CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6561
Post up to ten traits that describe the social status, attitude, outlook, etc. of people who vote for the US Republican Party.

Helpful thoughts:

Income Level
Urban v Rural
Personal Freedom
Views On Law And Order
Age

STRICTLY NO BULLSHIT FLAME ANSWERS.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-27 11:51:43)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6535|Global Command
Prefers small government
low taxes
fiscal conservative
may be somewhat religious or moral

doesn't mean the Republican party stands for those things anymore, but that's what we vote for when we vote republican.

The anger comes from the fact that Bush is few things conservative.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6501

ATG wrote:

doesn't mean the Republican party stands for those things anymore, but that's what we vote for when we vote republican.
That about sums it up.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6712

jonsimon wrote:

ATG wrote:

doesn't mean the Republican party stands for those things anymore, but that's what we vote for when we vote republican.
That about sums it up.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6453|Chicago, IL
ME!!!!


But in my experience, there seems to be little correlation between income/age/gender/race and party preference.

Most elderly people vote republican, as do most highly religious people.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6777|PNW

I vote both ways. Republicans come from all walks of life.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-27 14:44:53)

13rin
Member
+977|6485

CameronPoe wrote:

Post up to ten traits that describe the social status, attitude, outlook, etc. of people who vote for the US Republican Party.

Helpful thoughts:

Income Level
Urban v Rural
Personal Freedom
Views On Law And Order
Age

STRICTLY NO BULLSHIT FLAME ANSWERS.
-Against gun control
-Against abortion
-Against gay marriage
-Against giving my hard earned money to people who don't do a damn thing to contribute to society (welfare/social programs)
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
T.Pike
99 Problems . . .
+187|6288|Pennsyltucky

CameronPoe wrote:

Post up to ten traits that describe the social status, attitude, outlook, etc. of people who vote for the US Republican Party.

Helpful thoughts:

Income Level
Urban v Rural
Personal Freedom
Views On Law And Order
Age

STRICTLY NO BULLSHIT FLAME ANSWERS.
I try not to stereo-type others.  Here's how THIS Republican voter measures up though :

Income - Over $40K less than $80K yearly.

Grew up Urban - currently in suburban area.

Personal freedom - Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.  Don't have a problem with people being themselves, just don't shove it down my throat.

Views on Law & Order - Don't run from the Police. Favorite cop quote " Do you want to get locked-up OR beat-up & locked-up ? "

Age - Older than 30 less than 50.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Post up to ten traits that describe the social status, attitude, outlook, etc. of people who vote for the US Republican Party.

Helpful thoughts:

Income Level
Urban v Rural
Personal Freedom
Views On Law And Order
Age

STRICTLY NO BULLSHIT FLAME ANSWERS.
-Against gun control
-Against abortion
-Against gay marriage
-Against giving my hard earned money to people who don't do a damn thing to contribute to society (welfare/social programs)
-For gun control
-For abortion
-For gay marriage
-I have a different proposal for welfare
-For legalization of Marijuana

Gun Control: Pretty obvious. America needs this. We don't need more kids running into school and shooting them up.

Abortion: How fucking ignorant do you have to be to be AGAINST abortion? How would you like it if someone rapes your daughter/wife and they can't have an abortion? It's their fucking body, they can choose what comes out of it and what doesn't. We don't need old white Republican's telling them what to do.

Gay Marriage: Leave the gays alone. The days of a "proper marriage" are over. If you think it's immoral, tell it to the divorce rates.

Welfare: Ok, I kind of agree about the not giving our hard earned money to undeserving people, but some people do try their hardest to live a decent life, and some people haven't come from good families who provide for them. I, personally, have friends who come from bad/run down families, and the person I know relies on welfare, but he tries to support himself with a job. He doesn't have a very good education because he needs to work to feed his family. Instead of letting everyone apply for welfare and everyone being accepted, I think only those who have a dream of changing their life style or who need a chance should be accepted. In fact, if it was up to me, there wouldn't be welfare. Instead, I'd have a small but efficient system, which could easily be employed. This system would consist of lower class job opportunities (fast food, sales clerk, cashiers, etc) and you have to apply to them via government website, local posts, etc. and be accepted. This would be ideal since some people don't have the required skills to go into an interview, or don't have enough experience, but they don't just live off our welfare money either. This way, people off the street can apply at jobs and earn their own money. Small government owned apartments can also be on rent and loaned to these new workers, and after they are on their feet they can pay the government back for these living spaces.

Legalization of Marijuana: I smoke weed, but I guarantee this does NOT affect my view on this subject. Even back when I was AGAINST doing drugs, I was still for legalizing marijuana. I think it should be legal and taxed by roughly 20% of it's cost and what you are getting. EX: 1g of Fire Kush where I live (Ottawa, Canada) is $10 (yes, it is very cheap!) With taxes, it should be $12. With this system, smokers smoke instead of buying it illegally and the government makes more money (A LOT MORE MONEY.) I think that dealing should still be illegal (for those who deal for cheaper) but I think growing marijuana at home should also be legal, with proper licensing. I think dealing should only be legal if it is by a licensed dealer, much like it is now.

EDIT:

And I think there should be a HUGE separation of church and state. Personally, if it was up to me, I'd obliterate religion.

As you can tell, I'm highly liberal.

Last edited by TheCanadianTerrorist (2007-05-27 21:31:27)

{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6187|Santa Rosa, California
I dont believe that social class, income, religious views neccesarily determines which side of the partisan line you vote...People who are very similar can vote exact opposite..It alot has to do with understanding and the logic that is put forth.
13rin
Member
+977|6485

TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Post up to ten traits that describe the social status, attitude, outlook, etc. of people who vote for the US Republican Party.

Helpful thoughts:

Income Level
Urban v Rural
Personal Freedom
Views On Law And Order
Age

STRICTLY NO BULLSHIT FLAME ANSWERS.
-Against gun control
-Against abortion
-Against gay marriage
-Against giving my hard earned money to people who don't do a damn thing to contribute to society (welfare/social programs)
-For gun control
-For abortion
-For gay marriage
-I have a different proposal for welfare
-For legalization of Marijuana

Gun Control: Pretty obvious. America needs this. We don't need more kids running into school and shooting them up.

Abortion: How fucking ignorant do you have to be to be AGAINST abortion? How would you like it if someone rapes your daughter/wife and they can't have an abortion? It's their fucking body, they can choose what comes out of it and what doesn't. We don't need old white Republican's telling them what to do.

Gay Marriage: Leave the gays alone. The days of a "proper marriage" are over. If you think it's immoral, tell it to the divorce rates.

Welfare: Ok, I kind of agree about the not giving our hard earned money to undeserving people, but some people do try their hardest to live a decent life, and some people haven't come from good families who provide for them. I, personally, have friends who come from bad/run down families, and the person I know relies on welfare, but he tries to support himself with a job. He doesn't have a very good education because he needs to work to feed his family. Instead of letting everyone apply for welfare and everyone being accepted, I think only those who have a dream of changing their life style or who need a chance should be accepted. In fact, if it was up to me, there wouldn't be welfare. Instead, I'd have a small but efficient system, which could easily be employed. This system would consist of lower class job opportunities (fast food, sales clerk, cashiers, etc) and you have to apply to them via government website, local posts, etc. and be accepted. This would be ideal since some people don't have the required skills to go into an interview, or don't have enough experience, but they don't just live off our welfare money either. This way, people off the street can apply at jobs and earn their own money. Small government owned apartments can also be on rent and loaned to these new workers, and after they are on their feet they can pay the government back for these living spaces.

Legalization of Marijuana: I smoke weed, but I guarantee this does NOT affect my view on this subject. Even back when I was AGAINST doing drugs, I was still for legalizing marijuana. I think it should be legal and taxed by roughly 20% of it's cost and what you are getting. EX: 1g of Fire Kush where I live (Ottawa, Canada) is $10 (yes, it is very cheap!) With taxes, it should be $12. With this system, smokers smoke instead of buying it illegally and the government makes more money (A LOT MORE MONEY.) I think that dealing should still be illegal (for those who deal for cheaper) but I think growing marijuana at home should also be legal, with proper licensing. I think dealing should only be legal if it is by a licensed dealer, much like it is now.

EDIT:

And I think there should be a HUGE separation of church and state. Personally, if it was up to me, I'd obliterate religion.

As you can tell, I'm highly liberal.
YEA and the tread was for who votes for the republicans.  There is a post about the who votes dems elsewhere, as there is a thread for each of your "points" in your post.  I'd be willing to bet my positons are located there too.

Hold the phone though..

1.  Law abiding citizens carring guns deter crime.  Its a fact. Shit, I'll prove it.  Come to my town and try to commit a forcible felony in my presence.
2.  You are the ignorant one.  Old white?  You BIGOT.  First off, I'm not old (30), second my wife is on the pill, so should she be raped (you asshole -for hypothesising about it... )  She wouldn't become pregnant.. But Hell, You've got a point, maybe your mom should have practiced what you preach.
3.  Gays by and large aren't religious.  Marriage is a religious sacrament.  Don't degrade what I share sacred with my Wife and God, by going against the good book's teaching, and then make a claim on its sacrament.
4.  Welfare...  I work hard 60+ hours a week.  I pay for health care.  Why the fuck should one who does little more than spit out kids get it for free?  You want fair for the masses?  Welfare ain't it.
5   Weed?  Where did I post my opinion about it?  If you must know, I think it should be decriminalized.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2007-05-27 23:26:08)

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6777|PNW

DBBrinson1 wrote:

-Against giving my hard earned money to people who don't do a damn thing to contribute to society (welfare/social programs)
What, like defense contractors who give us overdeveloped, underperforming equipment?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina

CameronPoe wrote:

Post up to ten traits that describe the social status, attitude, outlook, etc. of people who vote for the US Republican Party.

Helpful thoughts:

Income Level
Urban v Rural
Personal Freedom
Views On Law And Order
Age

STRICTLY NO BULLSHIT FLAME ANSWERS.
Note: the following criteria describe what Republican voters want, not what the actual party usually supports in policy.

People who prefer:
1)smaller government
2)fiscal responsibility
3)accountability of character
4)border security
5)moral progression
6)states' rights over federal intervention
7)less taxes for hard working Americans (as opposed to mostly tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy)
8)consistent enforcement of immigration laws
9)effective law enforcement and prison systems
10)improved national security
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6567
Isn't that what any voter wants?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina
In many ways, yes...  but there are notable differences.

Liberals tend to prefer larger government, although they currently want smaller government than the warmongering nuts who run this administration.

Liberals seem to view border security on very different terms from conservatives.  They seem to put more emphasis on the naturalization of illegals than on enforcing the law.  Then again, most Republican Congressmen don't seem to care about enforcing the law either.

Liberals see moral progression as a mostly personal pursuit, whereas conservatives seem to believe it can be legally mandated.  Then again, things like affirmative action are a liberal form of "legislating morality."  In either case, it just doesn't work.  The government can't make you more moral, mostly because it's so corrupt in its own right.

Liberals generally prefer federal intervention in social policy over letting issues fall to the states.

Liberals put less emphasis on cutting taxes and more emphasis on balancing the budget.  Granted, there is a way to both cut taxes AND spending, but apparently, neither party wants a part of it.

Liberals don't tend to focus on the consistent enforcement of immigration laws, although thankfully, many of the more moderate ones seem to get the big picture on this one -- just like the less greedy conservatives do as well.

Liberals define improved national security in terms of domestic defense rather than invasions.  This is why their view on it hasn't been as disastrously ineffective as that of the neoconservatives.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6777|PNW

Turquoise wrote:

The government can't make you more moral, mostly because it's so corrupt in its own right.
Sort of like a whore giving a kid a spit bath.

[addendum: yeah, I thought that one up myself. ain't it grand?]

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-28 01:42:20)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina
LOL...  good one
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6567
I feel I should point out that you need to replace Liberal with Democrat in your post.

For one, Liberals lean towards small government (i.e. anarchists).
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6586|the dank(super) side of Oregon
maybe eurotrash liberals.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2007-05-28 02:06:00)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina

Bubbalo wrote:

I feel I should point out that you need to replace Liberal with Democrat in your post.

For one, Liberals lean towards small government (i.e. anarchists).
I'll give you that.  I realize American Liberals are far more centre-left than most "liberals" in other Western countries.

In some ways, liberals of countries outside of America are more like what we call socialists or libertarians.

I'm assuming you are more of a Classical Liberal -- minimized government involvement in both social and economic policy.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina

Reciprocity wrote:

mabye eurotrash liberals.
Aw, c'mon man...  Violent anarchists might be trash, but Classical Liberals have some good ideas.  I still disagree with some of their views, but the principles are often somewhat sound.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6567
Socialism is a form of Liberalism.  The Democrat party isn't Liberal, it's just a different form of Conservative.  Just the same as there are some countries which don't really have a politically Conservative party.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina

Bubbalo wrote:

Socialism is a form of Liberalism.  The Democrat party isn't Liberal, it's just a different form of Conservative.  Just the same as there are some countries which don't really have a politically Conservative party.
Everything is relative.  In Iran, reformists that support women's rights are liberal, while women's rights are just common sense here.

In the UK, having gays in the military is openly accepted, whereas support for this in America is seen as liberal.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6567
Yes and no.  America doesn't have any Liberal political party because both parties push different aspects of Conservativism: on pushes interventionist government, the other global militancy.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6411|North Carolina

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes and no.  America doesn't have any Liberal political party because both parties push different aspects of Conservativism: on pushes interventionist government, the other global militancy.
By that definition, very few governments have any liberal parties.

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