I've yet to see an atheist knock on my door...doctastrangelove1964 wrote:
Why do atheists always have to try to recruit religious people? It seems the religious are happier anyway, as they are content to let people believe what they want. While the atheists have an urge to go around and try to recruit people. At least on this forum anyway.
I don't know if religion is true or not, but I do know the fact that you're an arrogant faggot with an ignorance that supersedes your intelligence.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
See folks, its all bullshit, the sooner you know the better off you'll be! I hope i've persuaded atleast 1 person in this writting.
3rd segment is the charm, Atheism FTW.
humanitylxcpikiman wrote:
is atheism a religion?
what do atheists believe in?
And your point is? I never said mine was the right one hell i never said there was a wrong one, I just said there were violent and peaceful ones. Persuaded what? Dow e have an angry atheist here? Seriously just because you listen to richard carlin and get so hyped up you gotta take your anger out here, Really man only people that care are those who have no life other then being assholes to those who dont beleive the same. If you disagree thats fine we all have freewill something that organized atheism(aka communism) Has tried to squash in the past 80 years, See the more you opress people's beleif's the more thye will fight for them. So please i dont care if your Atheist hell it's even better! It just proves that god or a higher being exists, See the first law of the universe is freewill, And people being able to say things like god does'nt exist just proves my point more.. Think about it. Now i'm gonna go back to my business not caring what you say on the internet because i'm not egotistcal, I just replied to this post because most people are afraid to stand up for what they beleive in, I'm not hell if someone pisses me and tries to take something away from me? I will fight back, Why do you think communism failed in the soviet union? You can force something on someone to a point, No matter how hard religious people(And that includes atheists, Religion is an organized set of beleif's, Aka communism) Will always try to make things how you want it because you are part of a group which leads to racism, Atheists are racist against theists, Theists are racist against other theists, And thats all i have to say. If you dont beleive in something then fine just dont force your beleif on someone else, Then we'll all be happy, Good night.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
Now, your standing there as a Christian, telling me that YOURS is the correct one? THE ONLY shred of proof you have is
1. A book
2. The sheer number of followers
Lets go to any other religion, lets say Islam, and you tell them that YOUR book is the truth and there book is false, they will likely gun you down in the name of Allah.
See folks, its all bullshit, the sooner you know the better off you'll be! I hope i've persuaded atleast 1 person in this writting.
Richard Carlin? Do you mean George Carlin? Communism being organized atheism? DO you even think before you type? Communism being organized atheism, lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao. Where do you pull this bullshit from? Around 71% of Russians are Russian Orthodox, nice try though.David.Podedworny wrote:
And your point is? I never said mine was the right one hell i never said there was a wrong one, I just said there were violent and peaceful ones. Persuaded what? Dow e have an angry atheist here? Seriously just because you listen to richard carlin and get so hyped up you gotta take your anger out here, Really man only people that care are those who have no life other then being assholes to those who dont beleive the same. If you disagree thats fine we all have freewill something that organized atheism(aka communism) Has tried to squash in the past 80 years, See the more you opress people's beleif's the more thye will fight for them. So please i dont care if your Atheist hell it's even better! It just proves that god or a higher being exists, See the first law of the universe is freewill, And people being able to say things like god does'nt exist just proves my point more.. Think about it. Now i'm gonna go back to my business not caring what you say on the internet because i'm not egotistcal, I just replied to this post because most people are afraid to stand up for what they beleive in, I'm not hell if someone pisses me and tries to take something away from me? I will fight back, Why do you think communism failed in the soviet union? You can force something on someone to a point, No matter how hard religious people(And that includes atheists, Religion is an organized set of beleif's, Aka communism) Will always try to make things how you want it because you are part of a group which leads to racism, Atheists are racist against theists, Theists are racist against other theists, And thats all i have to say. If you dont beleive in something then fine just dont force your beleif on someone else, Then we'll all be happy, Good night.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
Now, your standing there as a Christian, telling me that YOURS is the correct one? THE ONLY shred of proof you have is
1. A book
2. The sheer number of followers
Lets go to any other religion, lets say Islam, and you tell them that YOUR book is the truth and there book is false, they will likely gun you down in the name of Allah.
See folks, its all bullshit, the sooner you know the better off you'll be! I hope i've persuaded atleast 1 person in this writting.
OMG athiests are racists, and theists are racist? Do you know what racism is? The closest racism has ever come to a religion is the jewish people. And that is merely because they are so set in their ways of marrying within the faith, that it is ALMOST a race, still not quite though. And even that is NOT racism, it is called antisemitism. You can only be RACIST against a RACE, not a religion.
To anyone bitching about atheists trying to persuade religious people GET A GRIP. Just about every religion, albeit more on the christian side, is set up around the premise of persuasion. Like commie said, I have yet to see an atheist at my door, or college campus, or on tv, or on the radio, or on billboards. Get over it, christianity is all about persuading people, not atheism...period.
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"Other" is third. Not Atheism.
Negative...Non Religious is third. Other is at the bottom of the heap...liquidat0r wrote:
"Other" is third. Not Atheism.
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http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1439968Lol well your wrong, I have lots of proof that god is not real.
1. Laws of physics, and the basic idea of how stuff works prooves that
A. Magic, like "god" has, cannot exist
B. There are no magical beings whom can create stuff out of nothing. The shear though of it should be enough to make you laugh.
2. When you say "We don't need proof, we have faith" Your saying "I don't need facts, i just believe cause i want it to be real"
A. Thats absolutly rediculous, every single thing you hear, see, and learn about in life you need facts to tell you whether its real or bullshit, if i come up to you and say "Someone found a 10,000 pound tiger in the middle of the jungle" You'll say "Show me some proof"
All common sense tells you god is fake, but all fear tells you god is real.
And we know fear is unlimited but common sense has a limit. Therefore, fear of death overwhelms your common sense thus you join the 2.3billion other newbs who believe in god.
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1. so youre saying stars dont exist. yeah... the sun doesnt either.. nothing that seems to break the point of believing exists. LOL. thats extremely funny. you think the world is round? go back 1000 years and say that, they would laugh in your face as you are in mine. you KNOW the world is round, but you cant PROVE it back then.
a. magic? strong word...
b. lol universe theory. i guess the universe was just HERE since.. forever?
2. no, im saying i dont need to be proven it. its already proved to me, im fine with it. YOURE the one who needs the proof, you'll find it soon enough, if not, your loss.
a. show me gravity. i dont believe it exists.
i think the sun is not real, its all a conspiracy by the government. show me the sun. oh? the huge fireball in the sky? thats not the sun, its a huge lamp by guess who? the government.
as a matter of fact eagal, the things you CAN prove are very little debated. everyone knows there is a sun. not all people think there are aliens or things like that.
people, human kind, only argue/disbelieve things that cannot be proven or disproven.. otherwise its a one sided arguement.
im not scared of death, im quite happy with my life so far. ive lived it good, and so far, to the fullest. the other 2.3 billion i guess are fucking crazy. everyone who has religion is just crazy. crazy. crazy.
youre a very large hypocrite. its quite funny to watch you argue against this. cuz all you have is this, "z0mg there is liek no pr00f!111 He cant be r34l!11"
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IYes george thats it sorry i get confused with richard dawkins, Communism is a form of organized religion, Just like christianity is a for of jesus's teachings. Bullshit? I'm just stating the facts. I was'nt talking about just the russians. I was talking about the way politics worked during the bolshevik revolution.oChaos.Haze wrote:
Richard Carlin? Do you mean George Carlin? Communism being organized atheism? DO you even think before you type? Communism being organized atheism, lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao. Where do you pull this bullshit from? Around 71% of Russians are Russian Orthodox, nice try though.
Everyone is racist. Yes racism is hatred for a group of people for any reason Ranging from beleif's to skin color to ways of thinking. Jew's racist? Hardly! They put up with so much bullshit from the KKK, Islamic organizations, And mostly anyone in the past 5000 years. Racism is hatred for a whole for any reason.oChaos.Haze wrote:
OMG athiests are racists, and theists are racist? Do you know what racism is? The closest racism has ever come to a religion is the jewish people. And that is merely because they are so set in their ways of marrying within the faith, that it is ALMOST a race, still not quite though. And even that is NOT racism, it is called antisemitism. You can only be RACIST against a RACE, not a religion.
I dont bitch about atheists i bitch about assholes trying to shove their beleif's down other people's throats! That includes christians with their moral majority, Muslims trying to convert everyone, and Atheists witht heir constant flaming of theists on the internet. You can disagree with parts of a religion but just dont go out and say it sucks like that without examining every aspect of it. Please think it out i'm not talking bad about all atheists i'm talking bad about the ones who act like a-holes to everyone who is not an atheist. The nicest people i know of are buddhists and agnostics they dont force shit down noone's throat.oChaos.Haze wrote:
To anyone bitching about atheists trying to persuade religious people GET A GRIP. Just about every religion, albeit more on the christian side, is set up around the premise of persuasion. Like commie said, I have yet to see an atheist at my door, or college campus, or on tv, or on the radio, or on billboards. Get over it, christianity is all about persuading people, not atheism...period.
Archer wrote:
I don't know if religion is true or not, but I do know the fact that you're an arrogant faggot with an ignorance that supersedes your intelligence.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
See folks, its all bullshit, the sooner you know the better off you'll be! I hope i've persuaded atleast 1 person in this writting.
I sleep in mostly. I feel for you if you do stuff Sunday morning.CommieChipmunk wrote:
Regardless, when you die.. you cease to exist.ghettoperson wrote:
More people agree with me than you, so I guess I win. We live in a democracy after all.CommieChipmunk wrote:
You're neurons will stop firing the day you die the exact same way mine will when I die; and after that, beliefs are irrelevant... you just cease to exist.
The difference, I can do neat stuff with my Sunday mornings.
sunday is all about recovering from two nights of drinking dangerous amounts of alcohol.
thats just me.
i used to do the whole church thing...alas, no more
thats just me.
i used to do the whole church thing...alas, no more
Wow, that's awesome. I've got my religion to save my soul, and you can save my sole for me! That's great man, I love it, the sole of my left shoe is almost completely worn out!Dezerteagal5 wrote:
When i convert someone to Atheism i save there sole from a life of mislead beliefs.
^That would make a great quote for a sig^
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
If I were to follow your logic on the above quote, it would sound like just another clueless 'prophet' trying to spread their 'bullshit religion' to me.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
When i convert someone to Atheism i save there soul from a life of mislead beliefs.
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um im pretty sure Atheism, agnostic, NON-RELIGIOUS are not considered religions. i mean think about it if your athiest, you dont believe in anything so what do you worship, if your Agnostic you dont know what that higher power is so how do you worship it and non-religous speaks for itself.
But it is a Belief. Wonder why he's spreading it eh, while he's complaining/against other people spreading their beliefs?Mordoc_the_Gorilla wrote:
um im pretty sure Atheism, agnostic, NON-RELIGIOUS are not considered religions. i mean think about it if your athiest, you dont believe in anything so what do you worship, if your Agnostic you dont know what that higher power is so how do you worship it and non-religous speaks for itself.
ok ill agree that it is a belief but i blieve in animals and dogs and shit but that doesnt make the a religion now does it?
Animal and Dogs are fact. Not beliefs.Mordoc_the_Gorilla wrote:
ok ill agree that it is a belief but i blieve in animals and dogs and shit but that doesnt make the a religion now does it?
wow whatever. you get the idea. Atheists dont even know what thy believe in they just say "oh...yeah...i believe in that...well...not that exactly but somthing like that". they dont even know so...
alright than here....i believe in life on other planets....there that isnt a fact but its a belief but it isnt a religion.
alright than here....i believe in life on other planets....there that isnt a fact but its a belief but it isnt a religion.
Organized religion has been used over and over again as a tool to do bad things, but I personally believe that motivations were based more on things like greed and hatred. In most cases, religion is the tool, but not the actual reason or motivation.Flecco wrote:
Religious intolerance is caused by, encouraged and spread by organised religion as is fanatical faith. Organised religion is a political tool, as history demonstrates. Fanatical faith is manipulated by religious leaders (Popes that have called for crusades ect...) for political purposes (get rich, seize land...). Examples of this can be found for any religion that becomes political. Catholic Church, Islam as a whole (system of government my arse), those dodgy "pay money for your salvation" churches in America.... As crappy as South Park has gotten, one of the best episodes I've ever seen was the one where Cartman set up a church.... To get rich. It worked. For a while anyway.DesertFox- wrote:
I wouldn't say that is a fact nor is it well known. Religious intolerance, in my opinion, is by far the largest obstacle to progress and peace in this here world.Flecco wrote:
Why post then? Isn't it a well known fact that fanatical faith and organised religion are two of humanities main barriers toward progress?
As far as I can see the rants are justified.
It is an arguable hypothesis that organised, centralised, politicised religion is a danger to society and progress. I would write an essay on the subject over a six month period proving this but with the amount of shit I have for school at the moment I can't be bothered.
Lmao, Chipmunk... I'm going to download my brain into a massive server then become a virus on teh intarnats! Sif die...
I dont really have time to get into specific examples, but all of you who feel we would live in a peaceful happy-land if all religion was abolished are dilusional. If these sick bastards didnt have religion as a tool, they would find something else. The "motherland," revenge, a better future for their children would probably suffice.
This might suprise you all, but many, many, many good things are done in the name of religion.
Racism ......David.Podedworny wrote:
Everyone is racist. Yes racism is hatred for a group of people for any reason Ranging from beleif's to skin color to ways of thinking. Jew's racist? Hardly! They put up with so much bullshit from the KKK, Islamic organizations, And mostly anyone in the past 5000 years. Racism is hatred for a whole for any reason.oChaos.Haze wrote:
OMG athiests are racists, and theists are racist? Do you know what racism is? The closest racism has ever come to a religion is the jewish people. And that is merely because they are so set in their ways of marrying within the faith, that it is ALMOST a race, still not quite though. And even that is NOT racism, it is called antisemitism. You can only be RACIST against a RACE, not a religion.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
And I meant people being racist TOWARDS jews, not vice versa...Merely an example of how a religious group can work into racism.
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Whoops i read it wrong. I guess your right on this. But if communism is'nt organized atheism then what is it?oChaos.Haze wrote:
Racism ......
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
And I meant people being racist TOWARDS jews, not vice versa...Merely an example of how a religious group can work into racism.
What makes me sad is that people have to explain what a Shiite is, especially in this day and age.
Don't slander religion if you don't know what it is.
Don't slander religion if you don't know what it is.
CommunismDavid.Podedworny wrote:
Whoops i read it wrong. I guess your right on this. But if communism is'nt organized atheism then what is it?oChaos.Haze wrote:
Racism ......
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
And I meant people being racist TOWARDS jews, not vice versa...Merely an example of how a religious group can work into racism.
1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
3. (initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.
ie...No general rule about religion, as it is merely another ideology for government, not religion. Now the government in power may try to force one religion, or no religion. But communism itself is not organized atheism at all...
BTW I LOVE dictionary.com haha.
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