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2006-01-30 15:02:37
Ducatti20
Member
+1|6901|Arizona

whittsend wrote:

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Think D-day. The combined EU airforces would obtain air superiority and then it would be no problem launching an amphibious assault. And i dislike france too, but their soldiers would kick some US ass, they are the hardest in the EU
Well, I don't think the numbers of the combined European combat aircraft exceed those of the US (even if they do, it isn't by much...Europeans simply don't spend that much on defense).  Even if, for the sake of argument we say they do, its the same problem in a different form.  Logistics again.  The combined EU airforces do not have the refueling support necessary to support an operation on the other side of the Atlantic.  The small numbers that could be sent over would be knocked out of the sky in short order by the US forces which have their own logistic support right there.  Logistics will get you every time.  Can't get past it.

chinesemaster006 wrote:

And if ever USA attacked/ invaded any country that is part of the UN for no reason but for it's resources (example: Iraq (even though not part of UN)), good luck USA because the rest of the countries part of the UN will join forces wipe you out.
Heh.  Not too worried about that.  I have worked with UN troops (Somalia).  For the most part they are worse than useless.  Most UN troops won't face a disorganised rabble; when the rounds start flying they can't run away fast enough.  I can't imagine what they would do fighting a real professional army.  Probably wouldn't show up in the first place.

I'm guessing that most of the folks saying that X country's forces are useless have never been in the military or been on the receiving end of a round fired in anger.  Give it a try and THEN come back an talk shit.
Props to you for being intelligent...

I won't take sides here as the scenario is just not possible, either for Europe (or a world colalition) OR for the US.

Whit is completely and absolutely correct, either way it just isn't possible.
2006-01-30 15:06:05
Ducatti20
Member
+1|6901|Arizona

Horseman 77 wrote:

I also suspect he's a Bunny hopper.
That sir, is just plain rude!


Lol
2006-01-30 15:30:44
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6901

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Think D-day. The combined EU airforces would obtain air superiority and then it would be no problem launching an amphibious assault. And i dislike france too, but their soldiers would kick some US ass, they are the hardest in the EU
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


OMGWTFBBQ!!!!

French soldiers are the hardest in the EU ... possibly the Legion Estrange ( french foreign legion) i have met plenty of french army regulars ... and franky not a single one of them impressed me as a combat capable soldier. europe has had the US to watch over it's back for the last 65 years ... we rebuilt much of europe, (read marshal plan) we are the largest consumer of your products, and the US keeps many european companies afloat since your governments are taxing and regulating you to death.

besides 300,000,000 americans and 192,000,000 arms in the hands of private citizens i dont think any army in the world stands a chance.

or As Admiral Yamamoto is reputed to have said, “You cannot invade America. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
2006-01-30 15:54:12
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7006|UK

Horseman 77 wrote:

Israel would be on U.S.A.s side No ?
Yeah i never get that... England gives them the land, UN agrees on the state of israel exists and yet they bum the americans hard up the ass!


BTW this is another pointless discussion its called THE NUCLEAR ERA!

But if nukes didnt exist i think europe and russia would win simply becasue the americans are spread too thin. Plus israel wouldnt be able to help u, if america got involved in a war the arab nations would take that as an opertunaty to attack israel. night all gtg.

Last edited by Vilham (2006-01-30 15:56:07)

2006-01-30 16:31:27
-=|BW|=-Hollow_Moon
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+5|6994
The UK has James Bond though...
2006-01-30 16:58:03
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6901
^^^^^^^^

somebody plays UT2k4
2006-01-30 17:04:03
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6927
James bond is a pussy him his gizmo toys damn him to hell i'll run him over with a lawnmower!

That girl in the 1997 movie was pretty, pretty though whats her name some wierd russian name sounds like a sasuage to me blahblahblakaka or something.
2006-01-30 22:20:37
Rolandoomg
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+0|6912|Nevada
well didn't feel like reading 7 full pages but its all hypothetical anyways.  But the U.S. would never allow a foriegn country to rule over it. If it came down to it the Policy of the U.S. is if we aren't on top then NO ONE shall be on top.... Sad but true thats why the U.S. has been so staunch on the keeping of its Nuclear weapons.
2006-01-30 23:23:17
Jack_Danger
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+2|6908|America
All I have to say is watch this. http://www.endofworld.net/Stop bringing nukes into this because it's called THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS

And to whoever said all Europe would have to do is nuke New York City, washington D.C., and NORAD That wouldn't work. First of all NORAD is made to be impenitrable to a nuke bomb, I'm sure that Our capital has a major plan set up in case of a nuclear attack, New york would probably be fucked though. But none of that matters because there is the NMD system to prevent that.

P.S. I was wondering whose side do you think the UK would take if the rest of Europe(excluding russia) decided to attack America?

Last edited by Jack_Danger (2006-01-30 23:25:28)

2006-01-30 23:55:26
Rosse_modest
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+76|7015|Antwerp, Flanders

Jack_Danger wrote:

I'm sure that Our capital has a major plan set up in case of a nuclear attack, New york would probably be fucked though.
I'm sure that IF there were to be a real nuclear attack, that plan wouldn't amount to sh**.
2006-01-31 00:06:46
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7077
Amphibious Invasion,.. R U kidding ?

The US submarine fleet alone would preempt any invasion

as would The US Aircraft Carrier Fleet.

A better post would have been which  ( part ) of the US Armed Services could handle Europe.
2006-01-31 00:08:07
Horseman 77
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+160|7077

-=|BW|=-Hollow_Moon wrote:

The UK has James Bond though...
Nice Try The Real James Bond Was Duskow Popov He was a Pole.
2006-01-31 00:09:18
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7077

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

James bond is a pussy him his gizmo toys damn him to hell i'll run him over with a lawnmower!

That girl in the 1997 movie was pretty, pretty though whats her name some wierd russian name sounds like a sasuage to me blahblahblakaka or something.
You dont mean Rupaul the Shemale do you ?
2006-01-31 09:22:51
atlvolunteer
PKMMMMMMMMMM
+27|7011|Atlanta, GA USA
chinesemaster006: what the hell are you talking about?  I find it amusing that this entire thread has been about whether the EU could invade the US, but inevitably there are people who assume the US must be the invader, either because they didn't read the whole thread, or because they read none of the thread.
2006-01-31 12:01:06
Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6949|Sweden
Combined european arms would kick US ass any day
2006-01-31 16:32:07
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6927

Horseman 77 wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

James bond is a pussy him his gizmo toys damn him to hell i'll run him over with a lawnmower!

That girl in the 1997 movie was pretty, pretty though whats her name some wierd russian name sounds like a sasuage to me blahblahblakaka or something.
You dont mean Rupaul the Shemale do you ?
No the girl on James Bond side wich was also in the Golden Eye videogame i forget her name not the agressive one the one thats on bonds side the one that was working in the lab with that nerd boris then escapes or something.
2006-01-31 18:06:22
kodiak90
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Jack_Danger wrote:

All I have to say is watch this. [url]http://www.endofworld.net/[/url]Stop bringing nukes into this because it's called THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS
Finally somebody that see's it from my point of view i tried telling these morons about the site like 3 pages ago but it was disregarded quickly.
2006-01-31 18:55:57
Schutzengel
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Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Combined european arms would kick US ass any day
it is funny you say that over the picture of two saabs carrying american maveric and sidewinder missles.
2006-01-31 19:01:30
Berserk_Vampire
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Schutzengel wrote:

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Combined european arms would kick US ass any day
it is funny you say that over the picture of two saabs carrying american maveric and sidewinder missles.
Maybe him and his friend hijacked em?
2006-01-31 19:11:55
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6901
actually it is a very standard loadout for the swedes... most of the interceptor payloads are of american origin...  they have been using the AIM-9 sidewinder for quite some time (inexpensive, durable and very effective at close range) the newest upgrades in the Saab 37 block add hardware and software support for the american AIM-120 AMRAAM, a good move because the AMRAAM itself is smarter than the average Lawn Dart Pilot ( F-16 "Lawn Dart" is a registered trademark of the General Dynamics Corporation) shooting it.

the american Air Force is by far the best in the world and it only gets better with the introduction of the first operation squadron of F-22 Raptors last month at Langley.

Supercruise under mil power, very low IR and Radar sig, makes the eurotrash fighter look like a redone 16.

lucky for you  guys you have had uncle sam looking over your shoulder so you could build your social concience without getting your hands dirty defending yourself for the last 65 years. and now you act like the spoiled F@#$ing brats you are.

F-22 Goodness what's not to love.

https://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:eOX-mASXUn4J:home.pon.net/hunnicutt/images/F22.jpg
2006-01-31 19:53:15
I2elik
Member
+12|6992|Perth, Western Australia

bEAv3D wrote:

That's it!!!! I'm moving to Australia......
We'll welcome you with open arms, just avoid the bogans
2006-01-31 19:55:55
I2elik
Member
+12|6992|Perth, Western Australia
I can't believe people are saying "lol we would just nuke you lol", oh right, fuck them over and YOURSELF why don't you? IF China were brought in, they have the largest ground force in the world, along with the largest amount of aircraft material (airplanes, missiles etc.) according to the Guiness Book of Records, so minus nukes, the US would be fucked over, it's not like oil comes from two places in the world.\\

Australia also has the advantage of being separated from other countries, we're completely surrounded by ocean, but we're also Allied with the US, so I don't know if we'd stick with you and help out, or defect and join the limey's, heck, they found this place.

Last edited by I2elik (2006-01-31 19:57:38)

2006-01-31 20:27:05
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6927
We cant let any one hurt Australia because of the sexy girls.

But you also have Crocodiles for defence too.
2006-01-31 23:51:51
Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6949|Sweden

Schutzengel wrote:

actually it is a very standard loadout for the swedes... most of the interceptor payloads are of american origin...  they have been using the AIM-9 sidewinder for quite some time (inexpensive, durable and very effective at close range) the newest upgrades in the Saab 37 block add hardware and software support for the american AIM-120 AMRAAM, a good move because the AMRAAM itself is smarter than the average Lawn Dart Pilot ( F-16 "Lawn Dart" is a registered trademark of the General Dynamics Corporation) shooting it.
the american Air Force is by far the best in the world and it only gets better with the introduction of the first operation squadron of F-22 Raptors last month at Langley.
Supercruise under mil power, very low IR and Radar sig, makes the eurotrash fighter look like a redone 16.
lucky for you  guys you have had uncle sam looking over your shoulder so you could build your social concience without getting your hands dirty defending yourself for the last 65 years. and now you act like the spoiled F@#$ing brats you are.
F-22 Goodness what's not to love.
Ever heard of Bofors? Or BILL2 ?
2006-02-01 04:32:24
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|6998|MA, USA

I2elik wrote:

IF China were brought in, they have the largest ground force in the world, along with the largest amount of aircraft material (airplanes, missiles etc.)
China doesn't change the equation too much.  China doesn't even have the logistical ability to invade Taiwan, much less the US.  Their military force is purely local.  Their force projection ability is virtually zero.

 

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