Poll

Who is responsible for the Poverty and Starvation of the World?

Corrupted Politicians20%20% - 13
Bad Education Systems4%4% - 3
Corporations10%10% - 7
Increasing Inequality1%1% - 1
Resources Scarcity3%3% - 2
Overpopulation20%20% - 13
Lack of Aid0%0% - 0
Un0%0% - 0
All of the above28%28% - 18
Other10%10% - 7
Total: 64
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina
Causes of Poverty

GlobalIssues wrote:

Half the world — nearly three billion people — live on less than two dollars a day.
The GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of the poorest 48 nations (i.e. a quarter of the world’s countries) is less than the wealth of the world’s three richest people combined.
Nearly a billion people entered the 21st century unable to read a book or sign their names.
Less than one per cent of what the world spent every year on weapons was needed to put every child into school by the year 2000 and yet it didn’t happen.
1 billion children live in poverty (1 in 2 children in the world). 640 million live without adequate shelter, 400 million have no access to safe water, 270 million have no access to health services. 10.6 million died in 2003 before they reached the age of 5 (or roughly 29,000 children per day).

Poverty is the state for the majority of the world’s people and nations. Why is this? Is it enough to blame poor people for their own predicament? Have they been lazy, made poor decisions, and been solely responsible for their plight? What about their government? Have they pursued policies that actually harm successful development? Such causes of poverty and inequality are no doubt real. But often less discussed are deeper and more global causes of poverty.

Behind the increasing interconnectedness promised by globalization, are global decisions, policies, and practices. These are typically influenced, driven, or formulated by the rich and powerful. These can be leaders of rich countries or other global actors such as multinational corporations, institutions, and influential people.

In the face of such enormous external influence, the governments of poor nations and their people are often powerless. As a result, in the global context, a few get wealthy while the majority struggle.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6653|USA
Well, we all know it is the US's fault of course.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6557
Where's the Fancy_Pollux option?
klassekock
Proud Born Loser
+68|6588|Sweden
I vote for overpopulation. But mother nature will solve that problem for sure. I'm just waiting for the great pest of 2010. Ebola virus 2.0 ftw!!!!

Last edited by klassekock (2007-07-26 08:20:03)

Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6550|San Diego, CA, USA
Mostly Warlords...
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6563

lowing wrote:

Well, we all know it is the US's fault of course.
Among others, yes.

The West is responsible.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6630|space command ur anus
Corporations
taxi2you
Member
+22|6646|Missouri

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well, we all know it is the US's fault of course.
Among others, yes.

The West is responsible.
How about some facts to back up that ignorant and uneducated comment?
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6738|Salt Lake City

taxi2you wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well, we all know it is the US's fault of course.
Among others, yes.

The West is responsible.
How about some facts to back up that ignorant and uneducated comment?
He wasn't speaking only about the US, but western countries in general.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6695
The game traveled to far east, past the great mountains, there was no way our tribe could survive chasing them; so we stayed behind and lived off of what we could until it was all over.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6292|Éire

lowing wrote:

Well, we all know it is the US's fault of course.
No, not just the US. All of us in the Western world enjoy our lifestyle because the first world keeps the third world down in order to suit its own interests. We are all a little bit to blame.
nlsme
Member
+48|6417|new york
How does the west keep them down exactly? Maybe the arguement could be made for a few, but is that really the problem? Or is the problem that they live where there is no natural wealth, no fertile land to grow food, no water to drink? THEIR governments have mismanaged aid FROM THE WEST? Or there has never been a satisfactry infrastructure (schools,jobs,waste removal)?

Is it really the west fault that they cannot support themselves, and have nothing to offer to anybody else? Should it be expected of the west to totally support them? If every rich man gave half his money to a poor man, money would be worthless.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6563

taxi2you wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well, we all know it is the US's fault of course.
Among others, yes.

The West is responsible.
How about some facts to back up that ignorant and uneducated comment?
Are we ignoring the huge amounts of resources we waste?  Or the fact that our societies are propped up by sweatshops in Asia and Africa?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6563

nlsme wrote:

How does the west keep them down exactly? Maybe the arguement could be made for a few, but is that really the problem? Or is the problem that they live where there is no natural wealth, no fertile land to grow food, no water to drink? THEIR governments have mismanaged aid FROM THE WEST? Or there has never been a satisfactry infrastructure (schools,jobs,waste removal)?

Is it really the west fault that they cannot support themselves, and have nothing to offer to anybody else? Should it be expected of the west to totally support them? If every rich man gave half his money to a poor man, money would be worthless.
You do know the vast amounts of resources required to industrialise?  And that the West did this by taking resources by force from other nations?
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6225|Escea

Just a side question what happened to the 2nd world? Is that the moon or something? I would have to say that poverty is often and affect of people who for the most part are not willing to help themselves, if they had managed to help themselves originally they wouldn't be in the situation they are now, that and tribe wars.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6563

M.O.A.B wrote:

Just a side question what happened to the 2nd world? Is that the moon or something? I would have to say that poverty is often and affect of people who for the most part are not willing to help themselves, if they had managed to help themselves originally they wouldn't be in the situation they are now, that and tribe wars.
So, the Imperial age had nothing to do with it?  And the fact that they don't have teachers is their own fault?  Are you serious?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6544|Texas - Bigger than France
Isn't resource scarcity and overpopulation the same thing?

By the dictionary poverty = scarcity.

But I'm one who believes poverty is not necessary.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6292|Éire

nlsme wrote:

How does the west keep them down exactly? Maybe the arguement could be made for a few, but is that really the problem? Or is the problem that they live where there is no natural wealth, no fertile land to grow food, no water to drink? THEIR governments have mismanaged aid FROM THE WEST? Or there has never been a satisfactry infrastructure (schools,jobs,waste removal)?

Is it really the west fault that they cannot support themselves, and have nothing to offer to anybody else? Should it be expected of the west to totally support them? If every rich man gave half his money to a poor man, money would be worthless.
The system by which the West give loans to developing nations is pretty shitty. We tie in all sorts of demands whereby we get to exploit their resources and labour. Granted, the third is fucked by the fact that they find it difficult to get honest, transparent Governments/rulers in power. Colonialism could be argued as a factor that may have fucked them up for years too ...look how successful Ireland is now after breaking free from it's colonial shackles.
nlsme
Member
+48|6417|new york
The "west" is a modern idea (usually associated with the U.S.). Again I ask for links.
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6742
Liberals they seem to be responsible for everything else on here.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6497
Silly question. Null vote.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6544|Texas - Bigger than France
No offense but poverty is not CREATED by capitalism.
nlsme
Member
+48|6417|new york

Pug wrote:

No offense but poverty is not CREATED by capitalism.
QFT
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6677|Florida, United States

nlsme wrote:

The "west" is a modern idea (usually associated with the U.S.). Again I ask for links.
The "West" is not modern at all.  A philosophy known as Westernization began in Europe after the start of the Industrial Revolution.  The original term "Western" basically meant "Industrialized" because the Industrial Revolution started in the Western Hemisphere.  This is why some modern European nations (UK, France, Spain, etc.) are also referred to Western.

Note: "Western" nations/people are typically connected with a Christian religion.

Last edited by Havok (2007-07-26 09:30:05)

nlsme
Member
+48|6417|new york

Havok wrote:

nlsme wrote:

The "west" is a modern idea (usually associated with the U.S.). Again I ask for links.
The "West" is not modern at all.  A philosophy known as Westernization began in Europe after the start of the Industrial Revolution.  The original term "Western" basically meant "Industrialized" because the Industrial Revolution started in the Western Hemisphere.  This is why some modern European nations (UK, France, Spain, etc.) are also referred to Western.

Note: "Western" nations/people are typically connected with a Christian religion.
Modern meaning IT WASNT A THOUGHT DURING THE IMPERIAL AGE, nor more then 200 years ago.

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