BF2S Forums NEW HOSTAGE girl from my area and im pisssssssssssssssed what to do

SharkyMcshark wrote:

TehSeraphim wrote:

Who are you to demean the lives of 8 other people because this one girl has some sort of corrolation to you?  Each one of these people have families and people who love them, and just because someone might be of a different nationality it does not make them and their lives any more or less valuable.  I'm no fucking hippy, but I am going to say that we're all human, and theres truely nothing that divides us except for our own retarded attitudes.

I don't know much about Canada, but if this event caused them to "go to war" or whatever you guys are talking about - I don't see how one girls life would be worth sacrificing thousands of young men.  Does anyone remember Iran and Ronald Reagan's 444 days of hell?  Yeah, he won the Nobel Peace prize for that.

As for extremists - they're never going to get what they want; it's physically impossible to mold the world into how they want it.  For the one girl that may be beheaded is a travisty and an event to mourn, I would not be willing to put up and kill 8 more people who would be turned into glorious martyrs for their extremist friends.  This extremists have no humility about death - they blow themselves up constantly because they know in their minds they will go to some better place.  Would you really be teaching them ANYTHING by executing people?

Wow, great post mate. I agree with TehSeraphim

Me two.  What is this 72 virgin crap they believe.  I am sure they are surprised when they are meeting the fires of hell for killing innocent people

Last edited by DakotaDoc64 (2006-01-23 23:50:03)

Jack_Danger wrote:

we have invented/discovered almost all of the almost all of the most useful things ever

It is not part of this topic, sorry for that.
But i would argue with this statement...
Just look after some inventions, that who invented them...
Most of them were not Americans, but people who immigrated to the US from Europe because of the war.
Just to mention some things:


car
your freakin b-52 bomber
matches
hologram
helicopter
jets
computers
nuclear reactor
landline dispatch center
alternating current (the type of electricity that we use for almost everything now)
x-ray
radioactivity
the first battery (Daniell battery)
gravity
penicillin (the base of most antibiotics)
and so on....
I bet Americans invented vast amounts of useful things too, but get your facts straight...

Last edited by (HUN)Rudebwoy (2006-01-24 16:41:30)

So you all think that your above that girl shes going to be executed.. Shame you all [img]http://images.bf2s.com/resources/graphics/ranks/rank_6.gif[/img]

Last edited by kepp! (2006-01-24 09:12:51)

FoodNipple101 wrote:

Look frankly bitch. Our country doesnt have to tell anybody shit or why we do it. WE OWN you get over. I mean do you WANt the b2 and f117 over your house. You know the ones that cost more then your fucking queen? Or what. I mean honestly we dont have to answer to shit. WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT DONT LIKE IT JOIN WHATEVER YOUR SPACE THINGY IS AND LEAVE. O wait you probably dont have one or cant afford one.

Oh My Fucking God. Seems like you have smaller brains than Sponge Bob.
That just proves to me how retarted some Americans can be.
Yes it is true that you could destroy whole world with ur atomic bombs and shit..
But it doesnt mean you own us all. Most of you Americans cant even drive with normal car with no automatic gear on it.
Best wishes to the hostage girl.. Though I dont really give a fuck. You attacked to Afghanistan to kill Osama.. Well did you get him? No. You attacked to Iraq to get oil? Well did you get oil? Yes I think you got some amount.. But in the meanwhile many many Americans died for almost nothing. So once again you got 0wned like in the Vietnam and now you have the hates of many ppl around the world.
I dont like them either but you just cant go and '0wn' them and take their oil resources ''bcos u need them''

Would you send couple of your Princesses of the air over my house.. Havent seen B2 or F117 never in real life

sapoisk wrote:

but letting the US go in was not the right way to do it.. they shouldnt have been on the ground there at no time but since EU is just a bunch of sorry ass motherfuckers without balls once again the US took over showed they werent afraid..

The EU is an economic and cultural union, not a militaristic one.
The EU had absolutely nothing to do with the whole Iraq scene. (well it does affect the US economically, and through this it affects the EU if that counts, but not much)
I dont think it is about showing who is afraid, and who doesn't (afraid of what anyway?To start a war? The NATO wouldn't be afraid to start a war either, it was just not in it's interest. So no more blame on US and EU and whatever, we all know that anyone would have started it if it  was in their interest)
I dont like when people are pointing fingers at each other, stereotyping each other without reason.
No one is a saint.Hate only the asshole who is leading the country, but dont hate the people.

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:

Jack_Danger wrote:

we have invented/discovered almost all of the almost all of the most useful things ever

It is not part of this topic, sorry for that.
But i would argue with this statement...
Just look after some inventions, that who invented them...
Most of them were not Americans, but people who immigrated to the US from Europe because of the war.
Just to mention some things:


car
your freakin b-52 bomber
matches
hologram
helicopter
jets
computers
nuclear reactor
landline dispatch center
alternating current (the type of electricity that we use for almost everything now)
x-ray
radioactivity
the first battery (Daniell battery)
gravity
penicillin (the base of the most antibiotics)
and so on....
I bet Americans invented vast amounts of useful things too, but get your facts straight...

Those people still became American citizens, I never said they were all people that were born and raised in the U.S. and they came here(like I said) in search of a better life, and because they did they could do all those great things that they did. Some of them would/could of been imprisioned, prosecuted, or even killed in their country for their beliefs so they fled here and had the freedom and opportunity to express their ideas and thoughts. By coming here they had more resources and a better environment to work and experiment.

Last edited by Jack_Danger (2006-01-24 17:39:57)

I've only read a few posts from this thread, but man. It feels like there's gonna be some cyber riot in here, loosen up a bit. It's terrible that this person is likely going to be killed, but there is no reason to start your own little religious/nationalistic war with your fellow man. Now I have never met this girl but still I don't believe she would want us spitting hate and prejudice at each other over her kidnapping. How about instead we tell one another why we're above such vile and inhumane practices and will not give in to fear. Let's not get Islam or Christianity or religion into this. It is not the will of Allah that's killing innocent people.

sapoisk wrote:

one thing i noticed by reading some of the posts in this thread...

GET ONE THING STRAIGHT... it was the right decision to go into iraq wether or not it was because of the right reasons.. THAT DICKHEAD of Saddam was nessecary to get removed.. anybody saying anything else should read more about the whole history..

but letting the US go in was not the right way to do it.. they shouldnt have been on the ground there at no time but since EU is just a bunch of sorry ass motherfuckers without balls once again the US took over showed they werent afraid..

and im still sure that if it was other forces than the US troops and under controll of EU or another big country it wouldnt be as bad as it is now down there..

Were there car bombs and suicide attacks every other day under Saddam? No
Was there running water, and working power? Yes
Did the children have schools to go to? Yes

Now dont get me wrong here. Saddam was one of the baddest bastards in the world, and deserves whats coming to him for his genocide and war crimes. However, it was none of Americas business to be going in to Iraq and deposing him, especially not under the excuse of weapons of mass destruction. Where are these weapons? Have they been hidden in some deek dark underground Dr Evil esque layer? No, the simple answer is that they never existed. The best proof that American and independent intelligence agencies could come up with were a bunch of copper pipes that were said to be suspicious and a phone call, where one guy said to another "move the stuff".

I have noted that it is the standard American patriotic answer to say that they had to show the world that thety could do something and were not pussies (like the EU apparently). The bottom line is that Iraq is the hell hole it is today because of the American invasion.

Oh yes, and on another point most of you would consider yourselves better than terrorists, right? To all those people who say "lets torture and execute the bastards at gunpoint", you should probably remember that what makes us better is the way the we act as opposed to the way they act. So if you do the same that they do, you are no better.

Last edited by SharkyMcshark (2006-01-24 21:05:12)

wow...7 pages already...how could I miss this thread ?

what's the update on the hostage situation ? this whole discussion has been getting out of hand lately...

Nah, that is not true.
I like it here.
If I have to choose which country to emigrate to, then I would choose Switzerland.
You flaming me or what?

B.Schuss wrote:

wow...7 pages already...how could I miss this thread ?

what's the update on the hostage situation ? this whole discussion has been getting out of hand lately...

The deadline has passed.  The last I heard, a number of muslim groups, etc. were asking the hostage takers to let her go, but I haven't heard anything for a few days.  Does anyone have more recent info?

I'm not excusing kidnap and possible cold blooded murder (hopefully it wont come to that for Jill Carroll). I haven't seen any evidence that she doesn't have the interests of the Iraqi people at heart and care about their suffering (unlike a minority of racists in this thread).

But WTF??? They're innocent now? They shouldn't have been held?? Not enough evidence??? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4649714.stm

Another addition to the mountain of evidence, that the short-sighted policy's of the washington neo-cons, is fuelling this war on error (sic) and them-there-darn-terrorists.

On a side line, in our brief history we call people who did similar things for our cuase "patriots and freedom fighters" (yes kidnapped, murdered & butchered 100-k's of innocents). But they were true blue....... right?
Independence, mexican, civil and Injun wars to name a few.

To be hypocrites now cos we're the colonial occupying empire, kinda devalues/make a sham and a lie of our heritage and history.

I for one like what the USA stands for, and wont be joining that particular war.





PS. the only good thing to come out of all this is saddam is out of power, but wouldn't it have been better using the trillions of dollars to get Bin ladle, and smearing him slowly to oblivion (after a genuinely fair trial of course). The change could have been used to build proper levees in NewOrlns, Hospitals to give free basic health care to ALL Americans,

PPS, probably still have some cash left over to buy/influence saddam for national security reasons (oil/power)

PPPS. Why is everybody slagging off Al jiz? Get off the fkn bandwagon. Do you watch it? Did you hear about the hate they're spreading from fox or fox wanabee networks? They don’t do any worse than the rest of the media. In fact most media analysts in the US (right and left) think they’re pretty balanced. They show the bad and good, it's just our media  who choose to inflate the bad (and it's pretty dire in the middle east). If they were that bad, they'd be banned/bombed……... right?!? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4318284.stm        http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1590885,00.html

Now howbots we get back to killin stuff online (anyone help with getting my knife badge????)

Last edited by Accidental_Dizcharge (2006-01-27 03:06:33)

New Zealand is still like that. Its my home country its rocks. And theres only 4 milion people there.