mUSTARDo
Member
+0|6316
I have a macbook Intel2coreduo2gig cpu and Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family graphics card... can't play BF2 at all. Black screen flashes upon open. Is there anyone out there who may be able to assist or direct me to a patch location for BF2 non-supported graphics cards.

I don't know why a game would only be supported by certain cards... could it be the makers of BF2 are colluding with the card manufacturers?

What do you think?

Mustardo rides!
mUSTARDo
Member
+0|6316
Sorry, should've mentioned i am running XP using Bootcamp - an excellent free Mac app.
Cheers
Mustardo rides again!
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6792|SE London

JaMrulezass wrote:

Does mac sux because you hafta buy special "games for mac"?
No Macs suck because they use special low grade overpriced proprietary hardware that is completely shite. The build quality is exceedingly low and hardware repairs are very expensive, they also have much lower hardware reliability than PCs (about 10% of Mac components are DOA) due to the parts being manufactured primarily in China - rather than Taiwan, where the good stuff gets made. Mac logic board design is appalling and anyone buying a Mac should be well aware of how atrociously bad the hardware in Macs actually is.
The_Sniper_NM
Official EVGA Fanboy
+94|6324|SC | USA |

mUSTARDo wrote:

I have a macbook Intel2coreduo2gig cpu and Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family graphics card... can't play BF2 at all. Black screen flashes upon open. Is there anyone out there who may be able to assist or direct me to a patch location for BF2 non-supported graphics cards.

I don't know why a game would only be supported by certain cards... could it be the makers of BF2 are colluding with the card manufacturers?

What do you think?

Mustardo rides!
The flash to desktop is a graphics problem. BF2 will not even run on integrated graphics, I'm afraid you're out of luck.
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6870|The darkside of Denver
Vista 64 bit support for Itunes?  Just got a new ipod touch and cannot use it becuase i keep getting told to download the 64bit version of itunes but cannot find it.
Marlboroman82
Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.
+1,022|6833|Camp XRay

Bertster7 wrote:

JaMrulezass wrote:

Does mac sux because you hafta buy special "games for mac"?
No Macs suck because they use special low grade overpriced proprietary hardware that is completely shite. The build quality is exceedingly low and hardware repairs are very expensive, they also have much lower hardware reliability than PCs (about 10% of Mac components are DOA) due to the parts being manufactured primarily in China - rather than Taiwan, where the good stuff gets made. Mac logic board design is appalling and anyone buying a Mac should be well aware of how atrociously bad the hardware in Macs actually is.
Can you post some links to back your claims. I will be the first to admit the logic boards on older ibooks were not very well designed. I had one fail on me, but Apple replaced it quickly and bumped my hard drive up 20 gbs.

Also how can you claim the build quality is low when ever review glows about how polished the build is on a every mac?

Also apple contracts with many different suppliers for their parts. They do not build every part of the computer, and I don't believe every part comes from China.

Please present some proof before you make absurd claims.
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Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6792|SE London

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

JaMrulezass wrote:

Does mac sux because you hafta buy special "games for mac"?
No Macs suck because they use special low grade overpriced proprietary hardware that is completely shite. The build quality is exceedingly low and hardware repairs are very expensive, they also have much lower hardware reliability than PCs (about 10% of Mac components are DOA) due to the parts being manufactured primarily in China - rather than Taiwan, where the good stuff gets made. Mac logic board design is appalling and anyone buying a Mac should be well aware of how atrociously bad the hardware in Macs actually is.
Can you post some links to back your claims. I will be the first to admit the logic boards on older ibooks were not very well designed. I had one fail on me, but Apple replaced it quickly and bumped my hard drive up 20 gbs.

Also how can you claim the build quality is low when ever review glows about how polished the build is on a every mac?

Also apple contracts with many different suppliers for their parts. They do not build every part of the computer, and I don't believe every part comes from China.

Please present some proof before you make absurd claims.
I work for Apple (well the UK APP partner, we do all APP returns, all Apple ER returns, all DOAs and most warranty returns for Apple in the UK and are also the UK's leading Apple training provider). I spend a heck of a lot of my time at work ordering Apple parts, all of which have either made in China or Indonesia on the boxes - as I'm writing this from home I can see a 661-3280 (part number for an eMac logic board) and a 661-4211 (MacBook LCD panel - I think, can't be bothered to go on GSX and check, it's not a part number I'm familiar with).

You speak of Apple replacing your logic board quickly, that's basically what my job is - Apple outsource their returns. I see the numbers of machines that come in. I also see the number of parts that are DOA, which is close to 10% of them - demonstrating appalling quality. You are right that Apple use various suppliers for the different parts, but from the quality of the parts it seems they pick whoever will do it cheapest.

I'm an ACMT working at the 3rd largest Apple returns centre in Europe. I see a lot of Apple parts and am ideally placed to get a great idea of what the quality and reliability of the parts is.

The polished build quality you refer to is the chassis build. That's it. Shoddy parts in high quality casing (that is often a complete bitch to get open properly - the number of tools you need is absurd).

I wouldn't say they're absurd claims at all. I'm simply stating the facts. The facts that deluded Macheads seem completely ignorant of.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6947

Bertster7 wrote:

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


No Macs suck because they use special low grade overpriced proprietary hardware that is completely shite. The build quality is exceedingly low and hardware repairs are very expensive, they also have much lower hardware reliability than PCs (about 10% of Mac components are DOA) due to the parts being manufactured primarily in China - rather than Taiwan, where the good stuff gets made. Mac logic board design is appalling and anyone buying a Mac should be well aware of how atrociously bad the hardware in Macs actually is.
Can you post some links to back your claims. I will be the first to admit the logic boards on older ibooks were not very well designed. I had one fail on me, but Apple replaced it quickly and bumped my hard drive up 20 gbs.

Also how can you claim the build quality is low when ever review glows about how polished the build is on a every mac?

Also apple contracts with many different suppliers for their parts. They do not build every part of the computer, and I don't believe every part comes from China.

Please present some proof before you make absurd claims.
I work for Apple (well the UK APP partner, we do all APP returns, all Apple ER returns, all DOAs and most warranty returns for Apple in the UK and are also the UK's leading Apple training provider). I spend a heck of a lot of my time at work ordering Apple parts, all of which have either made in China or Indonesia on the boxes - as I'm writing this from home I can see a 661-3280 (part number for an eMac logic board) and a 661-4211 (MacBook LCD panel - I think, can't be bothered to go on GSX and check, it's not a part number I'm familiar with).

You speak of Apple replacing your logic board quickly, that's basically what my job is - Apple outsource their returns. I see the numbers of machines that come in. I also see the number of parts that are DOA, which is close to 10% of them - demonstrating appalling quality. You are right that Apple use various suppliers for the different parts, but from the quality of the parts it seems they pick whoever will do it cheapest.

I'm an ACMT working at the 3rd largest Apple returns centre in Europe. I see a lot of Apple parts and am ideally placed to get a great idea of what the quality and reliability of the parts is.

The polished build quality you refer to is the chassis build. That's it. Shoddy parts in high quality casing (that is often a complete bitch to get open properly - the number of tools you need is absurd).

I wouldn't say they're absurd claims at all. I'm simply stating the facts. The facts that deluded Macheads seem completely ignorant of.
I have been working with Mac now for around 7 years. From the early iMac to the new 2007 iMacs, and have never had a hardware failure.
So I contradict your observing.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6792|SE London

Bernadictus wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Can you post some links to back your claims. I will be the first to admit the logic boards on older ibooks were not very well designed. I had one fail on me, but Apple replaced it quickly and bumped my hard drive up 20 gbs.

Also how can you claim the build quality is low when ever review glows about how polished the build is on a every mac?

Also apple contracts with many different suppliers for their parts. They do not build every part of the computer, and I don't believe every part comes from China.

Please present some proof before you make absurd claims.
I work for Apple (well the UK APP partner, we do all APP returns, all Apple ER returns, all DOAs and most warranty returns for Apple in the UK and are also the UK's leading Apple training provider). I spend a heck of a lot of my time at work ordering Apple parts, all of which have either made in China or Indonesia on the boxes - as I'm writing this from home I can see a 661-3280 (part number for an eMac logic board) and a 661-4211 (MacBook LCD panel - I think, can't be bothered to go on GSX and check, it's not a part number I'm familiar with).

You speak of Apple replacing your logic board quickly, that's basically what my job is - Apple outsource their returns. I see the numbers of machines that come in. I also see the number of parts that are DOA, which is close to 10% of them - demonstrating appalling quality. You are right that Apple use various suppliers for the different parts, but from the quality of the parts it seems they pick whoever will do it cheapest.

I'm an ACMT working at the 3rd largest Apple returns centre in Europe. I see a lot of Apple parts and am ideally placed to get a great idea of what the quality and reliability of the parts is.

The polished build quality you refer to is the chassis build. That's it. Shoddy parts in high quality casing (that is often a complete bitch to get open properly - the number of tools you need is absurd).

I wouldn't say they're absurd claims at all. I'm simply stating the facts. The facts that deluded Macheads seem completely ignorant of.
I have been working with Mac now for around 7 years. From the early iMac to the new 2007 iMacs, and have never had a hardware failure.
So I contradict your observing.
You've been lucky. I see the figures for the whole country. You have nothing but personal experience. Which must be fairly limited if you haven't encountered any HW failures (which in their defence, are the most common form of problems on Macs, software errors are far rarer than in more open hardware environments). Or maybe it's because you're in the Netherlands, which is where SPS is, which is where all the parts get shipped from around Europe - maybe you get all the good shit...    but somehow I doubt that.

The price on OOW repairs is truely staggering too. For the price of a logic board replacement on an iBook G4, you could buy a MacBook - that's just crazy.

I wouldn't buy a Mac - and I get a 20% discount (I get them for free anyway - on indefinite loan, so it's not an issue).

(on a side note, how are you finding Leopard? I assume you're already using it - we don't use it on the main network at work because it doesn't work properly with Filemaker, but once they've ironed that out we will - which'll be nice, because I'll probably get an upgrade on my shitty iMac).

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-11-27 13:20:35)

Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6942|St. Andrews / Oslo

Bertster7 wrote:

The price on OOW repairs is truely staggering too. For the price of a logic board replacement on an iBook G4, you could buy a MacBook - that's just crazy.
wow.
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Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6947

Bertster7 wrote:

Buy a Mac - and I get a 20% discount (I get them for free anyway - on indefinite loan, so it's not an issue).

(on a side note, how are you finding Leopard? I assume you're already using it - we don't use it on the main network at work because it doesn't work properly with Filemaker, but once they've ironed that out we will - which'll be nice, because I'll probably get an upgrade on my shitty iMac).
Leopard has some silly bugs with the Creative Suite 3 pack from Adobe, but that is more or less Adobe's problem.
I find Leopard a good OS with, imo, good improvements in speed and accessibility.

I run it on both my home 2,8Ghz 24" iMac, and my office 2,4Ghz 24" iMac, our company MacBook Pro 17", and our older 20" and 24" iMacs.

No issues what so ever. Just don't upgrade A clean install works far better then the upgrade (it bricks InDesign).
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6792|SE London

Bernadictus wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Buy a Mac - and I get a 20% discount (I get them for free anyway - on indefinite loan, so it's not an issue).

(on a side note, how are you finding Leopard? I assume you're already using it - we don't use it on the main network at work because it doesn't work properly with Filemaker, but once they've ironed that out we will - which'll be nice, because I'll probably get an upgrade on my shitty iMac).
Leopard has some silly bugs with the Creative Suite 3 pack from Adobe, but that is more or less Adobe's problem.
I find Leopard a good OS with, imo, good improvements in speed and accessibility.

I run it on both my home 2,8Ghz 24" iMac, and my office 2,4Ghz 24" iMac, our company MacBook Pro 17", and our older 20" and 24" iMacs.

No issues what so ever. Just don't upgrade A clean install works far better then the upgrade (it bricks InDesign).
I've only got upgrade disks....

Apple, in their infinite wisdom, decided we only get upgrade disks for free - full copies we have to pay for (@ 20% less than reseller price). The bugs with Filemaker (who are almost entirely owned by Apple) are Apples fault, but they promise it will be patched soon.

Leopard seems like a perfectly decent OS. Though it runs slower than Tiger and stacks are gay. I quite like all the various flavours of OS X though, the software side is not what I have an issue with when it comes to Macs, it's hardware - and I know my Mac hardware pretty fucking well, well enough to know it is all low grade overpriced shit.

Just to give you an idea: A 250GB 7200rpm SATA HDD from Apple, just like you could buy from a 3rd party vendor, costs about £190 - as opposed to about £40.
jkg1389
The Sound Of Silence
+9|6675
Not sure if this is the right category, but here goes. I have a MacBookPro and when its closed it makes a sound like the disc unlocking every few minutes or so. I haven't had any technical problems, but it is quite annoying and I worry that there could be problems to come.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6792|SE London

jkg1389 wrote:

Not sure if this is the right category, but here goes. I have a MacBookPro and when its closed it makes a sound like the disc unlocking every few minutes or so. I haven't had any technical problems, but it is quite annoying and I worry that there could be problems to come.
Sounds like it's dying....
Could be the HDD, could be the logic board, could even be the quite common issue of misaligned magnets in the top and bottom case assemblies which cause the machine to wake out of sleep mode when closed, could even be a superdrive fault - they make a lot of funny noises. It's hard to tell.

Hope you've got APP, otherwise you're about to get screwed over. Especially if it is a top/bottom case issue, because those parts are often not covered under the Apple 1 year limited warranty.

Have you tried checking the disk thoroughly, running diskwarrior (if you have access to it) is often a good idea, it can sometimes sort little HDD issues out. You could try running ASD, or since you probably don't have access to that, AHT.

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