M16 vs. AK-47

2006-01-25 11:20:26

#26

Horseman 77: Banned; +160|7058

I own several Versions of the AK47. Its a "conscripts rifle " Not a " Riflemans " weapon.
The Yugoslavian is the best, well made. It seems like the magazines are magnetized to the magazine well. You get the Mag near and pop ! its in ! and properly seated.

The worst is the Norinco from China, Tuff to seat magazines, sharp and rough edges all over. Its so bad my suspicion is that they don't really care about there export products and keep the good ones at home. However this is what the USA always suspected about Russian Equipment. Now that we faced it, It really did suck. Its is made to be fielded by dogs who never held a weapon before. Really clunky. Some shoot strait some don't and its a hump to try and tune one. Don't bother just get another till you find a good shooter. Even the SVD is inaccurate relatively speaking. Its a "conscripts sniper, ( Heads Down ) rifle " Not a " Rifleman's " weapon

The M16 design is tighter well thought out ( but this nonsense of putting carrying handles on weapons has got to STOP ). It does seemed designed to purposely inject fowling into its mechanism and it's pretty dirty after just one round. It also is in need of a realistic battle cartridge. The battlefield is no place for a .22 caliber anything. The only advantage to the light fast .223 round is its easier to lead a moving target and fire comfortably if you are a girl or have a girls build.

A trained Rifleman can put out 7.62 or .308 rounds without discomfort. I realized the .223 NATO Round was designed to accommodate many nations who have no right to be armed and have never fired a weapon and will not once they are mustered out of service. But it has routinely let us down in battle.

All in all I am a fan of the L1A1 or FN FAL. I realize its heavy but it can knock shit down fast.

2006-02-05 17:07:04

#27

blacksheepcannibal: Member; +24|6973

Ingame: AK-101. I hate burst fire when im on top of somebody, and at range, i just switch the AK to single shot.

Real life: There has been one westernized country that has used both the M-16 and the AK-47, and had the freedom to choose which. Israel. M-16 FTW, its just a better, more accurate weapon. And the 5.56 nato (.223 cal) round is designed to wound, not to kill. i assume that has to do with the geneva convention, whatever. side effect is that its a very accurate round (M-16 was experemented with as a snipers rifle), but not alot of stopping power. in that, i agree with horseman. Having fired both, the M-16 was lighter, more accurate, and easier to fire. The AK-47 was heavier, clunky if dependable, but a little hard to put on target and keep there.

2006-02-05 17:17:47

#28

psychotoxic187: Member; +11|6930

blacksheepcannibal wrote:
Ingame: AK-101. I hate burst fire when im on top of somebody, and at range, i just switch the AK to single shot.

Real life: There has been one westernized country that has used both the M-16 and the AK-47, and had the freedom to choose which. Israel. M-16 FTW, its just a better, more accurate weapon. And the 5.56 nato (.223 cal) round is designed to wound, not to kill. i assume that has to do with the geneva convention, whatever. side effect is that its a very accurate round (M-16 was experemented with as a snipers rifle), but not alot of stopping power. in that, i agree with horseman. Having fired both, the M-16 was lighter, more accurate, and easier to fire. The AK-47 was heavier, clunky if dependable, but a little hard to put on target and keep there.

The .223 will do alot of damage to you. It doesn't simply go in the front and out the back, like an AK will do. The .223 will bounce around inside of you, and rip your insides apart, shattering bones along the way.

2006-02-05 21:34:51

#29

Maj.Do: Member; +85|6973|good old CA

from what my uncle told me the ak47 can be taken to thru mud environment and still work with out jamming and the m16 cant. Not sure if true but yea. I prefer the AK101 because i find it more powerful and accurate but thats me

2006-02-05 21:38:05

#30

ozzie_johnson: Member; +98|6879|Penrith, N.S.W, Australia

ak47 owns over the m16 in bf2. don't no about in real life.

2006-02-11 11:21:10

#31

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6935|Purplicious Wisconsin

Number one: m16 and ak101 tied because the m16 burst fire is good for both short and medium ranges and long range with single. Ak 101 because it is good in close quarters and short range(close quarters=closer than short range to me) with full auto and medium and long ranges with semi auto. Note: burst is not good in close quarters though however so use a pistol or knife when in that range if you have a m16.

Last(but not least) place: ak47 because full auto is good for short range and sometimes close quarters if you are lucky enough to kill someone that close with an ak47 and medium range for semi auto.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2006-03-18 02:14:57

#32

Norseman: Member; +0|6999

M16 if I'm doing long range stuff, AK if I'm doing close quarters stuff. The M16 is practically a sniper rifle, the AK is just devastating in close combat.

2006-03-26 01:07:49

#33

jakethepyro: Member; +7|6854

Stratocaster wrote:
The AK-47 is a lighter version of the german WWII MP-44 (machinepistol 44), that lethal weapon was a real war trophy for allies during the war. The first machine gun to ever have a curved clip. google it and you will see I am right.

i think the mp5 is the light version but the ak 47 looks alot alike

Last edited by jakethepyro (2006-03-26 01:19:35)

2006-03-26 13:35:43

#34

tvmissleman: The Cereal Killer; +201|6879| United States of America

AK-47 pwnz all

2006-03-26 13:51:32

#35

Horseman 77: Banned; +160|7058

I like the AK because I feel a .22 has no realistic place on a battlefield. Though I gotta admit I know a few people who where hit by Aks. You never meet anyone who was hit by an M16 and Lives to tell about it.

2006-03-26 13:54:17

#36

Horseman 77: Banned; +160|7058

chitlin wrote:
... lolz the ak-47 made in 1949 ? ..no it was made in ,....wait for it ....

1947

47 is the design model year number, he meant it was fielded in 49, nice try though.

Last edited by Horseman 77 (2006-03-26 13:55:08)

2006-03-26 13:59:33

#37

Horseman 77: Banned; +160|7058

jakethepyro wrote:
Stratocaster wrote:
The AK-47 is a lighter version of the german WWII MP-44 (machinepistol 44), that lethal weapon was a real war trophy for allies during the war. The first machine gun to ever have a curved clip. google it and you will see I am right.
i think the mp5 is the light version but the ak 47 looks alot alike

He means the STG 43/4 I believe

2006-03-26 14:01:28

#38

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6865

how many of you have actually fired these weapons?

2006-03-27 15:28:49

#39

The_Fighting_69th: Combat medic; +6|6974

Shot both (well the civvie versions anyway, a Rock River standard A2 and a a WASR). I have to say I would perfer a M14 in real combat. But given the choice between the AK and an M16A2 I would go with the M16 because the sights are SO much better IMO.

Back on topic, in the game I perfer the M16 in all cases, I like the burst over the full auto of the AK and usually use single shot.

2006-03-30 07:43:25

#40

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6865

The_Fighting_69th wrote:
Shot both (well the civvie versions anyway, a Rock River standard A2 and a a WASR). I have to say I would perfer a M14 in real combat. But given the choice between the AK and an M16A2 I would go with the M16 because the sights are SO much better IMO.

Back on topic, in the game I perfer the M16 in all cases, I like the burst over the full auto of the AK and usually use single shot.

not just your opinion, fact.

2006-04-04 18:51:01

#41

Rhodsie: Member; +0|6819

mp-44 is the wrong term, the stg-44 was not a machine pistol, it was also not a machine gun. a machine gun is belt fed by definition. the stg-44 was an assault rifle.

"Despite circumstantial evidence, Mikhail Kalashnikov denies that his rifle was based on the German assault rifle. Internally, the AK-47 owes much to the M1 Garand Rifle. The double locking lugs, unlocking raceway, and trigger mechanism are clearly derived from the earlier American design. This is not surprising as millions of Garand rifles had operated reliably in combat around the globe. Though mechanically similar to the Garand, the AK-47 clearly borrows its cartridge concept, weapon layout, gas system, and construction methods from the StG44. Where the Kalashnikov rifle differs is in its simplification of those contributing designs and adaptation to mass production by relatively unskilled labor. The AK-47 can be seen as a fusion of the best that the M1 Garand offered combined with the best aspects of the StG44 made by the best processes available in the Soviet Union at the time."

Last edited by Rhodsie (2006-04-04 18:54:39)

2006-04-05 14:58:48

#42

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6865

wounded soldiers require more personel to attend to than a dead soldier, therefor instead of one target being out of the equation, you have 3: one wounded and two to attend to that wounded man, at least thats the logic behind it. Carry case is pretty worthless but I cant imagine looking down the iron sights of an M-16 without it. The A4 gets rid of this problem.

2006-04-11 04:54:29

#43

Duncan1234: Member; +5|6824

its hard 2 choose between both of them

the m16 is more accurate than the ak-47 at longer ranges and overall is more accurate

but the ak-47 uses larger rounds 7.62mm where as the m16 uses 5.56mm so tht = more stoppin power plus with the ak u have auto which is better at close range

personally i would go with thew ak-101

2006-04-11 07:49:28

#44

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6865

Duncan1234 wrote:
its hard 2 choose between both of them

the m16 is more accurate than the ak-47 at longer ranges and overall is more accurate

but the ak-47 uses larger rounds 7.62mm where as the m16 uses 5.56mm so tht = more stoppin power plus with the ak u have auto which is better at close range

personally i would go with thew ak-101

quit playing video games

2006-04-11 07:56:41

#45

Eckzack: The east-german Fuxxer; +37|7065|Germany / Saxony

Automatov Kalaschnikov all the way!!! (see my sig)

My father worked in the former German Democratic Republic in some factory, wich build in ca. 20 years arround 17.000.000 AK 47´s and AK 74´s for Russia...
I know how to handle theese rifles. In real life and in game...

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2006-04-11 14:46:47

#46

Duncan1234: Member; +5|6824

Duncan1234 wrote:
its hard 2 choose between both of them

the m16 is more accurate than the ak-47 at longer ranges and overall is more accurate

but the ak-47 uses larger rounds 7.62mm where as the m16 uses 5.56mm so tht = more stoppin power plus with the ak u have auto which is better at close range

personally i would go with thew ak-101

GunSlinger OIF II wrote

quit playing video games

i say wot u on about

AK-47 (kalishnikov)	54%	54% - 46
M16	39%	39% - 33
None	5%	5% - 5
Total: 84

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