fitz8402 wrote:
Obviously you have absolutely 0 comprehension of what exactly an infantryman has to be capable of. That being said their is really no point discussing this with somebody who is speaking from a position of ignorance.
You do realize this is the point I was making. Are you now in a position of ignorance also?fitz8402 wrote:
I dont deny that there are exceptions. I have never seen one though.
Look up the word ignorance you will be enlightened. And I wasnt saying that there were exceptions to my previous statements I was saying that not all females eek by on the miniimun standard. Saying that is justifaction for allowing them to serve in the infantry is quite the stretch.Kmarion wrote:
fitz8402 wrote:
Obviously you have absolutely 0 comprehension of what exactly an infantryman has to be capable of. That being said their is really no point discussing this with somebody who is speaking from a position of ignorance.You do realize this is the point I was making. Are you now in a position of ignorance also?fitz8402 wrote:
I dont deny that there are exceptions. I have never seen one though.
really? I found it pretty hot.lxcpikiman wrote:
that was a disturbing video
I see. You don't doubt they exist, you just think that those are who capable shouldn't be given the opportunity.fitz8402 wrote:
Look up the word ignorance you will be enlightened. And I wasnt saying that there were exceptions to my previous statements I was saying that not all females eek by on the miniimun standard. Saying that is justifaction for allowing them to serve in the infantry is quite the stretch.Kmarion wrote:
fitz8402 wrote:
Obviously you have absolutely 0 comprehension of what exactly an infantryman has to be capable of. That being said their is really no point discussing this with somebody who is speaking from a position of ignorance.You do realize this is the point I was making. Are you now in a position of ignorance also?fitz8402 wrote:
I dont deny that there are exceptions. I have never seen one though.
Females just don't pop out babies, the sperm's gotta come from somewhere...icecreamgod wrote:
excuse, but since when didn't spraying female marines in the eyes with pepper spray become part of basic training?!?!
On another note... I don't think women should fight on the front lines, because their physical requirementss are easier (if you make their standards easier, then any man that fufills a harder requirement would logically mean that they are more capable), the government would have to provide everything now for both genders, and I know this might sound stupid and somewhat sexist, but I see women (more oftenthan not) the better half of mankind (given mankind is seen as man and woman). I would not let anything that is responsible for the continuation of human life be slaughtered by corrupt nations and poor idealism. However, if they wish to seek combat, then they are just stupid. Infact any person looking for combat is dumb, but if a man/woman wishes to protect his or her country by serving, then so be it - just don't be pissed off when you realize what you are fighting for isn't always what you thought it was about. I am also not going to be the person to stop you from doing what you want.
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we're overpopulated as it is anywayPubic wrote:
If theres a big war and lots of frontline women get killed, future population growth will be way stunted.
In a nutshell the invesment would not yeild a significant enough return.Kmarion wrote:
I see. You don't doubt they exist, you just think that those are who capable shouldn't be given the opportunity.fitz8402 wrote:
Look up the word ignorance you will be enlightened. And I wasnt saying that there were exceptions to my previous statements I was saying that not all females eek by on the miniimun standard. Saying that is justifaction for allowing them to serve in the infantry is quite the stretch.Kmarion wrote:
You do realize this is the point I was making. Are you now in a position of ignorance also?fitz8402 wrote:
Obviously you have absolutely 0 comprehension of what exactly an infantryman has to be capable of. That being said their is really no point discussing this with somebody who is speaking from a position of ignorance.
WOW FINALLY SOMEBODY WHO CAN UNDERSTAND SIMPLE REASON. +1motherdear wrote:
i'm with fitz, i really don't think that it's worth the time, effort and money trying to educate a female soldier. okay maybe they can get around their period and serve as a proper soldier should, but the chances of having a succesfull female soldiers is much lower than of a male since he got 40% more muscle in his upperbody and 30% ind his lower body
http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/89/1/81
first of all girls got to catch up to this disadvantage and then their fellow soldiers have properly already gotten 20/30% more muscle than the awerage man, if not more. simply men can get more muscle than women so it makes no sense employing women who can't compete with a man if he did the same amount of training. it just cost to much money and it puts a stress on the womens fellow Boot camp grunts, because she will most likely have to getting her shit together when all the other lads already is far ahead of her. of course there can be exceptions but they are so rare that they are not worth looking for since you can get 10 men of the same build or higher than the woman at the same cost in recruitment and training.
This is exactly what I was talking about. They cant do it and others are forced to pick up the slack. I have experienced this same scenario more times than I care to say. This had nothing to do with physical strength either. It is simply another case of female issues.nonexistentusmc wrote:
Infantry is definitely not for everyone... even I will admit I am not cut out for 03, so I became a POG. I'm pretty sure there's a go-around when it comes to the monthly issue for females... but as mentioned above, the overall physical capability of a female is most likely less than a males. I guess emotional issues can be a big problem as well? And yes, females will become more exposed to combat as their availability in the field increases. We have a Motor-T driver in our unit who is a female and unfortunately, she wasn't feeling "too well" to drive. She got her ass chewed out, but she got out of what she was supposed to do. Not very good when it comes to the other Marines involved, especially the junior devils, bad example!
No worries, I still love you.nonexistentusmc wrote:
so I became a POG.
She's probably saying "Get back!", or something along those lines. That's what I had to say when I went through the course. Basically, you get sprayed so you know what it feels like, and overcome the pain and still be able to kick ass. Oh, and it was pepper spray.haffeysucks wrote:
What is she saying the whole time, and what did they spray in her eyes?
Unfortunately this country is run by a bunch of pc candyasses that the military is forced to answer to. Otherwise it wouldn't be a bad idea. BTW, I have no problem with women at all. I just dont think they belong in combat.DeadboyUSMC wrote:
She's probably saying "Get back!", or something along those lines. That's what I had to say when I went through the course. Basically, you get sprayed so you know what it feels like, and overcome the pain and still be able to kick ass. Oh, and it was pepper spray.haffeysucks wrote:
What is she saying the whole time, and what did they spray in her eyes?
I think it's time you wrote a letter to your command illustrating your dislike of female marines/ soldiers/ airmen/ sailors/ women in general fitz, show them the initiative you've demonstrated here on the outside world too! Hmm, promotion, or EO nightmare??
I'm sure the Constitution was written by a bunch of candy asses.fitz8402 wrote:
Unfortunately this country is run by a bunch of pc candyasses that the military is forced to answer to. Otherwise it wouldn't be a bad idea. BTW, I have no problem with women at all. I just dont think they belong in combat.
I also happen to believe men have no place in synchronized swimming. Does that mean I hate all men? Just a little food for thought.
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The MEN that wrote the constitution could never have imagined the metamorphosis our government has undergone.DeadboyUSMC wrote:
I'm sure the Constitution was written by a bunch of candy asses.fitz8402 wrote:
Unfortunately this country is run by a bunch of PC candyasses that the military is forced to answer to. Otherwise it wouldn't be a bad idea. BTW, I have no problem with women at all. I just dint think they belong in combat.
I also happen to believe men have no place in synchronized swimming. Does that mean I hate all men? Just a little food for thought.
So if you don't have an issue with women, why can't they be allowed to shoot a bad guy as much as you can? That statement is just a bit contradictory...