Honor Killing victim was raped, for extra "Honor".

2007-07-20 20:48:06

#26

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6781|PNW

OmniDeath wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
I'm constantly amazed at the depths the Human species can sink to.
there is no hope left for society. sure there is good, but it is far outweighed by the bad.

Yeah, that's what technological advancement is for...a hopeless society.

Real deep.

2007-07-20 20:57:25

#27

west-phoenix-az: Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does; +632|6399

There are more good people in the world than bad. The media just helps the bad "represent" more.

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2007-07-20 21:00:54

#28

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6611|132 and Bush

ATG wrote:
Ruckel wrote:
islam.....

Seppuku?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-07-20 23:03:04

#29

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6478

This is not an Islamic tradition. The whole idea of "honor" killing stemmed from tribal customs older than Mohammad/The Koran/Islam. These traditions are much older than Islam and are considered more important by some people than that of Islam.

2007-07-20 23:06:41

#30

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6684|Canberra, AUS

A perfect example of how a lack of facts can lead to extreme ignorance and bigotry.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2007-07-20 23:14:44

#31

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6590|the dank(super) side of Oregon

As others have said, it's not an Islam thing, it's god damned, backwards south asian/africa culture.

2007-07-21 04:01:41

#32

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6631|London, England

Wikipedia said it came from from Arab culture. Which Islam also came from. Iraq wasn't part of this Arab culture until they started their conquests. Neither was Pakistan, Iran etc...

So, when you start getting what was originally Arab culture (honour killings), into non-Arab countries (historically), and when you realise that they're all the same religion nowadays. You can put two and two together and say that it's now been Ingrained into Islam. And so is more a part of Islam than a cultural thing.

Besides religion pretty much = culture these days. Best example would probably be India/Pakistan. Practically the same thing once upon a time, then they split up into an Islamic Republic (Pakistan) and a Secular Hindu country (India) and look at the differences today.

2007-07-21 04:06:36

#33

Elamdri: The New Johnnie Cochran; +134|6656|Peoria

WHO F$%*(# CARES WHERE IT CAME FROM. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS PEOPLE PRACTICE IT, and IT. NEEDS. TO. FUCKING. STOP.

2007-07-21 05:57:59

#34

bogo24dk: Member; +26|6516

Wow this is what i call a hate mob. It dosen't matter about the truth. Just blame it on Islam.

2007-07-21 06:01:57

#35

Wolphoenix: Member; +3|6160

Gotta love the ignorance towards Islam...

2007-07-21 07:22:22

#36

Lost Hope: Lurker; +20|6337|Brussels, Belgium

Mekstizzle wrote:
Wikipedia said it came from from Arab culture. Which Islam also came from. Iraq wasn't part of this Arab culture until they started their conquests. Neither was Pakistan, Iran etc...

So, when you start getting what was originally Arab culture (honour killings), into non-Arab countries (historically), and when you realise that they're all the same religion nowadays. You can put two and two together and say that it's now been Ingrained into Islam. And so is more a part of Islam than a cultural thing.

Besides religion pretty much = culture these days. Best example would probably be India/Pakistan. Practically the same thing once upon a time, then they split up into an Islamic Republic (Pakistan) and a Secular Hindu country (India) and look at the differences today.

From Wiki : "Honor killing is forbidden in Islam.[13] There is no specific mention of the practice in the Qur'an or Hadiths except in so far as the custom of killing baby girls to protect the family honor, which is specifically condemned in the Qur'an, was a form of honor killing. An honor killing refers specifically to extra-legal punishment by the family against the woman, and it is often argued that this is technically forbidden by the Sharia (Islamic law). Some modern Islamic religious authorities and Muslims disagree with extra-legal punishments such as honor killing and prohibit it, since they consider the practice to be a cultural issue.[14] They believe that since certain pre-Islamic cultures have influence over a number of Muslims, murderers of females use Islam to justify honor killing, even though there is no support for the act in the religion itself"

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2007-07-21 08:01:18

#37

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6539|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:

Honour killings have nothing to do with Islam. It's a cultural inheritance from Pakistan.

And rape has never been a part of honour killing. This was revenge, plain and simple.
They were Iraqi.
Wow. That's amazing.

Ignoring the fact that not all Iraqis are Muslims, one wonders if murder is a part of Christianity, or it just so happens that some Christians are also murderers.

What do ordinary murderers have to do with the culture sickness of Muslim honor killing of women?

2007-07-21 08:35:00

#38

Wolphoenix: Member; +3|6160

ATG wrote:
What do ordinary murderers have to do with the culture sickness of Muslim honor killing of women?

Honor killings got nothing to do with Islam so, same question to you.

2007-07-21 08:59:12

#39

logitech487: Member; +16|6413|From The State Of Taxes

The murders should get the same treatment they gave that poor girl , Maybe that would help change the way they treat their women .

2007-07-21 09:06:56

#40

PigPopTart: Shotgun whore; +133|6299|Pacific NW, USA

She was pretty hot, i would have hit it.

Rufknsrsbro?

2007-07-21 09:09:59

#41

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6539|Global Command

Wolphoenix wrote:
ATG wrote:
What do ordinary murderers have to do with the culture sickness of Muslim honor killing of women?
Honor killings got nothing to do with Islam so, same question to you.

Funny, it mostly seems to be muslims doing this shit, same as suicide bombings and beheadings.

The longer you deny that the worlds problems can be directly laid at the feet of Islam and religion the more people will die and the longer the war will drag on.

Religion is a cancer on humanity.

2007-07-21 09:27:23

#42

bogo24dk: Member; +26|6516

logitech487 wrote:
The murders should get the same treatment they gave that poor girl , Maybe that would help change the way they treat their women .

Agree

2007-07-21 09:35:01

#43

Wolphoenix: Member; +3|6160

non-muslim honour killings:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asi … 013250.ece
http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/135611/1/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0 … 44,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 696820.ece
http://www.queenstribune.com/news/1140818579.html
http://www.hindu.com/2005/08/20/stories … 430100.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/ … 94,00.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/03/ … 50304.html
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050110/ldh1.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4076803.stm

and a lot more that have been committed by non-muslims. Just because you dont see it in the news doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

Suicide bombing or any oct where the person kills him or herself to inflict some kind of damage on another is an age old part of fighting a powerful enemy. You had the kamikaze etc. Its not just muslims. Also, this is quite interesting: http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0223/p09s01-coop.html

beheadings are also somethings which are committed by a large part of the world for crimes or in war sometimes. Its not just so called muslims who do that.

2007-07-21 09:45:32

#44

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6611|132 and Bush

Spark wrote:
A perfect example of how a lack of facts can lead to extreme ignorance and bigotry.

The OP made no mention of Islam. In fact I mentioned Seppuku which is a form of honor killing, although it is suicide .

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-07-21 11:05:06

#45

T.Pike: 99 Problems . . .; +187|6292|Pennsyltucky

Elamdri wrote:
WHO F$%*(# CARES WHERE IT CAME FROM. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS PEOPLE PRACTICE IT, and IT. NEEDS. TO. FUCKING. STOP.

Thank you.

2007-07-21 17:40:23

#46

Ratzinger: Member; +43|6402|Wollongong, NSW, Australia

ATG wrote:
Wolphoenix wrote:
ATG wrote:
What do ordinary murderers have to do with the culture sickness of Muslim honor killing of women?
Honor killings got nothing to do with Islam so, same question to you.
Funny, it mostly seems to be muslims doing this shit, same as suicide bombings and beheadings.

The longer you deny that the worlds problems can be directly laid at the feet of Islam and religion the more people will die and the longer the war will drag on.

My Edit : ALL Religion is a cancer on humanity.

Cos you wouldn't catch Christians mistreating women.......

2007-07-22 05:32:26

#47

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6571

ATG wrote:
Funny, it mostly seems to be muslims doing this shit, same as suicide bombings and beheadings.

Gee, could that possibly be because Islam was born in the Middle East and honour killing started right next door in Pakistan?

No, that sounds utterly crazy and ridiculous. Like suggesting that the US speaks English because it's early inhabitants were Brits, when everyone knows it's because powerful nations always speak English.

2007-07-23 04:29:25

#48

jamiecracker: Member; +17|6757|Wollongong,Australia

its a damn shame that these kinds of things happen in our modern world. Worse rapes and murders happen all the time in every part of the world. I think the media goes out of its way to focus on bad things that muslims do. And I am not saying that this wasnt a bad crime i hate rape and abuse towards women in any form. But like said before its a cultural thing

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