basically, i think the message trying to be put across is this;DeathBecomesYu wrote:
You STILL don't get it!!!!! I did not say get mad AT your religion. You should be standing up against people who are kidnapping your religion and making it a religion of hate, which you, as a Muslim should be VERY upset about. Instead you bring up the priest/ Catholic situation. I don't know how that pertains to this thread but if you insist.blendiys wrote:
I don't get mad @ my religion, I get mad @ priestess raping children. I hate to kill in name of god but I can't imagine fucking in name of that.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
This post makes my point. You get mad about something that is about someone expressing his freedom of speech. You want to shut the messenger up and post something about "banning" this link. Have you spoken up against the people who are high jacking your religion? How come I haven't seen a post in here from you condemning radicals for what they have done to your religion.
This thread was not made to bash the religion, it was made to show that REAL Muslims need to stand up and clean house and rally against the real people who are ruining your religion. Get mad at what is happening to your religion, not at a commentator, a cartoon or things of that nature. Get mad at the people who are turning your religion into something people fear, loathe and think negative about even after just hearing the word.
I have no problem with my religion, because I'm not part of that shit I hear I see every day.
And speaking by freedom of speech..............?? C'mon, what you know about it??
If you haven't noticed. There has been an uproar against the leadership of the catholic religion and the priests who perpetrated the crimes are getting what they deserve. Catholics ARE speaking up about it and just a few days ago there was a judgement ruling that will cost the Catholic Diocese of LA (correct me if I am wrong on the location) that will cost the leadership 660,000,000 dollars...yes..660 million! The catholic church is paying dearly by money and by reputation. You hear and see jokes about Priests all the time but I don't see rallies against cartoons making fun of priests.
You say you have no problem with your religion, good for you and no one is saying that you are part of the "shit" you see and hear. What people are upset about is that you don't stand up or defend your religion from the radicals. You would rather get mad at a post like this rather than deploring the acts committed in the name of Islam. Instead you bring up Priests? What do I know about freedom of speech? If I choose to speak up against a priest, or speak up against my government...I won't get my head cut off. Imagine if a regular, peaceful Muslim stood up in a radical Mosque in Pakistan and criticized or spoke up at an Islamic Imam in his seat............hmmmm...wonder what would happen. I don't think it would be very tolerant nor peaceful.
You need to understand. I am NOT condemning the Muslim religion. I am being critical of the double standards of what they choose to speak out about and honestly, I personally, don't call radicals that kill in the name of Islam Muslims at all. I know that there are good, peaceful Muslims who contribute and do the right things but the biggest problem of Islam is that it allows itself to be hi-jacked by the radicals and they do nothing about it. Probably growing pains as most religions have gone through, but you keep making my point by how you are reacting to this thread.
You refuse to see anything that was said or written positive, you choose to only pick out parts you find offensive and you close your eyes to what you know is true about what is happening to your religion. You would rather try to change the subject instead of simply saying....Yeah, you're right, we are being hi-jacked but we true Muslims will change that. But you don't, you choose to completely ignore and attack something else...I thank you for proving my point in the first place.
why aren't the moderate muslims condemning the acts of violence and terror commited in the name of Islam by fellow muslims but are quick to denounce acts such as cartoons drawn of the prophet by non-muslims? does it mean that fellow muslims can get away with murder but non-muslims must pay for the slightest offence? that muslims should take stock of what is going wrong within their society rather than be so quick to lash out at others of other faith.
and in no way,imo, is DeathBecomesYu condemning the muslim faith.
