely insult someone and not expect a retaliation. There is nothing courageous about using your freedom of speech to ridicule the beliefs of one of the weakest sections of your society.

Satire has been used to critisize and insult just about anything you care to name.  It is a familiar, common, and, I think, vital tool in commenting on the world around us.  The upshot of (some of) those cartoons is, "Gee, those Muslims are pretty violent, aren't they?  Damned if they didn't go and say, "We sure are."

Should the cartoonists have expected a reaction?  Absolutely.  And I would say the right of Muslims to protest in any non-violent manner should be protected just as much as the cartoonists right to draw the cartoons in the first place.

Unfortunately, many Muslims did not limit themselves to peaceful protests, and that is unacceptable.  The cartoons in question did not cause physical harm to anyone.  They did not limit or remove anyone's ability to make a living or keep a home.  The protestors took the problem from the realm of the intellect to the realm of the physical.  THIS WAS AN ESCALATION INTO THE REALM OF FORCE.  That was unacceptable.

s4vior6 wrote:

Besides what do the cartoons purpose serve anyway? Sure you have the freedom to print something like that out, but in the end, its up to you if you want to offend or not.

Satire, as I noted above.  It is as old as the human race.

s4vior6 wrote:

Can you really blame the muslims if they get offended?

They can get as offended as they wish.  They have no right to harm anyone or anything.

Whatever, just nuke the lot

That's it. When this guy is dealt with it might be opened back up, but not until then.