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2006-01-25 15:16:46
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6946
The “Family Media Guide” has released a list of the 10 most “ultra-violent” videogames as a service for parents who would otherwise have no way to tell what games to purchase for their children.

This amazing feat could only be accomplished by “utilizing a proprietary audit process… employing approximately 4000 rules and algorithms governing millions of potential rule combinations” working in tandem to “generate an objective rating, superior to the existing ESRB” rating. Amazing… how many games have been ignored by the ESRB, only now to get called out by this breakthrough system:



    Resident Evil 4
    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    God of War
    Narc
    Killer 7
    The Warriors
    50 Cent: Bulletproof
    Crime Life: Gang Wars
    Condemned: Criminal Origins
    True Crime: New York City



It strikes this blogger as odd that every single title in this list has already been rated M, which according to the “ineffective” ESRB means these games “have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content, and/or strong language.”



How much more help could parents need when there’s already an apparently accurate rating on the box, and every single title presented above includes the words evil, war/warriors, killer, bulletproof, crime, criminal, narc(otics), and of course grand theft auto in the name itself?


The family media guide has spoken dont buy these violent games theres no way parents would know there bad!

With names such as Resident "Evil" , "Grand theft auto" , God of "War" , "Narc" , "Killer 7" , The "Warriors" , 50 cent "bulletproof" , Condemned "Criminal" orgins , True "Crime" New york city.

Now if parents cant get the hint that games such as these with titles like above  that are "violent" then they have a lower mentality then there children and shoudnt be parents in the first place come on how dumb are you?

Parents just dont care and let kids do or play anything they want then when there son of daughter runs some one over with the car wile they were sleeping or swallos a whole jar of pills thinking there jelly beans and powerups they blame videogames

Remember that idiot that killed the cops and said it was cause of GTA "life is a videogame you're gonna die some time" haha what an idiot and of course yes here it is hes frommmmmmmm

the U.S.A bahaha.

Ok just kidding but its true so discuss
2006-01-25 15:24:03
atlvolunteer
PKMMMMMMMMMM
+27|7029|Atlanta, GA USA
LOL just goes to show how ignorant some people are!
Now if parents cant get the hint that games such as these with titles like above  that are "violent" then they have a lower mentality then there children and shoudnt be parents in the first place come on how dumb are you?
That is classic!
2006-01-25 15:26:54
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7101|Alberta, Canada

screw that lol.
2006-01-25 15:30:56
=ST6=SewerMaster
AK Whore
+152|7054|Barrington, RI
there are all sorts of these hype groups looking to put a strangle hold on the gaming industry because they feel that games such as these corrupt the youth that play them.  if you can't be bothered to flip the box over and read why it's rated Mature and instead need this group to show you what games are suitable then you have no busniess buying games in the first place.  there's one group that says the ESRB system is too confusing and instead wants to use a much stricter "Traffic Light" color coded system because they feel that a red traffic light is going to say "This is a violent game for mature people" better then a sticker that says ESRB rated M for Mature 17+ and will be instantly understood by parents.  give me a break.  the system works so if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Last edited by =ST6=SewerMaster (2006-01-25 15:31:58)

2006-01-25 15:31:29
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6946
oops forgot the link here it is.


http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/26/dont- … ent-games/

haha read some of the users comments.

Last edited by Berserk_Vampire (2006-01-25 15:32:21)

2006-01-25 15:32:21
Nomer
Member
+10|6957|North of Boston
Was the GTA guy mentally usntable and the excuse just the work of some shady lawyer/creative legal team? or was it like that time a guy who was mentally unstable tried to kill Reagan (the president at the time) and blamed it on jodie foster and taxi driver?
2006-01-25 15:34:20
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6946
lol i dont know i forget the whole story but something like the kid grabbed the police officers gun out of his holster and shot two cops in the head or something like that they said he knew how to use the gun because videogames  taught him or some shit like that i think lol.
2006-01-25 15:46:05
dankassasin42o
Member
+68|6937|Reefersyde, CA
thanks for the top ten to buy guys.   FUCK PUSSY ASS CONSERVITIVE CHRISTENS TRYING TO FUCK UP MY GAMES.   Ill bitch slap both hillary bitch clinton and bitch prez bush.
2006-01-25 15:53:41
[BambiKillerz]Brian
Member
+1|6962
screw that lol
who gives a shit as long as the game is alsome i personly like the GTA series
2006-01-25 17:10:04
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6946
Well i think GTA is getting pretty stale i thought San Andreas was crap i still like the third one the best although Tommy Vercetti was the best character i couldnt stand C.J from San Andreas.
2006-01-25 17:44:23
WormGuts
Member
+17|7052|Dayton, Ohio
a 14 year old boy in the dayton area lived with his mother (divorced parents).  his mother bought him GTA because the boy had been asking for it for several monthes, she finally caved in.  after several monthes of playing the game for a few hours a day, the boy and four of his friends stole a car and went on a joyride in the country.  the 14 year old, having troubles reaching the pedals, lost control of the vehicle at when it hit a bump in the road at 90 mph.  the car left the road rolled several times and slammed into a tree, roof first.  the 14 year old driver got out of the car and fled the scene of the accident, but not before putting one of his friends behind the wheel.  his 4 friends died.  two weeks later the boy was caught.  he is now being tried as an adult.

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Well i think GTA is getting pretty stale i thought San Andreas was crap i still like the third one the best although Tommy Vercetti was the best character i couldnt stand C.J from San Andreas.
the bottom line is ANY of these games and ones similar to them have the ability to have a massive impact on the impressionable minds of our youth.  serious consideration, and monitering during play, should go into purchasing such a game for a young person.  i know that games are not the only culprits to behavioral problems in youth, but they sure don't make it any easier on parents.
2006-01-25 18:10:53
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7033|Noizyland

Parents who take time to join groups to identify violent games, (which have already been identified as violent/not-okay for younger people,) are the same type who prevent their kids from climbing trees, or running around corners at school because they may get a scratch or a bruise or, god forbid, a broken bone. These parents are the type who unintentionally harm their children. They don't like their childeren coming to harm.

A good, although obtuse example of this is in "Finding Nemo" The dad, Marlin, says to the comic-relief character, Dory, that he "promised (he'd,) never let anything happen to him." Dory, the dumb one, says, "Well that's a silly thing to promise. Than nothing would happen to him ever."  I am glad that I spent my youth climbing trees, and running around at school playtimes. I'm glad that I grazed my elbows, I'm thankful that I got covered in bruises and was at risk of breaking bones. I'm glad my Dad told me gruffly to "Get up you dumb bastard and play the game," when I fell over while playing soccer and stayed down to earn sympathy points.

Parents who coat their kids in cotton-wool, (metaphoricly,) are harming their kids. it's no way to view the real world, in the real world, bad thingsa happen.  Eventually, we're doomed to turn over the reins of power when we too get old to a generation of peope who are literally "girly-men," (thank you Arnie,) who can't break a nail or get a paper cut without worrying about the long term effects on them physically and mentally.

Parents need to learn how to protect their kids properly. If a young impressionable kid get's their hands on a copy of GTA, or other violent games, (or movies or anything,) it is the parents duty not to ban their kids seeing/playing these games, but to imform them. Teach them that it isn't right to steal stuff, or pursue a glorified life of crime, (ala 50 Cent.) It's the same with firearms. The correct thing to do is teach your kids about them, not shutting the gun away and hope they'll never find it. You know that eventually the kid will be exposed to violence, crime, swearing, and pain, and the way to face these things is to be educated, not oblivious or ignorant.
[Blinking eyes thing]
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2006-01-25 18:15:09
joker8baller
Member
+68|6925
I'm going to have to agree/disagree with you on this one. It has a MASSIVE impact on minds of people who are MENTALLY unstable. My friends and I play these games all the time, but I don't have violent streaks in my nature. See, divorced kids or neglected kids are so much more easier to have an impact on, because they believe nothing's going good with them or anything. That life sucks. I mean gosh, why would you need monitoring, sure games might be a bloody these days, but they're widely liked because they're fun. They appeal to our "instincts" These are the games that are known, and many have won gaming awards. Face it, daily life is getting more violent every day. It's not JUST videogames, and it's not many kids. There's always one kid that ruins it all. Myspace suicide. Idiots shooting randomly people with paintball guns. GTA freaks that don't realize you can't do that in real life. It's not the games fault, it's their brain and how they were raised.

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Hm, Why do we need to have more rules. It's settled, most of the games out there that many people play are rated M for mature, yet many kids play them. Why? Because they're FUN. Get over it, if a parent knowingly buys a kid an M rated game, it's not like it's something to complain about. How can you stop kids from playing a M rated game? Is their a way? CS: one of the most popular games is rated M. Videogames are the common scapegoat today, when soceity turns bad, we turn to the first things we can see, and that would be kids playing video games. Seriously, as if it's gonna change anything. Halo CE was an awesome game, and we had 6 year olds playing it. Just recently on 60 minutes, it starred a boy (7?) who was less then 10 year old, winning over THOUSANDS of dollars by playing an M rated game. Face it, the video game industry is not to blame. Look at the people who blame video games, it's way to easy, because no one looks at the movies/and everyday TV we watch and see it's even worse at times. The video game industry is growing fast, the league of E-sports is rising. M rated games are a thing of the past, as everyone plays them.

Oh and isn't Bulletproof not a glorfied life of crime, but how hard it was on the streets to get where he was today? It's a horrible game though =\

Why in the world would you want to boycott this. I still don't get it. If you would like to boycott videogames, please post here and tell me your POV

Last edited by joker8baller (2006-01-25 18:40:15)

2006-01-25 18:48:25
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|6952|San Francisco
Wormguts, unfortunately that style of story is what these "family" groups are using as ammunition against the game companies.  They fail to notice that while one kid played GTA and then caused the death of four of his friends, the tens of thousands of the other gamers who have played GTA Haven't done so. 

We are proof.  We've all played violent games, and yet here we are, unscathed and not attacking each other with guns and artillery.  Perhaps an anti-family group organization is in order, much like the Flying Spaghetti Monster was created to battle intelligent design.  Gamers from around the nation to get together to inform parents about the ESRB, or better yet, to just get parents more involved in the playing of the games.
2006-01-25 18:53:35
joker8baller
Member
+68|6925
OMG. I loved the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Well my clan for BF 2 are mainly 18+  age so... they know about it ^^
2006-01-25 18:57:11
supa_fly52
Save a Mouse, Eat a Pussy
+8|7013|Gold Coast, Australia
Postal 2 is more violent than all of them, it was banned in Australia and i have a copy of it .
Look it up on google.
2006-01-25 22:58:06
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6946

WormGuts wrote:

a 14 year old boy in the dayton area lived with his mother (divorced parents).  his mother bought him GTA because the boy had been asking for it for several monthes, she finally caved in.  after several monthes of playing the game for a few hours a day, the boy and four of his friends stole a car and went on a joyride in the country.  the 14 year old, having troubles reaching the pedals, lost control of the vehicle at when it hit a bump in the road at 90 mph.  the car left the road rolled several times and slammed into a tree, roof first.  the 14 year old driver got out of the car and fled the scene of the accident, but not before putting one of his friends behind the wheel.  his 4 friends died.  two weeks later the boy was caught.  he is now being tried as an adult.

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Well i think GTA is getting pretty stale i thought San Andreas was crap i still like the third one the best although Tommy Vercetti was the best character i couldnt stand C.J from San Andreas.
the bottom line is ANY of these games and ones similar to them have the ability to have a massive impact on the impressionable minds of our youth.  serious consideration, and monitering during play, should go into purchasing such a game for a young person.  i know that games are not the only culprits to behavioral problems in youth, but they sure don't make it any easier on parents.
I dont belive it its just simply theres something wrong with the kid / person i been playing them since i was little and i never wanted to go out and steal cars or chop people up.
2006-01-26 07:53:55
atlvolunteer
PKMMMMMMMMMM
+27|7029|Atlanta, GA USA

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

WormGuts wrote:

a 14 year old boy in the dayton area lived with his mother (divorced parents).  his mother bought him GTA because the boy had been asking for it for several monthes, she finally caved in.  after several monthes of playing the game for a few hours a day, the boy and four of his friends stole a car and went on a joyride in the country.  the 14 year old, having troubles reaching the pedals, lost control of the vehicle at when it hit a bump in the road at 90 mph.  the car left the road rolled several times and slammed into a tree, roof first.  the 14 year old driver got out of the car and fled the scene of the accident, but not before putting one of his friends behind the wheel.  his 4 friends died.  two weeks later the boy was caught.  he is now being tried as an adult.

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Well i think GTA is getting pretty stale i thought San Andreas was crap i still like the third one the best although Tommy Vercetti was the best character i couldnt stand C.J from San Andreas.
the bottom line is ANY of these games and ones similar to them have the ability to have a massive impact on the impressionable minds of our youth.  serious consideration, and monitering during play, should go into purchasing such a game for a young person.  i know that games are not the only culprits to behavioral problems in youth, but they sure don't make it any easier on parents.
I dont belive it its just simply theres something wrong with the kid / person i been playing them since i was little and i never wanted to go out and steal cars or chop people up.
Not to mention the fact that punkass 14 yr olds were stealing cars before GTA...
2006-01-26 08:03:59
tF-voodoochild
Pew Pew!
+216|7106|San Francisco

Marconius wrote:

We are proof.  We've all played violent games, and yet here we are, unscathed and not attacking each other with guns and artillery.
I know where you live! *spawn rpg* HERE COMES VOODOO!
2006-01-26 08:34:14
Colonel Curly
Member
+0|6992

Tyferra wrote:

Parents who take time to join groups to identify violent games, (which have already been identified as violent/not-okay for younger people,) are the same type who prevent their kids from climbing trees, or running around corners at school because they may get a scratch or a bruise or, god forbid, a broken bone. These parents are the type who unintentionally harm their children. They don't like their childeren coming to harm.

A good, although obtuse example of this is in "Finding Nemo" The dad, Marlin, says to the comic-relief character, Dory, that he "promised (he'd,) never let anything happen to him." Dory, the dumb one, says, "Well that's a silly thing to promise. Than nothing would happen to him ever."  I am glad that I spent my youth climbing trees, and running around at school playtimes. I'm glad that I grazed my elbows, I'm thankful that I got covered in bruises and was at risk of breaking bones. I'm glad my Dad told me gruffly to "Get up you dumb bastard and play the game," when I fell over while playing soccer and stayed down to earn sympathy points.

Parents who coat their kids in cotton-wool, (metaphoricly,) are harming their kids. it's no way to view the real world, in the real world, bad thingsa happen.  Eventually, we're doomed to turn over the reins of power when we too get old to a generation of peope who are literally "girly-men," (thank you Arnie,) who can't break a nail or get a paper cut without worrying about the long term effects on them physically and mentally.

Parents need to learn how to protect their kids properly. If a young impressionable kid get's their hands on a copy of GTA, or other violent games, (or movies or anything,) it is the parents duty not to ban their kids seeing/playing these games, but to imform them. Teach them that it isn't right to steal stuff, or pursue a glorified life of crime, (ala 50 Cent.) It's the same with firearms. The correct thing to do is teach your kids about them, not shutting the gun away and hope they'll never find it. You know that eventually the kid will be exposed to violence, crime, swearing, and pain, and the way to face these things is to be educated, not oblivious or ignorant.
True true, i totally agree with you.
Good explaination for those not too well informed in this area.
2006-01-26 15:24:35
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6946

atlvolunteer wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

WormGuts wrote:

a 14 year old boy in the dayton area lived with his mother (divorced parents).  his mother bought him GTA because the boy had been asking for it for several monthes, she finally caved in.  after several monthes of playing the game for a few hours a day, the boy and four of his friends stole a car and went on a joyride in the country.  the 14 year old, having troubles reaching the pedals, lost control of the vehicle at when it hit a bump in the road at 90 mph.  the car left the road rolled several times and slammed into a tree, roof first.  the 14 year old driver got out of the car and fled the scene of the accident, but not before putting one of his friends behind the wheel.  his 4 friends died.  two weeks later the boy was caught.  he is now being tried as an adult.


the bottom line is ANY of these games and ones similar to them have the ability to have a massive impact on the impressionable minds of our youth.  serious consideration, and monitering during play, should go into purchasing such a game for a young person.  i know that games are not the only culprits to behavioral problems in youth, but they sure don't make it any easier on parents.
I dont belive it its just simply theres something wrong with the kid / person i been playing them since i was little and i never wanted to go out and steal cars or chop people up.
Not to mention the fact that punkass 14 yr olds were stealing cars before GTA...
Yeah but those were the 14 year old black kids doing it before GTA came out then white kids started doing it after GTA was released.

j/k
2006-05-01 18:31:27
kingusjordanus
Member
+16|6904|my dads balls
yeah, i only read the first few posts, but i played most of those games, or at least the earlier titles of the same series, and resident evil 4, is always in my gamecube, and ive finished it at least 9 times,  you dont see me going to spain and killing everyone that speaks spanish because i saw it in a video game.  give me a break, if these people are actually trying to say that people killed other people because of a video game, they should be commited, guns were created before video games (last time i checked) so, it has nothing to do with the games in themselves, they were (possibly) just the trigger of the event that the person (s) in question probably already had planned, and were just looking for an excuse to get off the hook and used the thing they are most familliar with, hence the games refference of that jackass who gave the video game industry uneeded attention when he didnt want to go to prison for killing the police ocifers. (hehe, see what i did there)  just had to put in my $0.02, people need to wake up, or stay asleep in thier perfect little world.
2006-05-01 18:39:26
No 1 Gooner
coopj Dependant
+98|6830|England
There was a case with Manhunt,some kid hit another kid with a hammer or some such and blamed it on the game! nutters are nutters i spose!just the other day i was in a game store and i heard a kid(mustve been about 12ish) ask his dad for grand theft and his dad bought it for him,they were ahead of me in the line! it did make me think,anyway as my grandad always said"you cant educate a haddock"!
2006-05-01 18:40:27
kingusjordanus
Member
+16|6904|my dads balls
btw, i am now 16, and have been playing since before i could walk, my earliest memory was playing mario on the old NES,  ive never killed anyone (in real life, hence this site deticated to BF2)  my parents have purchased numerous games like the list above, paintball guns, high powered airsoft guns, (350 FPS to be exact)  again, ive never killed anyone.  please stop blaming games, im not saying blame the parents, but cmon, if you dont trust your child alone for more than an hour, its NOT the game that is gonna send them on a killing spree.  no really, its not, nope, no effect what so ever, unless they are mentally unstable or something, then you have other problems than "players can get health from a hooker, then kill her to get your money back"  (GTA: san andreas complaint from joe leberman, and sorry to concerned parents, but my IQ is high above average, i can pass college level finals without studying even 5 minutes, im not just a punk kid who likes to play games)
2006-05-01 18:46:10
No 1 Gooner
coopj Dependant
+98|6830|England
I think some peeps have problems seperating reallity from fiction in the real world,it is down to the individuals grip!people always blame something! you seem really clever kingus,i am glad you've got a grip on reallity,and btw that is high powered!m16 by chance? my mate cant use his at airsoft,its to powerfull lol,he was gutted!!!

 

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