BF2S Forums New rank points whatever

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

mpec82 wrote:

the top20 guys have more or less the same score, if they keep in this way we'll have a lot of officers, i think dice/ea should make more ranks available for only on or more persons at time son we can have for example:

lets say 1-2 generals, 10 colonel and so on


It would be more realistic

And how do you expect them to Decide who gets what rank? There really is no way to do that on an online game.
That's like saying on an MMORPG only one person can be lvl99 at a time.

Gunbound has such a ranking system and it works.
The lower ranks are based on your points, the higher ranks have limited slots or are based on the percentage of players that have more than a certain score. In BF2 this mark would be 200,000 but I lowered the score for 2nd Lt to 100,000 in this example.

This is just a basic idea. The % aren't calculated based on the amount of BF2 players, because I don't have access to this data. They're random just to give you the idea.

Limited players, based on their score, have more than 100,000 points, awarded on a general basis:
General | 1 player (aka best performing BF2 player)
Lieutenant General | 2 players
Major General | 4 players
Brigadier General | 8 players

based on the % of players above 100,000:
Colonel | 0.5% of players with a score above 100,000
Lieutenant Colonel | 1% of players with a score above 100,000
Major | 2% of players with a score above 100,000
Captain | 4% of players with a score above 100,000
First Lieutenant | 8% of players with a score above 100,000

score based, unlimited slots:
Second Lieutenant | 100,000 points

1 slot:
Sergeant Major of the Corps | Best Performing Sergeant Major, monthly based

unlimited slots:
Sergeant Major/Master Gunnery Sergeant | 50,000 points
First Sergeant/Master Sergeant | 20,000 points
Gunnery Sergeant | 8,000 points
Staff Sergeant | 5,000 points
Sergeant | 2,500points
Corporal | 800 points
LanceCorporal | 500 points
Private First Class | 150 points
Private | 0 points

Gunbound ranking system for comparison:
1 player
4 players
16 players

0.1% of players with a score above 6,900
0.2-1%
2-3%
4-6%
7-10%
11-20%
21-30%
31-50%
51-70%
71-100% of players with a score above 6,900

6,000
5,100
4,200
3,500
2,800
2,300
1,800
1,500
1,200
1,100
under 1099

Note: you start with 1000 points

Last edited by Ali (2006-02-01 03:30:32)

Ali wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

mpec82 wrote:

the top20 guys have more or less the same score, if they keep in this way we'll have a lot of officers, i think dice/ea should make more ranks available for only on or more persons at time son we can have for example:

lets say 1-2 generals, 10 colonel and so on


It would be more realistic

And how do you expect them to Decide who gets what rank? There really is no way to do that on an online game.
That's like saying on an MMORPG only one person can be lvl99 at a time.

Gunbound has such a ranking system and it works.
The lower ranks are based on your points, the higher ranks have limited slots or are based on the percentage of players that have more than a certain score. In BF2 this mark would be 200,000 but I lowered the score for 2nd Lt to 100,000 in this example.

This is just a basic idea. The % aren't calculated based on the amount of BF2 players, because I don't have access to this data. They're random just to give you the idea.

Limited players, based on their score, have more than 100,000 points, awarded on a general basis:
General | 1 player (aka best performing BF2 player)
Lieutenant General | 2 players
Major General | 4 players
Brigadier General | 8 players

based on the % of players above 100,000:
Colonel | 0.5% of players with a score above 100,000
Lieutenant Colonel | 1% of players with a score above 100,000
Major | 2% of players with a score above 100,000
Captain | 4% of players with a score above 100,000
First Lieutenant | 8% of players with a score above 100,000

score based, unlimited slots:
Second Lieutenant | 100,000 points

1 slot:
Sergeant Major of the Corps | Best Performing Sergeant Major, monthly based

unlimited slots:
Sergeant Major/Master Gunnery Sergeant | 50,000 points
First Sergeant/Master Sergeant | 20,000 points
Gunnery Sergeant | 8,000 points
Staff Sergeant | 5,000 points
Sergeant | 2,500points
Corporal | 800 points
LanceCorporal | 500 points
Private First Class | 150 points
Private | 0 points

Gunbound ranking system for comparison:
1 player
4 players
16 players

0.1% of players with a score above 6,900
0.2-1%
2-3%
4-6%
7-10%
11-20%
21-30%
31-50%
51-70%
71-100% of players with a score above 6,900

6,000
5,100
4,200
3,500
2,800
2,300
1,800
1,500
1,200
1,100
under 1099

Note: you start with 1000 points

That would make it more unfair than the 200k points for 2nd lt! You say you'll never make it now, what if they did this? I could guarantee you that the same top guys would just rotate through those top ranks.

If they would put in the new general ranks above the 200K what do you expect should the requirements be? If they would higher it like they did before i guess it would look something like this:

2nd Lieutenant - 200K
1st Lieutenant - 300K(?)
Captain - 500K
Major - 750K
Lt. Colonel - 1000K
Colonel - 1500K
Brigadier General - 1750K
Major General - 2500K
Lieutenant General - 3500K
General - 5000K

Noone would ever reach it. Maybe those crazy statspadders, who are playing one accoung with 2-5 guys just to be top of the list, but most of the regular players will never reach 200K anyway. At the time a regular player should reach the general rank there's battlefield 5 on the marked.

My guess is that general will take 1000K (1 million), maybe 1500K and that they will lower 2nd lieutenant to close the 150K gap. So second lieutenant will be awarded at 100K maybe, 1st at 200K captain at 300K and so on. Anyway, the genral ranks will still be for the stats-powergamer. I'll rather play cool mods as soon as they are out.

there is only like 5000+ player s who have their score above 50k and another 500.000+ players who have their score below 50k! This players have no chance to reach even 200k for the next year or so, and by that time there will be BF3 so I think lowering the ranks and some of the awards...like 4500hours for a medal in SF, would be smart move. I think gaining a new rank every 25k is ok, ofcourse the top 20 players won't like it, as they gain 2000 points a day but who cares about them? I don't have time to play 6 hours a day or more!
It's 500.000+ players against 20!

thats what im worried about. im 29k out and dont want to be promoted over 2lt straight way. ive been playing hard to get there.

Why are you guys saying they are going to lower ranks? You cant go any lower thes are ream military ranks and they are not just making them up. I can only see them going higher, like CPT, LTJ, LTC, COL, BG, MG, LTG, GEN and up on rank.

I didn't have my basic knife and pistol I'd make sure to get them before the patch.

Also I think they need some vet requirements for the new ranks.
This will stop padders from ranking up as well.

I don't think they will lower any of the vets...

However the Experts are a little high at 100 hrs.

Those could be taken down to 50 hrs if they made a master level (platinum color) at 100 hrs.

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I think EA did a pretty good job as is for the badges and ribbons. Sure you can't get all of them right away but they make you play the classes. Also for myself all of the badges as it stands don't seem too "out of reach".

Example once you have all the basics and some of the vets, other vets become "in range".

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if your going for medals as I do. There always seems to be one to work towards. They were also all difficult to get for that time.

Basics are not that hard... but you have to play the badge to get the badge. Isn't that what basic means anyways.

Basic - yeah I know how to do it and can do it.
Vet - Yup, do the experience I'm pretty good at doing ... now.
Expert - I rock a pistol, use it all the time now. Don't understand why more people don't use it.

Here is where I think a Mastery or Plat badge is needed.

Mastery - Where other people start saying. Wow look at that guy he really good, or put that #$%^&@& pistol away you aim-bot hack.

Example:

30 pistol kills in a round... I think I could do that if I got lucky. When I got my expert I had some of the round left, probably could have got 25 that round not sure...

Heal on the other hand... I don't think I could do more than 28. That's got to be the hardest and you have to get lucky.

Last edited by vjs (2006-02-01 12:35:32)

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

DrDestruction wrote:

I don't think the ranking system should be made to allow everyone to be equal.  The people who put more time into the game and play more SHOULD get the higher ranks.

I don't agree with a 150,000 pt difference, but there needs to be a line.

Either way, I could care less.  I've pretty much got the unlocks I want and I will be getting the last two in 500 pts (if I ever bother to boot it up again).

They're adding two more unlocks. So if you're referring to the "last two" at 50,000 points, you'll have two more after that.

I meant the last two I WANTED, not the last two total.  Sorry for the confusion.