Lestat<CoN>
Didnt Do it
+9|6972
I hope it all works out for you mate best of luck ok
XDistant_DeathX
Member
+1|6963|Indiana, USA

wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

http://bf2s.com/player/glopje/

Scroll down to theater.  That's where he got the info from.  Army is where he should have been looking:

SEALs 15:54:32 49 23 115
MECSF 26:00:44 50 38 24,577

Add the time, wins, and losses of the 2 teams and you get...
Theater:
SEALs 41:55:24 99 61 24,577
MECSF 41:55:24 99 61 24,577

Since he got 24,577 as MECSF it is recorded as his BR for the time in theater's BR for MECSF AND SEALS.
Point taken... sorry about that.  Thanks!
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6960

ryan_14 wrote:

Sue EA!
That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Your probably American, so I wouldn't put anything past you. Especially since the American Legal System caters to complete idiots. In the rest of the world, one cannot successfully sue for dumping hot coffee over your crotch while driving. It's called common sense outside of America.

Sue EA? Good luck. On what grounds? Your not paying for stat tracking. Your paying for the game itself and the right to play. He can still play, therefore, no legal argument.

I'd love to see a Judge handle a case though. "Motion Dismissed. The plantiff is the biggest nerd I've seen in my courtroom. Who sues a company for online stat tracking anyways?"
glopje_nl
Member
+21|6938|HOLLAND
no i got a good e mail adres so i can send one to them   like i did again

Last edited by glopje_nl (2006-02-01 13:13:06)

ComradeWho
Member
+50|6963|Southern California

Cyberwolf wrote:

ryan_14 wrote:

Sue EA!
That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Your probably American, so I wouldn't put anything past you. Especially since the American Legal System caters to complete idiots. In the rest of the world, one cannot successfully sue for dumping hot coffee over your crotch while driving. It's called common sense outside of America.

Sue EA? Good luck. On what grounds? Your not paying for stat tracking. Your paying for the game itself and the right to play. He can still play, therefore, no legal argument.

I'd love to see a Judge handle a case though. "Motion Dismissed. The plantiff is the biggest nerd I've seen in my courtroom. Who sues a company for online stat tracking anyways?"
EA does however make it's money through hiring PR experts to study consumer behavior and human psychology to detirmine the most effecient and effective ways produce "created needs." A marketing term that is a euphemism for addiction. It is EA's intent to create a consumer that is so emotionally invested in the product that they need it. Clearly the stats/award system is part of this. Now, if you are going to make a stupid response like "the features are a reaction to consumer demand" or "if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to play it" or "why are you here if it's so bad" then do not even bother replying because such replies would be defensive in nature and would ignore the nuances and reality of one of the largest companies in the largest entertainment market in the world (video games) marketing their premiere product and would fail to address my post.

Though legal basis for lawsuit is non-existant as you said you are wrong about your statement about paying for the game. The game features are advertised, which makes them part of the product. You are paying for the game itself, and part of the game are the features that are advertised before the purchase is made. It would be like buying a television and having your remote repossessed because "you can still operate the TV" even though the remote was listed right on the box when you made the purchase. But hey nice punditry - you did a really great job of making a false analogy between this individual's situation in which he has clearly been unfairly persecuted by the company that he has paid for a service from and your abstract and generalized perception of a supposed pathology in the legal psyche of all americans.

Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-02-01 21:40:23)

thefousteph
Member
+8|6999
I think we should make a petition to bring that account back - without the bugged round, which was not the fault of him -

If the BF2S community raise against that kind of reseting account, we can make the difference.

By the way, who will play commander if you could find yourself in a bugged round and then you get your account wipped???????

Not me
glopje_nl
Member
+21|6938|HOLLAND
guys what are petitions??
spacebandit72
Dead Meat
+121|6998|Michigan
Petitions are documents containing the signatures of people who want something changed. The more signatures... the better. Therefore, If we got 10 people to sign a petition to get your stats back... it would'nt work. If we got several thousands, EA would take the request more seriously. If we got millions, I'm sure they would give them back!

Get it now? The bf2s forums are not only entertaining but informative too!!!
glopje_nl
Member
+21|6938|HOLLAND
ok tnx dude
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|6960

ComradeWho wrote:

Cyberwolf wrote:

ryan_14 wrote:

Sue EA!
That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Your probably American, so I wouldn't put anything past you. Especially since the American Legal System caters to complete idiots. In the rest of the world, one cannot successfully sue for dumping hot coffee over your crotch while driving. It's called common sense outside of America.

Sue EA? Good luck. On what grounds? Your not paying for stat tracking. Your paying for the game itself and the right to play. He can still play, therefore, no legal argument.

I'd love to see a Judge handle a case though. "Motion Dismissed. The plantiff is the biggest nerd I've seen in my courtroom. Who sues a company for online stat tracking anyways?"
EA does however make it's money through hiring PR experts to study consumer behavior and human psychology to detirmine the most effecient and effective ways produce "created needs." A marketing term that is a euphemism for addiction. It is EA's intent to create a consumer that is so emotionally invested in the product that they need it. Clearly the stats/award system is part of this. Now, if you are going to make a stupid response like "the features are a reaction to consumer demand" or "if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to play it" or "why are you here if it's so bad" then do not even bother replying because such replies would be defensive in nature and would ignore the nuances and reality of one of the largest companies in the largest entertainment market in the world (video games) marketing their premiere product and would fail to address my post.

Though legal basis for lawsuit is non-existant as you said you are wrong about your statement about paying for the game. The game features are advertised, which makes them part of the product. You are paying for the game itself, and part of the game are the features that are advertised before the purchase is made. It would be like buying a television and having your remote repossessed because "you can still operate the TV" even though the remote was listed right on the box when you made the purchase. But hey nice punditry - you did a really great job of making a false analogy between this individual's situation in which he has clearly been unfairly persecuted by the company that he has paid for a service from and your abstract and generalized perception of a supposed pathology in the legal psyche of all americans.
LOL. This coming from who? A garbage man? McDonalds night crew? What education do you have? Legal background? Highly doubt it.

Read the EULA. You'll understand. EA reserves the right to add or take away any functionality. You cannot legally persue them if they decide to remove the noob tube completely. There is no argument. In addition, EA acted in good faith based on the evidence it had before it. Some people tend to believe that EA rushes on judgements, I highly disagree. The whole legal notion is simply stupid to begin with. I mean who in their right mind would sue over online stats in the first place anyways.

(Not to mention EA would have excellent lawyers, hardly something you'd want to mess with as a low income earning commoner)
glopje_nl
Member
+21|6938|HOLLAND
well i dont get an e mail back so im gonna call ea and i hope that will help
NM156
The H4xor Mod
+161|7115|North Texas
From what I understand, they won't be able to give you your stats back. I was reading a bunch of comments from BF2RS.com and according to an L3 admin, they don't have the means to restore the stats.

One funny thing I found out.. when someone's stats get wiped, they don't wipe the awards.. you get to keep those. How fucking stupid is that? Isn't that a main contributor to the reason people pad in the first place? Wow.
glopje_nl
Member
+21|6938|HOLLAND
my stats is wiped and in my bfhq there are no medals only on this site dude check my stats in BFHQ

oh btw could u post me the link to that topic i cant find it on the site

Last edited by glopje_nl (2006-02-03 06:56:57)

Ali
Official Hell Bound Turbo Action Club Member
+17|6977|Gütersloh, Germany
NM156
The H4xor Mod
+161|7115|North Texas

glopje_nl wrote:

my stats is wiped and in my bfhq there are no medals only on this site dude check my stats in BFHQ
I should have verified that for myself.. I assumed the L3 admin knew what he was talking about. Just goes to show..
I'll see if I can track that post down.. there's a lot of shit there, but I'll try.
NM156
The H4xor Mod
+161|7115|North Texas
You may be interested in this post: http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … php?t=3315
IndianScout
Member
+16|6943
ok after reading this whole thread..

this player was sent to EA for action along with a group of over 400 other players..

I have written to my EA people to get clarification on why the account was reset as they investigate themselves after I sent my findings..

when I hear back from EA as to WHY the account was reset I will post it here..

myself like anyone else doesnt want an innocent player reset, and if one slips thru I will do my best to resolve it..

see you on the battlefield

Indian..
NM156
The H4xor Mod
+161|7115|North Texas
Thank you, that's all that we can ask for. If he's guilty of anything so be it.
glopje_nl
Member
+21|6938|HOLLAND
thanks dude
Lestat<CoN>
Didnt Do it
+9|6972
Woot Go Indian Scout its nice to see someone like you exsists in such a position of ability i hope all goes well for you glopje_nl
Echo
WOoKie
+383|6988|The Netherlands
Hey indianscout, didnt know you are a member here. I ve said in a previsous post that you seem to be a nice guy. I d like to change that to, you are a nice guy!

Thanks alot, now we can get some real answers on this matter...

Last edited by General-Echo (2006-02-03 13:05:41)

ComradeWho
Member
+50|6963|Southern California

ComradeWho wrote:

Though legal basis for lawsuit is non-existant
I think you forgot my opening line there bud but that's ok! Clearly you have a lot of pent up anger at your generalized perception of the pathology in the american public's collective subconscious around law suits. Also remember the guy that was banned didn't suggest a law suit either. I don't remember reading on the box when I bought the game that they could take away some of the advertised features right off the bat. But hey! Whatever, because it says that when you install the game in that section of text that they know nobody ever reads. You know, that thing that's designed so that you don't read/think about it so that you won't return their massively addictive game that (I'm sure with their money) the best marketing experts and psychologists helped to design. They wouldn't want you to do something drastic like not get addicted. And yeah yeah yeah, I'm sure you're one of those people who will bullshit about "it's the persons fault to fight the addiction blah blah blah" but let me ask you what kind of psychology background you have? If they're going to make a game that people can't stop playing then they should have an ethical and individualized way of removing stats, including review of complaints.

It's not a matter of EA rushing in on judgements. It's a matter of them probably using some automated tracking system that earmarks players who get anomalous scores and banning them outright. They may not even have a human being reviewing the bans until somebody complains about them thoroughly enough.

If you're aware of the glitch that causes these score boosts than you know that it's involuntary. And if you have common sense you'd realize that boosting your score by tens of thousands of points in a matter of minutes isn't very good. So your insinuation about EA making a contemplative decision which resulted in the right coruse of action is really stupid. Glopje came around knowing something was wrong and fearing a ban after he discovered his score boost. So again, glopje has been unjustly persecuted and I suspect many others have as well due to an involuntary glitch that is EA's responsibility to fix.

CyberWolf wrote:

I mean who in their right mind would sue over online stats in the first place anyways.
Probably somebody that was highly effected by the elements of the game designed to create a feeling of need and personal accomplishment.

Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-02-03 13:56:35)

brad2195
Banned
+-6|6987
when are you people going to wake the fuck up and boycott any and all EA products?.......you jump willingly into the lion's den and then cry when they take a bite out of your leg........I'm an American and I'm sick at the stupidity of our country

Last edited by brad2195 (2006-02-03 14:04:32)

FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6959|Devon, England

brad2195 wrote:

when are you people going to wake the fuck up and boycott any and all EA products?.......you jump willingly into the lion's den and then cry when they take a bite out of your leg........I'm an American and I'm sick at the stupidity of our country
shhhhhhh

hope ya get ur stats bak!

Last edited by FFLink13 (2006-02-03 15:55:34)

NM156
The H4xor Mod
+161|7115|North Texas
Uncalled for (EUS)Gen.BadSnipaDay... please don't do that again.

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