D6717C
Anger is a gift
+174|6657|Sin City

I know this is somewhat old, but it is a perfect example of the "puss-ification" that is out of control in the U.S.
You have a right to protest, not to act like an asshole and throw shit at the police.

The first scapegoats in the May Day melee walk the  plank.

By Jack Dunphy

On Friday, word circulated through the Los  Angeles Police Department that a
protest rally was being planned  for the following day in MacArthur Park, the
scene of last Tuesday’s May  Day melee. A colleague asked me if I would be
interested in adjusting my  schedule and working crowd control at the rally. I
declined.

The rally turned out to be a spectacular dud, as it happened,  attracting far
more cops and reporters than protesters, but staying clear  of it was
nonetheless the wiser course. In fact, for however many days,  months, or years I
have left in my police career, I plan on staying as far  away as possible from
MacArthur Park. There was no violence there on  Saturday, but it’s a dead
certainty that there will one day be another  confrontation between cops and
immigration protesters like the one that  occurred on May Day, and when that day
comes some unfortunate cop will  have to have his head lopped off before the LAPD
brass will allow us to  even raise our voices about it.

On Monday, LAPD Chief William Bratton defied my prediction that  only
front-line officers would be disciplined for their roles in what  happened at the
park on May Day. Appearing at a press conference with  Los  Angeles Mayor Antonio
Villaraigosa, Bratton announced that the  senior officer who oversaw police
response to the protests was being  demoted and removed from his command.
Deputy Chief Cayler “Lee” Carter, a  33-year veteran of the department, has been
chosen to wear the goat horns.  He will be reduced in rank to commander and “
assigned to home duties,”  which is to say his career is over. Carter’s
second-in-command, Commander  Louis Gray, a 39-year veteran, has been reassigned to
duties yet to be  specified, but his career is essentially over as well. Call
him the  Assistant Goat.

Neither Carter nor Gray are particularly admired at my level of the 
department, but to a man the cops I’ve spoken with are in sympathy with  them. As was
demonstrated in the opening hours of the 1992 Los Angeles  riots and in the
violence that followed the Lakers’ NBA championship in  2000, LAPD commanders
are a timid lot, tending toward indecision when the  need for action is evident
to all but them. So it came as a welcome  surprise when, after repeated
provocations by an unruly crowd, Carter gave  the order to shut down what was left
of the May Day rally at MacArthur  Park.

A relatively small number of protesters, some with their faces  concealed by
bandanas, pelted officers with frozen water bottles and soda  cans, bottles
filled with urine, rocks, sticks, and any number of other  projectiles that
could be heaved toward the police lines. There were even  instances of protesters
using slingshots to shoot heavy metal bolts at  officers. Through it all, the
hundreds of cops gathered near Alvarado and  Seventh Streets, at the southeast
corner of the park, stood their ground  and showed uncommon restraint even as
the debris was coming down around  them and indeed striking and injuring
some. What, these cops were asking,  is it going to take before we do something
about this?

Contrary to some of the more hysterical claims, dispersal orders  were
broadcast from a circling helicopter, from police cars, and from  hand-held
bullhorns. The warnings from the helicopter can be clearly heard  in an amateur video
shot inside the park as the police moved in. “The  helicopter has asked
everybody to leave the park,” a man says to the  camera, and indeed most people,
including a number of reporters and  cameramen, chose to do just that. On the
same video, which runs for 27  minutes, you can see just how long it took the
line of officers to  traverse the length of the park after the warnings were
broadcast. You can  also see officers, some speaking in Spanish, very calmly
directing people  to safety. Yes, some people who chose to stay were shoved around,
some  were shot with rubber bullets, and some were struck with batons, but
none  of them can claim they hadn’t been warned. And, lest we forget, there were
more police officers injured that day than protesters and reporters 
combined.

All that’s followed has been nothing but public theater of the most  sordid
kind. Those injured officers were not even mentioned at Monday’s  press
conference, at least not in those portions that were aired on the  channel I watched.
Mayor Villaraigosa praised Bratton for his “decisive  action” in the public
humiliation of Carter and Gray, and he bristled at  the suggestion that
Bratton may have acted to sacrifice the two senior  commanders so as to preserve his
own career. “This chief is doing his  job,” Villaraigosa said. “He was
hired, and he’ll be reappointed based on  how well he does that job. And I can tell
you he has my support . . .” In  other words: “Bratton is doing exactly what
I tell him to do, and if he  wants to keep his job he’ll continue to do so.”
The city’s civilian police commission, whose members are appointed  by the
mayor, was set to vote this week on retaining Bratton for a second  five-year
term as chief. Until the May Day incident, Bratton was a shoo-in  for
reappointment, but the commission will now table the matter as the  various fingers are
moistened and held up in the political winds. Bratton  won’t lose his job over
this, but under the circumstances the commission  has to give the appearance
of being deliberative.

And now a question occurs: What will happen next time? Villaraigosa  has made
no secret of his sympathy and even his support for illegal aliens  demanding
amnesty, and Bratton has been little more than the mayor’s sock  puppet on
this issue. In the sacking of Deputy Chief Carter and Commander  Gray they have
sent a very clear message to the rest of the LAPD: Woe be  unto anyone who lays
a hand on our people, no matter how many bottles  they’re throwing at you.
The next confrontation may come next May Day, it  may come sooner, but you can
bet no career-minded senior cop is going to  risk the stars on his collar by
being aggressive when things get out of  hand. Better to let them burn it all
down than take the blame if one of  them gets hurt.
Readers around the country may shake their heads in wonder at the  craziness
found here in Los Angeles, but remember: This circus is coming  soon to a park
near you. I hope you’re  ready.


Link:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OT … c1YTcxYzA=)%20%20|%208%20May%20%202007

Last edited by D6717C (2007-06-04 08:35:15)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6699|Canberra, AUS
Could you format it so it's more readable? Seems a waste to copy all that and have to have everyone go to the link to find out what's going on.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|6714|Fort Lewis WA
I honestly believe the LAPD was given a raw deal. No matter what the cops did they would've been ridiculed for what they did.  Its a hard choice to unleach less then lethal force. But surely Less then Lethal was called for.
The officers reacted well, the commanders made a call to support and protect they're cops. I believe that the LAPD acted well within they're rights.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6553|Global Command
Border security first.
Screw the man second.
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6439|Vienna

Its always the same deal. People come to protest but than slowly turn in to a angry mob and start breaking windows, flipping over and burning cars and shit like that. Of course its always the police that gets blamed.

I was just watching the news from Germany and they are throwing molotov cocktails at the police.
There is a group of protesters that even have "uniforms" and a mate of mine that was there told me that they even use ranks among them selves. And everyone is blaming police for being to violent.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|6804|Great Brown North
so...they injured police officers and the officers responded with non lethal force, and they get shit on for it?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6553|Global Command
Los Angeles is run by a Mecca member named Viaragosa.

Soon they will hoist the Mexican flag over city hall, I shit you not.
iamangry
Member
+59|6669|The United States of America

ATG wrote:

Los Angeles is run by a Mecca member named Viaragosa.

Soon they will hoist the Mexican flag over city hall, I shit you not.
Well, its too bad that you all elected a mexican racist to lead your city. 
I was hoping to move back to the Los Angeles area when i graduate from college in 2 years.  Hopefully you guys can clean up everything before then.  It'd be a shame to have looked forward to going back there for 8 years only to find that the California I left no longer exists.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6429|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Border security first.
Screw the man second.
Agreed....
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6584
Los Angeles:Translation = The Angels.
LA is my city. Fuck off racist gringos.
RAVAGE
Member
+4|6198|México City, México.
You guys migth add this one to your vocabulary:

Hyperbole: Largely synonymous with exaggeration and overstatement, hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɝbəli/ or "hy-PER-buh-lee") ("HY-per-bowl" is a mispronunciation) is a figure of speech in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used due to strong feelings or is used to create a strong impression and is not meant to be taken literally. It gives greater emphasis. It is often used in poetry and is a literary device as well as a referendum.
Smithereener
Member
+138|6340|California

RAVAGE wrote:

You guys migth add this one to your vocabulary:

Hyperbole: Largely synonymous with exaggeration and overstatement, hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɝbəli/ or "hy-PER-buh-lee") ("HY-per-bowl" is a mispronunciation) is a figure of speech in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used due to strong feelings or is used to create a strong impression and is not meant to be taken literally. It gives greater emphasis. It is often used in poetry and is a literary device as well as a referendum.
True, but same can be said about the media and protesters. Here is the police's point of view, maybe with some exaggeration to emphasize his point of view. On the news, however, is the protester's point of view which is also, like the police officer's, exaggerated.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6678

I am in complete support of police "brutality" (even though what they do is not unjustified and brutal). Peaceful protests are completely fine, but when they start throwing crap at officers and challenging them, the police need to be allowed to do what they're their for and restore order. How long will it be before people realize that all these lawsuits and complaints against police are just screwing ourselves over?

Oh btw, I'm currently going to school in LA right now and when I saw the May Day "violence" on the news and the videos, I smiled and I was happy. I'm dead serious. It's about time the police put those pussy, idiotic protesters in their place. You'd think if they had enough energy and determination to start a huge protest, maybe they'd have enough energy and determination to come here legally and obtain citizenship the right way? (The wrong way being: making stupid protests, getting mad at police for hitting you when you instigated them, and then demanding the same rights everyone else worked so hard to earn but you want it without any effort).
chittydog
less busy
+586|6859|Kubra, Damn it!

zeidmaan wrote:

People come to protest but than slowly turn in to a angry mob
Bullshit. Who goes to a peaceful demonstration with a slingshot and a bag of metal bolts? These fools wanted to start something. The police should bring their video cameras so everyone sees what's going on and why they should be tear-gassing, clubbing and arresting these bastards.
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6303
I really wish I had a dime for every time the police waded into a crowd of protestors and then later claimed that the protestors were throwing shit at them. So these cops got busted supposedly for responding with the correct level of force? Amazing, considering cops routinely record video of shit like this using multiple cameras from multiple angles. You'd figure they'd have footage of at least one or two of these "pussy, idiotic protestors" throwing shit that would exonorate them. My bet is they don't. My bet is they gambled that they could just claim protestors threw shit at them and it would be believed again like it has almost every other damn time, but this time they came up snake-eyes. Too bad, so sad. Enjoy your re-assignment, fuckers.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6796|PNW

ATG wrote:

Los Angeles is run by a Mecca member named Viaragosa.

Soon they will hoist the Mexican flag over city hall, I shit you not.
Los Angeles is run by vampires.

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/unnamednewbie13/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2.jpg
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6741|Riva, MD
You REALLY need to organize that post.  I'm not even gonna bother to read it since it's that unorganized.
D6717C
Anger is a gift
+174|6657|Sin City

_j5689_ wrote:

You REALLY need to organize that post.  I'm not even gonna bother to read it since it's that unorganized.
Fixed. Sorry, I was in a hurry when I posted it.
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6303

ATG wrote:

Los Angeles is run by a Mecca member named Viaragosa.

Soon they will hoist the Mexican flag over city hall, I shit you not.
And Jeebus Fuckberg McChristsicle, man,  it's MEChA not Mecca. You're mixing up your Brown Hordes again.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6429|North Carolina

rawls2 wrote:

Los Angeles:Translation = The Angels.
LA is my city. Fuck off racist gringos.
Shouldn't you be cursing in Spanish?...
D6717C
Anger is a gift
+174|6657|Sin City

rawls2 wrote:

Los Angeles:Translation = The Angels.
LA is my city. Fuck off racist gringos.
Yeah.......and calling us "gringos" isn't racist. Idiot.
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6303

D6717C wrote:

Yeah.......and calling us "gringos" isn't racist. Idiot.
Would you feel better if he said "Fuck off, white racists"?
D6717C
Anger is a gift
+174|6657|Sin City

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

D6717C wrote:

Yeah.......and calling us "gringos" isn't racist. Idiot.
Would you feel better if he said "Fuck off, white racists"?
Yes, that's much more warm and fuzzy. :-)
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6584

D6717C wrote:

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

D6717C wrote:

Yeah.......and calling us "gringos" isn't racist. Idiot.
Would you feel better if he said "Fuck off, white racists"?
Yes, that's much more warm and fuzzy. :-)
And BTW, Gringo is a term of endearment. I love my white brother!

Last edited by rawls2 (2007-06-05 08:48:35)

rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6584

Turquoise wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Los Angeles:Translation = The Angels.
LA is my city. Fuck off racist gringos.
Shouldn't you be cursing in Spanish?...
Chinga tu madre! Better?

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