BF2S Forums Is cancer a mind disease?

If it's brain cancer, then yes.

weasel_thingo wrote:

my friends teacher on the first day of school said not to get angry and not to hate because if you be negative towards stuff thenyour cells go bad and turn into cancer, everyone started laughing then my friend shouted out "now now everyone, we dont want to get cancer" for the rest of teh year no one took her seriously and my friend doesnt have cancer, so no.

So, it turns out I'm not the only 5 year old in D&ST.

V1king wrote:

I thought I'd ask this question because of it's prevailance in society these days.  Yeah poor health is blamed for many of them like bowel, some lung related ones (smoking, etc..), some are genitic like breast, cervical, etc... but would you believe that the mind (Your brain) would play a contributing factor?  I firmly believe it does but not much scientific proof to state otherwise.  A lifestyle of stress, anxiety, depression, anger and so on surely must play a role in this and many other illnesses we suffer, especially cancer.

Maybe a trip to the shrink may solve many of these by changing how we react to the everyday trends of modern lifestyle as we know it and bring about a healthier future by acting early, whilst you're still healthy as we speak.

What do you think?

Problems associated with the mind are often linked to physiological symptoms, even if outwardly-invisible. Chemistry, people.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-06-28 02:07:42)

V1king wrote:

A lifestyle of stress, anxiety, depression, anger and so on surely must play a role in this and many other illnesses we suffer, especially cancer.

I'm in my final year of school and we did some stress management thing. We learnt that stress will lower the effectiveness of one's immune system. We are more susceptible to common colds, etc. I guess having that lifestyle could act as a contributing factor, but things like cancer (some types) are genetically predetermined.

iamangry wrote:

No, it's not a "mind disease", and to be honest that's really offensive.

I'll jump on that too. About 8 years ago one of my grandads died of bowel cancer. He had another type and the docters said "we got it all". That' turned out to be wrong... Recently my other grandad has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. It's in the early stages so the outlook is 'looking good'.

iamangry wrote:

No, it's not a "mind disease", and to be honest that's really offensive.

i dont see it as offensive, i just see it as wrong, my mum died of cancer and she wasnt a negative person or anything and she was a happy person.
while i do think that being stressed and being negative etc can maybe effect other things i dont think it would get you something like cancer.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

V1king wrote:

I thought I'd ask this question because of it's prevailance in society these days.  Yeah poor health is blamed for many of them like bowel, some lung related ones (smoking, etc..), some are genitic like breast, cervical, etc... but would you believe that the mind (Your brain) would play a contributing factor?  I firmly believe it does but not much scientific proof to state otherwise.  A lifestyle of stress, anxiety, depression, anger and so on surely must play a role in this and many other illnesses we suffer, especially cancer.

Maybe a trip to the shrink may solve many of these by changing how we react to the everyday trends of modern lifestyle as we know it and bring about a healthier future by acting early, whilst you're still healthy as we speak.

What do you think?

Problems associated with the mind are often linked to physiological symptoms, even if outwardly-invisible. Chemistry, people.

And problems associated with the body are often linked to psychological symptoms. It's all chemistry again. And the fact that there isn't any such thing as the 'mind' as a separate entity from the 'body'. They're one single mind-body 'thing' (damn, my brain's not working well at the moment - what's the word I'm looking for?).

But, cancer, hmm... maybe, to some extent, but I think the other factors (diet, pollution, genes, etc) have a more causative effect.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-06-28 05:37:05)

V1king wrote:

I thought I'd ask this question because of it's prevailance in society these days.  Yeah poor health is blamed for many of them like bowel, some lung related ones (smoking, etc..), some are genitic like breast, cervical, etc... but would you believe that the mind (Your brain) would play a contributing factor?  I firmly believe it does but not much scientific proof to state otherwise.  A lifestyle of stress, anxiety, depression, anger and so on surely must play a role in this and many other illnesses we suffer, especially cancer.

Maybe a trip to the shrink may solve many of these by changing how we react to the everyday trends of modern lifestyle as we know it and bring about a healthier future by acting early, whilst you're still healthy as we speak.

What do you think?

That's a "NO DUH" sort of question. Stress, both physical and mental, stresses your immune system. You should be able to see the direct correlation from there to cancer.

It's definitely not a mind disease.  I'm a cancer survivor...survived a rare bilateral retinal cancer when I was 2 years old, completely genetic as it was caused by the lower-left leg of my 13th chromosome being deformed/mutated.

Even in mind-over-matter studies, you just can't will your DNA to be perfect.  If cancer was a mind disease able to be cured by thought and lifestyle changes, then you'd be able to Will yourself to have different colored eyes; through positive thinking, you'd be able to will yourself to be taller and more attractive through no outside input at all.  There are many people I know who had completely healthy and positive lifestyles, just to be cut down by cancer randomly since it was written in their genes.

Non-genetic cancers can be prevented...and you can link non-genetic cancers directly to lifestyle; excessive drinking, excessive smoking, etc.  Determine what makes you do both of those and remove that reason from your life, and you won't get those particular forms of cancer.  Without anything short of screened treatments that catch genetic cancer early, or just gene therapy in general, you will not be able to stop genetic cancer through willpower alone.

i've always enjoyed thinking about how we can't will ourselves to physically change becasue we don't truly believe we can.  /interesting thought

Stingray24 wrote:

Stress certainly can cause health issues, but cancer most definitely is not a mind disease.  Here’s why I believe that.  My grandpa was the nicest person I’ve ever met and he walked 4-5 miles per day, never smoke, never chewed tobacco, never drank a drop of alcohol, and kept a healthy diet.  He was one of the healthiest people I’ve ever know and he died of liver cancer that spread to his pancreas at age 67.

yeah there is those cases. and also the fact that if you expose people to gamma rays they will probably get cancer whether they are happy or not.

Stingray24 wrote:

Stress certainly can cause health issues, but cancer most definitely is not a mind disease.  Here’s why I believe that.  My grandpa was the nicest person I’ve ever met and he walked 4-5 miles per day, never smoke, never chewed tobacco, never drank a drop of alcohol, and kept a healthy diet.  He was one of the healthiest people I’ve ever know and he died of liver cancer that spread to his pancreas at age 67.

Dudes this is why we must fight cancer.