BF2S Forums $4.38/gallon before United States citizens change gasoline habit

Why don't we use some of that sugar cane oil stuff like Brazil does?  It's environmentally friendly and now makes up close to half of Brazil's national profit for sale of fuels.

Or maybe they could take some better action of implementing E85.  Though E85 seems somewhat impractical because only domestic engines support it, and even then GM is pretty much the only one that supports it.  There's also hardly any gas stations that have E85 pumps.  I haven't seen one yet and they've supposedly been popping up since like 2004.

Harmor wrote:

Some people in the Green movement believe we should impose a $1.00/gallon gas tax to 'encourage' alternative fuels.

Which would still be cheaper than maintenance for a hybrid. That tax idea is ridiculous, because you're basically going to offer people two super-expensive choices, and they're going to stick with what they already have.

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Stingray24 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Those sound like great ideas to me.

Our corn crops could be somewhat converted to ethanol production -- that would help as well.

Already happening.  Ethanol 45 minutes from my house making it from corn.

Good to know...  We also need to harness wind power in more areas as well as nuclear and solar power.

In addition to this, we need to implement stricter emission standards on power plants.

Ethanol and vegetable oil is going to be a bad fuel source in the future because the farmers basically have control over the economy. They can raise the prices how ever much they want and companies will have to buy it like the stupid gas companies now. Hydrogen powered cars is the way to go.

The#1Spot wrote:

Ethanol and vegetable oil is going to be a bad fuel source in the future because the farmers basically have control over the economy. They can raise the prices how ever much they want and companies will have to buy it like the stupid gas companies now. Hydrogen powered cars is the way to go.

I trust farmers and agribusiness far more than I trust energy companies and Big Oil.

That being said, ethanol is a great transitional fuel source, but yes, it's not the end-all be-all solution.

Nuclear, solar, wind, geothermal, and hydroelectric power are all great alternatives as well.

_j5689_ wrote:

Why don't we use some of that sugar cane oil stuff like Brazil does?  It's environmentally friendly and now makes up close to half of Brazil's national profit for sale of fuels.

Or maybe they could take some better action of implementing E85.  Though E85 seems somewhat impractical because only domestic engines support it, and even then GM is pretty much the only one that supports it.  There's also hardly any gas stations that have E85 pumps.  I haven't seen one yet and they've supposedly been popping up since like 2004.

I don't think large scale Biofuel production works out any better than fossil fuel use. But at least is a step away from dependence on oil.

RAVAGE wrote:

Private vehicle is one of the biggest pollutants, at the same time its "usefulness" to economic growth is one of the smallest.

Read it: Public transportation: good, like Europe.

Well......

Public transportation is indeed good, if you live somewhere it is viable. I live 25 miles from where I work. There is no public transportation from my city to Little Rock. So, you have to drive.

And, no one here has mentioned the fact that the US depends on trucks to transport our goods. Any rise in fuel prices gets passed immeadiatly along to the customer.

konfusion wrote:

Put a higher tax on cars... Wouldn't that work?

-konfusion

No

Spark wrote:

Harmor wrote:

What is LPG?  Low Polluting Gas?

What?! You don't even know what LPG is?!

My god.

Here in the US, it's called propane, or natural gas. The only place you might see LPG is on a train car or a ship in port.