TrevorP
Member
+0|6800
I dont hate america i just think that the current administration is absolute bullshit as well as the outlook that half the americans have that the world will be theirs and fine no matter how much gas they burn or other countries in the world the piss off.

And as for the thing on other people being jealous of the freedoms america has...thats not why people hate you infact Im Canadian and I have very similar rights and I only dislike your point of view on the world...
Refused
Member
+0|6668|South Sweden
Im a communist. But that doesn't make me hate americans. On the other hand I hate your government, and I cant understand that some of you voted for Bush and the other fascists. I also think that US foreign policy, imperialism,  is horrible.

Last edited by Refused (2006-02-01 08:14:52)

Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6742|California

Refused wrote:

Im a communist. But that doesn't make me hate americans. On the other hand I hate your government, and I cant understand that some of you voted for Bush and the other fascists.
Yeah, because the other choice was so great right?

Our politicians suck ass. Period.

Question: When was someone assasinated last? It's been that long since we've had someone who wanted to actually CHANGE things.

Reagan was the last one to get shot, because he was a badass. Since him, the rest of the fucking drones bicker with each other to fool the American public into thinking they care what we think. It's all about votes and money, and will be until our nation falls.

We are treated like Marionettes. What happened to the renegades? Public servants who actually served the public? Humility and the like. It's fucking infuriating listening to politicians.

It's too bad a 3rd party can't get off the ground.
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6742|California

Refused wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

Refused wrote:

Im a communist. But that doesn't make me hate americans. On the other hand I hate your government, and I cant understand that some of you voted for Bush and the other fascists.
Yeah, because the other choice was so great right?

Our politicians suck ass. Period.

Question: When was someone assasinated last? It's been that long since we've had someone who wanted to actually CHANGE things.

Reagan was the last one to get shot, because he was a badass. Since him, the rest of the fucking drones bicker with each other to fool the American public into thinking they care what we think. It's all about votes and money, and will be until our nation falls.

We are treated like Marionettes. What happened to the renegades? Public servants who actually served the public? Humility and the like. It's fucking infuriating listening to politicians.

It's too bad a 3rd party can't get off the ground.
You could at least voted for Nader
Fuck the Green party. Like I said, there is no 3rd party. And I am a registered independent.
Refused
Member
+0|6668|South Sweden

Erkut.hv wrote:

Refused wrote:

Im a communist. But that doesn't make me hate americans. On the other hand I hate your government, and I cant understand that some of you voted for Bush and the other fascists.
Yeah, because the other choice was so great right?

Our politicians suck ass. Period.

Question: When was someone assasinated last? It's been that long since we've had someone who wanted to actually CHANGE things.

Reagan was the last one to get shot, because he was a badass. Since him, the rest of the fucking drones bicker with each other to fool the American public into thinking they care what we think. It's all about votes and money, and will be until our nation falls.

We are treated like Marionettes. What happened to the renegades? Public servants who actually served the public? Humility and the like. It's fucking infuriating listening to politicians.

It's too bad a 3rd party can't get off the ground.
Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!

Last edited by Refused (2006-02-01 08:23:29)

whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|6765|MA, USA

Greenie_Beazinie wrote:

Didnt hear anyone complaining when Philybmaris (or whatever the fuck his name was) went on his little crusade against "ragheads" or "camel fuckers", that took up most of his posts.
So if someone fails to criticize an instance of racism, following instances are ok?  Nice logic.

Last edited by whittsend (2006-02-01 08:34:51)

Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6742|California

Refused wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

Refused wrote:

Im a communist. But that doesn't make me hate americans. On the other hand I hate your government, and I cant understand that some of you voted for Bush and the other fascists.
Yeah, because the other choice was so great right?

Our politicians suck ass. Period.

Question: When was someone assasinated last? It's been that long since we've had someone who wanted to actually CHANGE things.

Reagan was the last one to get shot, because he was a badass. Since him, the rest of the fucking drones bicker with each other to fool the American public into thinking they care what we think. It's all about votes and money, and will be until our nation falls.

We are treated like Marionettes. What happened to the renegades? Public servants who actually served the public? Humility and the like. It's fucking infuriating listening to politicians.

It's too bad a 3rd party can't get off the ground.
Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!
Fuck Socialism too, I am a capitalist pig. I don't want to support a bunch of lazy motherfuckers. I'm not oppressed, lazy people are "oppressed". I love my country, just don't like my politicians at the moment.
Refused
Member
+0|6668|South Sweden

Erkut.hv wrote:

Refused wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:


Yeah, because the other choice was so great right?

Our politicians suck ass. Period.

Question: When was someone assasinated last? It's been that long since we've had someone who wanted to actually CHANGE things.

Reagan was the last one to get shot, because he was a badass. Since him, the rest of the fucking drones bicker with each other to fool the American public into thinking they care what we think. It's all about votes and money, and will be until our nation falls.

We are treated like Marionettes. What happened to the renegades? Public servants who actually served the public? Humility and the like. It's fucking infuriating listening to politicians.

It's too bad a 3rd party can't get off the ground.
Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!
Fuck Socialism too, I am a capitalist pig. I don't want to support a bunch of lazy motherfuckers. I'm not oppressed, lazy people are "oppressed". I love my country, just don't like my politicians at the moment.
Then you are the lazy one, the workers of America are working so you can sit on top and earn your hundreds of thousand dollars. You clearly don't know much about capitalism.
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6742|California

Refused wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

Refused wrote:


Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!
Fuck Socialism too, I am a capitalist pig. I don't want to support a bunch of lazy motherfuckers. I'm not oppressed, lazy people are "oppressed". I love my country, just don't like my politicians at the moment.
Then you are the lazy one, the workers of America are working so you can sit on top and earn your hundreds of thousand dollars. You clearly don't know much about capitalism.
Rock on. I don't make hundreds of thousands. I make a decent living. What's the point of busting my ass if I make as much as a fast-food employee? I make a good sum of money because I had incentive to. The American dream, where I can earn more than the rest of the lazy fucks around me if I apply myself.

Since when was a welfare recipient a fucking worker? I support them, not because I want to, but because I am forced to.

So, fuck welfare, fuck illegals, and basically fuck everybody. Especially if you don't agree with me.
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|6765|MA, USA

Refused wrote:

Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!

Refused wrote:

Then you are the lazy one, the workers of America are working so you can sit on top and earn your hundreds of thousand dollars. You clearly don't know much about capitalism.
Can you  back these statements up with any kind of factual information, or is it just rhetoric intended to inflame emotions?  If the latter, that's hardly a basis for a system of government.
Refused
Member
+0|6668|South Sweden

Erkut.hv wrote:

basically fuck everybody. Especially if you don't agree with me.
I saw this coming. Well good luck with your life buddy!
Refused
Member
+0|6668|South Sweden

whittsend wrote:

Refused wrote:

Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!

Refused wrote:

Then you are the lazy one, the workers of America are working so you can sit on top and earn your hundreds of thousand dollars. You clearly don't know much about capitalism.
Can you  back these statements up with any kind of factual information, or is it just rhetoric intended to inflame emotions?  If the latter, that's hardly a basis for a system of government.
Well, have you read the Communist Manifesto?
I didn't think so.
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6742|California

Refused wrote:

whittsend wrote:

Refused wrote:

Socialist revolution is the only solution. You see the USA is a country of oppression and injustice. Workers unite!

Refused wrote:

Then you are the lazy one, the workers of America are working so you can sit on top and earn your hundreds of thousand dollars. You clearly don't know much about capitalism.
Can you  back these statements up with any kind of factual information, or is it just rhetoric intended to inflame emotions?  If the latter, that's hardly a basis for a system of government.
Well, have you read the Communist Manifesto?
I didn't think so.
True, Communism rocks! Just look at..... oh yeah. There aren't any shining beacons of Cummunism. That's so strange...

My saying Fuck everybody is no diferent than the bullshit you esposue. "Workers unite". Yeah, until greed takes over. Every type of Governemnt looks good on paper. Until you throw the human animal elemnt into the mix. Greed hatred & lust. Communism can't work because humans suck by nature.
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|6765|MA, USA

Refused wrote:

whittsend wrote:

Can you  back these statements up with any kind of factual information, or is it just rhetoric intended to inflame emotions?  If the latter, that's hardly a basis for a system of government.
Well, have you read the Communist Manifesto?
I didn't think so.
Wow.  Quick to make judgements.  This judgement happens to be wrong.

I have read it (it was required reading for a college course).  I won't pretend that I remember everything it says because it has been a long time.  I do, however, recall thinking that it was a hugely flawed document.  Of course, if I recall correctly, it was never meant to be an all encompassing description of Communism...more an emotional plea.  The same type of tactic you appear to be using.  Light on facts, high on emotion.

In any case, I can find it complete on the internet for reference, so if you wish to make that the basis for a discussion...by all means, drive on.

Last edited by whittsend (2006-02-01 09:56:29)

Horseman 77
Banned
+160|6844

TrevorP wrote:

I dont hate america i just think that the current administration is absolute bullshit as well as the outlook that half the americans have that the world will be theirs and fine no matter how much gas they burn or other countries in the world the piss off.

And as for the thing on other people being jealous of the freedoms america has...thats not why people hate you infact Im Canadian and I have very similar rights and I only dislike your point of view on the world...
like you know shit about it.
Anubis
Member
+0|6698
I say fuck the human race! ;-)  You guys all write too much!

Last edited by Anubis (2006-02-01 11:07:22)

Kimosabe-sa
Member
+11|6696|Port Elizabeth, South Africa
There are 2 sides to this. Those that hate america.....and america.

Now personally i fall into the area of hating america. Really loth it. I dont hate the people there. They are just mindless drones. Its the people in charge, the idea of america is a point of hatred.

There really is no point to keeping this going...i just read 22 pages of crap.
And all i got out of it was that you all need to go out side and do some thing. Or smoke a joint, drop some acid. Find a solution... For me the use of drugs did open my eyes to alot of things. I dont use any more but they did help me. maybe all you geeks (i included) Should move on and do something else with your life. I mean Until China attacks america we really cant do anything can we. We'll just have to sit here and wait.

Your all most likely that stereotypical geek sitting there with your, fancy pc case, connected to a surround sound system. Little sci-fi figurines mounted around your desk, to keep you busy during load times. You have you game case all neatly in a rack. WHAT the hell do any of us know about politics. unless your studying it, not alot.
And dont come back quoting varying sources from the internet...that proves dick. Stop being such a bunch of retards and move on with your lifes really.
From now until the end of time, people will never get along with each other, we will keep on hating, keep on fighting and killing. There is nothing your little post can do to change anything, your not going to change some ones mind, there way of thinking.

your opinion counts nothing here. None what so ever. why waste your time?
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|6765|MA, USA

Kimosabe-sa wrote:

your opinion counts nothing here. None what so ever. why waste your time?
I give in...why did you?
Kimosabe-sa
Member
+11|6696|Port Elizabeth, South Africa
So we can stop bitching and get to the most important matter at hand...fragging each other in bf2
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|6765|MA, USA

Kimosabe-sa wrote:

So we can stop bitching and get to the most important matter at hand...fragging each other in bf2
Is the debate here stopping you somehow?
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6681|Canberra, AUS

Kimosabe-sa wrote:

So we can stop bitching and get to the most important matter at hand...fragging each other in bf2
Well, what are you doing here? Go noob-tube someone!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6681|Canberra, AUS

Kimosabe-sa wrote:

There are 2 sides to this. Those that hate america.....and america.

Now personally i fall into the area of hating america. Really loth it. I dont hate the people there. They are just mindless drones. Its the people in charge, the idea of america is a point of hatred.

There really is no point to keeping this going...i just read 22 pages of crap.
And all i got out of it was that you all need to go out side and do some thing. Or smoke a joint, drop some acid. Find a solution... For me the use of drugs did open my eyes to alot of things. I dont use any more but they did help me. maybe all you geeks (i included) Should move on and do something else with your life. I mean Until China attacks america we really cant do anything can we. We'll just have to sit here and wait.

Your all most likely that stereotypical geek sitting there with your, fancy pc case, connected to a surround sound system. Little sci-fi figurines mounted around your desk, to keep you busy during load times. You have you game case all neatly in a rack. WHAT the hell do any of us know about politics. unless your studying it, not alot.
And dont come back quoting varying sources from the internet...that proves dick. Stop being such a bunch of retards and move on with your lifes really.
From now until the end of time, people will never get along with each other, we will keep on hating, keep on fighting and killing. There is nothing your little post can do to change anything, your not going to change some ones mind, there way of thinking.

your opinion counts nothing here. None what so ever. why waste your time?
\

This post is on the brink of getting reported.

And these "varying sources on the internet". That proves more than you'll ever come up with.

What do we know about politics? Well some of us keep an eye on NEWS from VARYING SOURCES (to prevent bias)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
DocZ
Member
+13|6695|Belgium
Most people "hate" america coz its a fad...  their friends say its cool to hate america, yeah, I'm cool, I'm tough!!

About the war on terrorism and Iraq:
The americans are simply following a statement from the US declaration of indepence:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Meaning: When something is very very very F***ED UP, those who have the ability to do something, have the RESPONSIBILITY to do something...

I bet you never expected a NON-american quoting the Declaration of indepence now, did you?


(I'm just a history buff, and probably the only person outside the US that doesn't join in the "anti-US" fad)
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6669

DocZ wrote:

Most people "hate" america coz its a fad...  their friends say its cool to hate america, yeah, I'm cool, I'm tough!!

About the war on terrorism and Iraq:
The americans are simply following a statement from the US declaration of indepence:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Meaning: When something is very very very F***ED UP, those who have the ability to do something, have the RESPONSIBILITY to do something...

I bet you never expected a NON-american quoting the Declaration of indepence now, did you?


(I'm just a history buff, and probably the only person outside the US that doesn't join in the "anti-US" fad)
thank you good sir,

you are a gentleman and a scholar ... i shant let that out though ... i would hate to sully your reputation :-)
theturnmaster
Member
+8|6689|Chapel Hill
God Bless the USA, Haters can lick my bottom.  I love my country

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