Thanatos247
100% Artillery Magnet
+3|7177|Derby, England
Hi gblanco. First let me say that I respect that you have said nothing on here to offend or retaliate against anyone even when faced with a lot of disrespectful comments. I wish there were more people like you on the forums.

I got the expert knife around December, and it was an absolute nightmare to get. I havent got a video to show you, however, I have got a number of tips that I put on a post to help everyone else get it without stat padding.

Here are the tips for you (from my knife post - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=6764)

1. Play on maps where the flags are close together. When you die it's closer to get to the enemy flags.
2. Be a spawn whore knifing git. Everyone will hate you, but you cant expect the enemy to approach you to let you knife them. Hang around the enemy spawn point, and if you see them, knife them.
3. Switch to knife. Dont be tempted by that "extra couple of points for a machine gun kill", you need to get knife kills not machine gun kills for the medal.
4. If you are spotted from a distance and get shot at, run off around a corner. Most people will see you running, assume you are about dead and run after you. Knife them when they turn the corner.
5. Play on a 32 player server. Unless you are Rambo, a 64 player server is too crowded and you will get mowed down, a 16 player server doesnt have enough knife fodder. This is personal choice, find what you are comfortable with.
6. If you are halfway through the round with 1 knife kill, dont bother. Switch back to your main weapon and enjoy the rest of the round because you arent going to get your medal.
7. Be devious. Hide around corners, sneak up behind people. Drive a jeep behind enemy lines and approach them from behind. Do things that people wouldnt expect. Running through an open space with a knife in your hand towards a four man squad armed with machine guns is not a good idea.
8. Be patient. Wait until that person you are running behind stops, get your knife aimed for their torso, and bam! Knife them.
9. You will get killed. Lots. Accept it and keep your cool.
10. Medic! I found it best playing a medic because you can get extra points by healing and reviving to keep your score up, keep your own health up, and you dont tire easily when giving chase.
11. Luck. Sometimes a combination of skill, luck and noobs will get you this medal. I knifed a guy, his mate came in and revived him, so I knifed both of them. A bit of luck like that gets you almost halfway to your basic / veteran medal.
12. Perseverance. If you are losing your cool, play a few rounds with the gun. Then swap back to knifing.
13. Knowledge. Know your maps and your spawn points. If you arent sure where people appear, and you dont know your way around the maps, it's going to be hell.
14. Head for where you think the front line is. It will be where most victims await your cold steel.
15. UAV is vital. If you have a good commander, he will be constantly plaving the UAV where the most enemy are. If you are also in that area, you can see where your next knife kill waits.
16. Watch where people are facing. The mini map is invaluable in this respect. If you run around a corner and someone is facing you with a machine gun, it's going to be painful. If you wait a few seconds until they turn around, chances are you are in for a knife kill.
17. Keep your cool. I already said this, but it's a definate one to keep at the front of your head. If you panic when you are in someones face with a knife, you will get shot. Remember that if someone comes up to you with a knife, you panic because you know it's one stab one kill (in most cases).
18. Spacial awareness. In close combat when you have been spotted, spacial awareness is key. If your enemy if running around trying to locate you, if you are more spacially aware than they are, the kill should be yours.
19. Bunny Hop. I'm probably going to get loads of grief from people for saying this, but it you are running across an open space towards someone, or giving chase across an open space, and they turn around... are you going to stand there and take a round of lead like a man, or are you going to do everything you can to close those last couple of feet and take them out with your knife.
20. Go on servers where the admins dont get miffed because you keep knife killing them and ban you. Oh yeah, I've been there.

Good luck, and my greatest respect for getting this without stat padding.
Badcow68
Member
+4|7151|Tucson, AZ
Some dont to you to know how they got it. But you know the way, bunny hop, dolphin dive, get commander and run arond using the UAV's for yourself. Then when others ask, you tell the how bad they are and that they have no skills. That is the experts' way...... But to show how to get into position and how to track others without ending up on the wrong end of the machine gun with a knife in your hand? That takes skill.

If only the knife was throwable? With a short range and able to be picked back up by walking over it.
maton
LAZY ZOMBIE
+-4|7204
bueno, disculpa si mal interprete tu mensage, pero mira si queres conseguir tu badge the cuchillo vas a tener que ser egoista (enfocarte solo en tu cuchillo)y tratar de mantener la serenidad en ese round (pues creo que no te va ser falta la serenidad ya que estas maduro) a mi me costo mucho mantenerme sereno y frio en el round que consegui mi expert badge. pero ya despues de que la consegui, matar con cuchillo se a hecho mas facil, e llegado a tener 13 knife kills en un round solo por el hecho de que se me an presentado las oportunides.
lo que te puedo aconsejar es que juegues como medico, asi te podes curar despues de una pelea, aparte de que tenes "stamina" mas larga
mapas como karkan,sharqi y devil's perch son bueno para este badge
si miras un monton de cadaveres de enemigosy un medico enemigo, quedate cerca y esperas a que el medico los reviva, asi vas a tener a merced tus enemigos y posiblemente el medico (el otro dia acuchille a casi toda una squad y el medico los revivio y los volvi a cuchillar)
por ultimo hay lugares como la torre de tv en sharqy donde hay un monton de snipers y tropas esperando el helicoptero, suve hasta arriva y no te detengas en la bandera, cuando estes arriva vas a ver las lineas de enemigos que se hacen y normalmente todos estan distraidos (en una ocacio acuhille 7 en ese lugar y de 3 a 4 en otras ocaciones) las primeras 100 knife kills son las mas dificiles, ya despues se vuelve mas facil,ya llevo 440 knife kills
ojala y te sirvan los consejos que te di.
jtorkbob
Member
+0|7092
The problem with Expert Knife (and a few others) is that to get it without stat padding, you probably have to:

1) Run around like a madman with your knife out. Which probably means that you're not helping your team.
or
2) Have the cooperation of your enemies (i.e. knife or knife/pistol round)

Me, I'm all about teamplay, and helping the team. Charging around all round long with a knife out is not very nice to the people on your team who are trying to have a serious round, and already have to deal with idlers, sniper whores, plane whores, and general suckage. Ah, maybe I take this too seriously.

Really, though, should the badge reward overall good use of the weapon? There are only two times you should tap that '1' key, when you find a camper with his back to you (and even that is a bit greedy) and when you are in close quarters and out of rifle ammo.
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7261|Deutschland/Germany
I now tried it once and got a demo with me getting ~+-30 knife kills IAR. Does anyone know where i can upload it? Its 12 MB

NOW PLZ KISS MY FEET AND SAY THANK YOU ALMIGHTY ARMAGEDDON!!!!
gblanco
Viva Mexico
+15|7188

ArMaG3dD0n wrote:

I now tried it once and got a demo with me getting ~+-30 knife kills IAR. Does anyone know where i can upload it? Its 12 MB

NOW PLZ KISS MY FEET AND SAY THANK YOU ALMIGHTY ARMAGEDDON!!!!
Try this.

http://www.filefactory.com/upload/
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7261|Deutschland/Germany
Estimated time left: 00:08:05
Transfer rate: 17KB/s

I tested the demo just to be sure its the right one. But i couldnt figure out how to bring up a scoreboard. I think i also couldnt get into first person view but i only tested it for 1 min so.....
AdamEcks
Member
+1|7129|Canada, Eh.
Thank you ArMaG3dD0n for putting this to rest. I hope that you provide enough "proof" that you can do it without padding. as for ibfr33k, there was no disrespect intended directly to you, merely your way of getting the badge. And for those stats of mine you posted, they mean nothing without examining the rest of my stats. By examining yours I see that you have been medic A LOT more than me, that makes a pretty big difference right there. I have more helicopter time as well, normally I fly, right there is an example where playing time doesnt really help my kill count and stuff. Stats as close as ours cannot be compared. espicially since (go ahead an call me a liar i don't care) I have a friend who has played a good set of hours on my account who isn't nearly as good as me. So on this account there were TWO people that had to learn how to play, not just one.

And jtorkbob, running around like a madman is how must people get the badge, but you CAN help your team when doing so. I had a KD ration of around 1.5 and captured several flags by myself when I got my expert knife.

And like someone else said gblanco, had you just asked I likely would have gone and tried to do it just for something to do with my time. You definately sounded like you were claiming if you couldnt do it legit then no one could.

Anyway, ArMaG3dD0n just needs to post the video to prove that you don't have to cheat to get this badge.

Last edited by AdamEcks (2006-01-27 13:31:00)

ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7261|Deutschland/Germany
While you are waiting some of my favourite screenshots I took during the round:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/164/screen0160uk.jpg
Scoreboard at the end. Got silver with knife only.......

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8687 … 0153kl.jpg
look into the top left corner I just knifed 3 ppl......Messer = Knife
AdamEcks
Member
+1|7129|Canada, Eh.

ArMaG3dD0n wrote:

While you are waiting some of my favourite screenshots I took during the round:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/164/screen0160uk.jpg
Scoreboard at the end. Got silver with knife only.......
Very good proof that you can contribute while using knife:)
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7261|Deutschland/Germany
Please note that it may take up to 5 minutes for your file to be distributed between our download servers

Your download url:
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f= … eadaf59ca7

Thats it! This should prove some things...
As you can see I didnt really try THAT hard to get my knife kills I even capped some flags. If I remember correct lyI got 2 non-knife kills 1 TOW and 1 sniper. If you watch closely this can be pretty comical....I thought it was funny how I knifed some groups of ppl, how I m getting t00bed and am not able to knife hopping ppl + how a medic walks right past my dead body without caring + how I get Tked trying to knife someone....damn I would have got that one.

Does anyone know how to see the scoreboard in demos or how to get first person view?

Last edited by ArMaG3dD0n (2006-01-27 13:43:04)

ibfr33k
Member
+5|7252
I would like to mention that a couple of good tactics of knifing will probably be removed from gameplay when the new patch is released.  The ability to knife while in the air (diving at people) will not be possible.  . The other thing that would also be harder to do when the patch is released is the ability to instantly go prone and knife the leg or foot for an easy kill.  They are going to slow down the proning process. So some of the players which are wanting the knife badge, will lose those advantages.

Sorry for being off topic.
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7261|Deutschland/Germany
Pretty much at the beginning I m trying to knife someone near the western TOW next to the bunker when a friendly Vodnik comes along and stops EXACTLY BLOCKING MY DAMNED WAY and I end u being killed by a gren
BF2 can be funny...

Lol just saw the best part when some guy (something like GAsens203) lands on me with his parachute ----> I m dead


Does the link work? did anyone see it yet?

Last edited by ArMaG3dD0n (2006-01-27 14:08:57)

[swe]lloyd
Member
+0|7114
This is to u 2 guys that gave download links to how u got the xprt knife badges: DANG u rule!

Awesome - respect!
gblanco
Viva Mexico
+15|7188
Thank you very much ArMaG3dD0n.
This is what I needed.
I really enjoyed the file watching you in action.
BWAG
Results May Vary
+10|7218|Michigan
I downloaded it but what player will open it?
gblanco
Viva Mexico
+15|7188
You need to put this file in:

My Documents>Battlefield 2>Profiles>Default>demos>

Then inside BF2 goto community and play the file.


Battlefield 2: BattleRecorder

The following commands can be used to control the game replay and camera in a recorded demo. (Note: the term "Demo" depicts the recording itself)

Q – opens the Playback Rose. Move the mouse to highlight the desired playback option and press the Left Mouse Button to select. Options available here that are not bound to separate keys include "Restart" and "Quit".
T – opens the Camera Rose. Choose the camera option or cycle through the available players.
1 – Pause the playback (also available in the Playback Rose).
2 – Playback recorded session at normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
3 – Playback recorded session at 5% of normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
4 – Playback recorded session at 25% of normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
5 – Playback recorded session at 50% of normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
6 – Playback recorded session at normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
7 – Playback recorded session at 150% of normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
8 – Playback recorded session at 300% of normal speed (also available in the Playback Rose).
Spacebar – cycle between players.
Right Mouse Button – cycle between free camera and player camera.
Mouse wheel – zoom camera in and out when locked onto a player.
W, A, S, D, Ctrl and Shift – move free camera around map, forward, left, backwards, right, down and up.
Mouse look – aim free camera.

Last edited by gblanco (2006-01-27 15:07:38)

BWAG
Results May Vary
+10|7218|Michigan
Ok, I didnt know where to put it, thanks!
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7261|Deutschland/Germany
Change players with space or through the menu u get with "T".
You can adjust the speed with 1-9.
Slow motion is great sometimes
F.Rabshaw
Member
+37|7108
why would I bother doing anything for a jerk like you? You come on here and try and demand this crap or accuse us of padding. lol. What a joke.

PS- Not every sentence ends with a question mark.
gblanco
Viva Mexico
+15|7188

F.Rabshaw wrote:

why would I bother doing anything for a jerk like you? You come on here and try and demand this crap or accuse us of padding. lol. What a joke.

PS- Not every sentence ends with a question mark.
Thank you very much for the file ArMaG3dD0n.
F.Rabshaw
Member
+37|7108

gblanco wrote:

F.Rabshaw wrote:

why would I bother doing anything for a jerk like you? You come on here and try and demand this crap or accuse us of padding. lol. What a joke.

PS- Not every sentence ends with a question mark.
Thank you very much for the file ArMaG3dD0n.
I always end up dealing with the idiots... Maybe you didnt notice that I said "Why would I", not anyone else. I still can't believe anyone responded nicely to such a rude request. You look like the ultimate idiot when you think something is impossible to get just because you can't get it.
gblanco
Viva Mexico
+15|7188

Thanatos247 wrote:

Hi gblanco. First let me say that I respect that you have said nothing on here to offend or retaliate against anyone even when faced with a lot of disrespectful comments. I wish there were more people like you on the forums.
Thanks Thanatos.
Same to you.
and Thanks for the tips.
You made a friend.
gblanco
Viva Mexico
+15|7188

F.Rabshaw wrote:

I always end up dealing with the idiots... Maybe you didnt notice that I said "Why would I", not anyone else. I still can't believe anyone responded nicely to such a rude request. You look like the ultimate idiot when you think something is impossible to get just because you can't get it.
What causes violence?
Why do some children hit or bite?
And how do sweet little babies turn into gun-carrying gang members, murderers, and terrorists?

There are two basic conditions that produce violent tendencies in human beings.

One condition is that the person has been hurt.

The second basic condition is less well understood. The person has not been allowed to release the emotions resulting from the hurts.

To conclude, children who act violently are always suffering from painful emotions.

Is this your case ?

Have a nice day !!!!!.

Last edited by gblanco (2006-01-27 16:59:21)

Thanatos247
100% Artillery Magnet
+3|7177|Derby, England

gblanco wrote:

Thanatos247 wrote:

Hi gblanco. First let me say that I respect that you have said nothing on here to offend or retaliate against anyone even when faced with a lot of disrespectful comments. I wish there were more people like you on the forums.
Thanks Thanatos.
Same to you.
and Thanks for the tips.
You made a friend.
No probs man, wish you the best of luck with the knifing. It's one of the best parts of the game

Happy hunting.


Thanatos

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