Try the Red Cross.............SteikeTa wrote:
Ah, pictures from Guantanamo. That proves everything! Must mean that everything is heaven over there......
Man you people are crazy.
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Try the Red Cross.............SteikeTa wrote:
Ah, pictures from Guantanamo. That proves everything! Must mean that everything is heaven over there......
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You probably missed the whole 'white torture' debate.Kmarion wrote:
The International Red Cross makes frequent visits also to check the conditions and health of the Prisoners.SteikeTa wrote:
Ah, pictures from Guantanamo. That proves everything! Must mean that everything is heaven over there......
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not likely. Tactics like waterboarding have been debated here many times. I believe the Senate outlawed that a couple years ago. It was horribly ineffective anyways.derstralle wrote:
You probably missed the whole 'white torture' debate.Kmarion wrote:
The International Red Cross makes frequent visits also to check the conditions and health of the Prisoners.SteikeTa wrote:
Ah, pictures from Guantanamo. That proves everything! Must mean that everything is heaven over there......
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You rant on about other prisons and how they have non guilty ppl in them. These ppl you talk of have not been tortured to get confessions, have had legal representation and a fair trial. They haven't been snatched off the street and flown to a different country and not allowed to talk to family or their countries consulate.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
I just love it when America does something.....it is always bad and so many jump on the bandwagon just because its "America". 99 percent of the people who are in Gitmo are there for good reason. Name me ONE country or ONE jail system ANYWHERE where EVERY single person in prison is totally innocent. No country, no justice system and no prison system can claim a perfect record.....NO ONE. I'm sure there are people in prisons all over the world that are innocent. Also, there have been people in every country that probably served years in prison and were innocent. Wow....America sure does have a different standard to live up to. Wake up!!!!
....seriously, wake the f**k up!
It's getting tougher and tougher to get some sleep around here.JahManRed wrote:
....seriously, wake the f**k up!
Is that supposed to help them? Specially when, say, your from the UK, were they just presume your guilty because your partners in this mess say they are.Kmarion wrote:
It's getting tougher and tougher to get some sleep around here.JahManRed wrote:
....seriously, wake the f**k up!
Actually their countries of origin are notified.
Not at all, I was just correcting you with regards to what happens when they are picked up. My rant/view is on the previous page. zzzzJahManRed wrote:
Is that supposed to help them? Specially when, say, your from the UK, were they just presume your guilty because your partners in this mess say they are.Kmarion wrote:
It's getting tougher and tougher to get some sleep around here.JahManRed wrote:
....seriously, wake the f**k up!
Actually their countries of origin are notified.
Night night....................
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spin it how you like... lol... Big mean US is making nice people into terrorists by keeping them at Gitmo...lol...HunterOfSkulls wrote:
Really, I can't imagine why someone held at Gitmo as a suspected terrorist might develop a grudge against the US, it being such a relaxing vacation destination full of the very spirit of human kindness and all that.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
If you were a prisoner and had to pick... Gitmo or being held by terrorists... which would you pick? Id take my chances with Gitmo and US guards... lol...
Some of the people at Gitmo might be innocent...? I saw that 2 that were released went right back to fighting in Afghanistan... One of the 2 guys claimed he was a doctor who had nothing to do with terrorism or Al Qaeda or the Taliban until they caught him again...
Oh, and you might want to rethink your choice there. I don't imagine an American held at Gitmo would fare very well, considering you'd be looked at as a traitor to your own people whether you actually were or not.
I do not know what is going on over there. Maybe they are treating them how they should, maybe not. Easy for them to cover up things that should not be known to the public. Right? Pay off someone who inspects..... not saying that they do, but things like that can happen.usmarine2005 wrote:
Try the Red Cross.............SteikeTa wrote:
Ah, pictures from Guantanamo. That proves everything! Must mean that everything is heaven over there......
Man you people are crazy.
usmarine2005 wrote:
lolBraddock wrote:
physical and psychological hell that is Guantanamo bay.
If that is the general belief then Americans should stop complaining that their soldiers are being captured, tortured and killed.Parker wrote:
The Geneva Convention is full of bullshit.
First, we signed that document, and do not treat the people we catch like that. say what you will about waterboarding and having fucking dogs bark at you.....its nothing compared to having your head cut off your body.Ty wrote:
If that is the general belief then Americans should stop complaining that their soldiers are being captured, tortured and killed.Parker wrote:
The Geneva Convention is full of bullshit.
Define the "torture" they are enduring CURRENTLY down at Gitmo?Ty wrote:
People are being held and tortured there this fact cannot be disputed. One may say that they get meals and freedom of religion and that's all very hospitable, but torture does occur.
What fucking standards? Cold War standards? Vietnam standards? You want people to stop "throwing stuff out there," well I suggest a little more clarity with all this babble. If you know a better way of dealing with religious fanatics who believe in virgins in heaven if they blow themselves up, by all means get off your computer and do it.zeidmaan wrote:
DeathBecomesYu - mate please stop using made up percentages and for the love of God please stop comparing America with China, Russia, Iran.... If you are better than Iran that still doesn't make you good enough. That seems to be the general problem with most of you. You believe that it doesnt matter how bad you become, as long as you are better than "terrorists". You are lowering your standards and I just cant understand that.
So BF2 breaks the Genevea convention, holy shit!Parker wrote:
The Geneva Convention is full of bullshit.
my favorite parts are where it says you cant use shotguns in war, and bullets cant EXPAND!!!!!
craziness, i know......anyway, i dont think the wahabists signed that paperwork.
really ? " they get treated worse than farm animals" Really lol. Are you sure you just don't hate your country ?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
don't have military uniforms, which means they don't fight properly, which means they aren't gentlemen, which means they get treated worse than farm animals.
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the vast majority were howeverHunterOfSkulls wrote:
The problem is a lot of these folks weren't taken under force of arms and surrendering.
The crime you speak of was committed by the Kidnaper who presented "Heer iz Al Kada ” as an operative, under false pretense for personal vendetta and or monetary gain. The US and its Military have no culpability in this act. I know this is not what you want to hear or desperately believe and further. This will not lesson the hatred many people have for this country. They are deluded in this case.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
Some were kidnapped and sold by Northern Alliance thugs in Afghanistan looking to make some bank off all the money the Coalition is throwing around for people with information on "Al Qaeda operatives" which some seem to interpret as "that jerk Hamish who owes me money" or "that cabdriver over there". This would be a lot more clear-cut if they were being taken in combat, not dumped on the Coalition's doorstep with a note that says "Heer iz Al Kada oprative, send mony pls kthxbye".
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