JG1567JG
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A woman was killed by her own dog Sunday evening in my hometown.  I didn't know the women but her son is good friends with my brother. I haven't had a chance to talk to my brother about this yet, so I am lacking information in the details. Small Article Here

What I was wondering is what people thought about certain breeds of dogs and their tendency to bite or attack unprovoked.  Here in the U.S. certain breeds have a really bad name when it comes to dog attacks on humans.  These breeds mostly being Pitbulls, Rottweilers, Chow Chow.
I really want to know if people think that certain breeds are bad in general or if it is all in how the animal was raised, or possibly both.
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GunSlinger OIF II
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dog breeding is a racialist hobby.
Cybargs
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I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
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lavadisk
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Your comparing human beings with animals. Black people are smarter than dogs.
Gawwad
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lavadisk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Your comparing human beings with animals. Black people are smarter than dogs.
lavadisk
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Gawwad wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Your comparing human beings with animals. Black people are smarter than dogs.
passh... political correctness... I'm white and I didnt call them 'the N word' (and I aloud to say it in cases like these on the forums?).

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sursparxalot
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dogs bite people ....

pits rots and chows are great dogs , but they have a tendency to bite.... my chow mix has bitten but he was kinda provoked...

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JG1567JG
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Gawwad wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Your comparing human beings with animals. Black people are smarter than dogs.
One of the best posts I have ever seen +1

Are Certain breeds more prone to attack unprovoked.  Sure some breeds are more dangerous since a toy poodle can do me very little harm compared to a Rottweiler but I have been around many Rotts that I felt I was less likely to get bit by than some poodles and small dogs.
GunSlinger OIF II
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lavadisk wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

Your comparing human beings with animals. Black people are smarter than dogs.
passh... political correctness... I'm white and I didnt call them 'the N word' (and I aloud to say it in cases like these on the forums?).
you are still referring to a group of people as if they were a different species, just like dog breeders think that certain traits and behaviors are predictable because of the breed of dog.

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lavadisk
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

Gawwad wrote:


passh... political correctness... I'm white and I didnt call them 'the N word' (and I aloud to say it in cases like these on the forums?).
you are still referring to a group of people as if they were a different species, just like dog breeders think that certain traits and behaviors are predictable because of the breed of dog.
My post where I said (omg) 'black people' I was saying that it's dumb to compare human beings to animals. Because they were referring specifically to African Americans I don't see the harm in using it in my reply.
Lucien
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Find all dogs with attribute X. breed. for generation after generation. Voila, new type of dog. all have attribute X.

Send humans to live on another continent for a few millenia. voila, different skin color.


I cannot believe that some people here are unable to see that there are clear differences between breeds of dogs, as opposed to different skin colors amongst humans. Please, stay away from D&ST
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JG1567JG
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

Gawwad wrote:


passh... political correctness... I'm white and I didnt call them 'the N word' (and I aloud to say it in cases like these on the forums?).
you are still referring to a group of people as if they were a different species, just like dog breeders think that certain traits and behaviors are predictable because of the breed of dog.
Do you think that a breed of dog that was somewhat developed as a guard/attack dog (i.e. Rottweiler) would be more prone to attack compared to a dog that was developed to aid man (i.e. St bernard)?  Retrievers are bread to love the water and to fetch things.
lavadisk
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Who are you referring to? Me or cyborg?

I was trying to say that his comparison was wrong.

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GunSlinger OIF II
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lavadisk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Who are you referring to? Me or cyborg?

I was trying to say that his comparison was wrong.
fair enough but you got awfully defensive and made an effort to point out that you didnt use the "N word"...why even make a statement like that?
Inspect@hDeck
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I've heared from more than one reputable breeders that a dogs personality traits -including the probability to bite are 90% training and 10% hereditary. I have two PB's now (despite them being banned where I live, lulz) and they get along great with everything. My friend has a Jack Russel and a Rottweiler, and his dogs are INSANE, they attack anything and everything, which is greatly attributed to poor training.
CoronadoSEAL
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so we went from dog breeding/attacking tendencies to stereotyping/classing humans into (sub)categories in < 20 posts...
lavadisk
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

I think it's how well you train it. It's like saying black people are bad because they're black, same concept.
Who are you referring to? Me or cyborg?

I was trying to say that his comparison was wrong.
fair enough but you got awfully defensive and made an effort to point out that you didnt use the "N word"...why even make a statement like that?
Cause nobody can get over how awful that word is without it being used. I find it funny that its ok to call somebody the "N word" if your black african american and you use it in your music.

But thats beside the point. Im making this thread off topic. That's what I was thinking and I probably shouldn't have put those two ideas together in the same post.
Yaocelotl
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Altough dogs and people are not the same, if you don't educate them properly they'll behave the same way when they are older.
JG1567JG
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Inspect@hDeck wrote:

I've heared from more than one reputable breeders that a dogs personality traits -including the probability to bite are 90% training and 10% hereditary. I have two PB's now (despite them being banned where I live, lulz) and they get along great with everything. My friend has a Jack Russel and a Rottweiler, and his dogs are INSANE, they attack anything and everything, which is greatly attributed to poor training.
A friend of mine from work has a couple of Pitbulls and they are as friendly as can be.
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
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Inspect@hDeck wrote:

the probability to bite are 90% training and 10% hereditary.
Interesting.  I think Imma change my opinion on this whole bread thing.
jord
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My auntie had a Rottweiler and it was very friendly, i was around it when i was 8 and it was playful. In the end they asked her if she'd let the police have it and it went to dog school. Only it failed because it just clowned around and was pretty useless.

She has an Afghan hound now.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6695|Espoo, Finland

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

lavadisk wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

passh... political correctness... I'm white and I didnt call them 'the N word' (and I aloud to say it in cases like these on the forums?).
you are still referring to a group of people as if they were a different species, just like dog breeders think that certain traits and behaviors are predictable because of the breed of dog.
My point exactly.

Edit: I don't find the word 'Black' racist. It's a descriptive word which I use for black people, just like I use white.

Last edited by Gawwad (2007-06-18 10:34:55)

mr.hrundi
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i think the most important role is played by the training of the dog. the quality of the training depends on the dog's owner.

so as long as such dogs which might have some natural aggression can be bought without any restrictions, the risk that a person who is not qualified will get such a dog. and the you have the problem.
Marlboroman82
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My pittbull is a big baby, really depends on how you treat and handle the animal. obviously the kennel your get your pup from makes a difference as well. I don't believe that my is inherently dangerous just because it is a pittbull. She has been raised right and I could never fathom here attacking someone. It is the owners responsibility to control the actions of his dog. if he doesn't treat the animal right or train it right and the dog lashes out, is that the dogs fault?
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