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Bubbalo wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Hmm.. so breaking a CEASEFIRE isnt out of order any more?

Every time a ceasefire is made guess who breaks it... thats right Hamas.

Well, they start the shooting.  But it's often Israel who back out on other parts of the agreement.

Hmmm, Hamas starts the shooting, Israel retaliates by backing out of negotiations and fighting back. I dont see how you can use that logic to condemn Israel.

Last edited by Commie Killer (2007-05-18 07:25:14)

Commie Killer wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Hmm.. so breaking a CEASEFIRE isnt out of order any more?

Every time a ceasefire is made guess who breaks it... thats right Hamas.

Well, they start the shooting.  But it's often Israel who back out on other parts of the agreement.

Hmmm, Hamas starts the shooting, Israel retaliates by backing out of negotiations and fighting back. I dont see how you can use that logic to condemn Israel.

Uh, no.  Often it's Israel refuses to remove it's illegal colonists, Hamas starts shooting.

So, got in any totally actually really happened fisticuffs lately?

Bubbalo wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Well, they start the shooting.  But it's often Israel who back out on other parts of the agreement.

Hmmm, Hamas starts the shooting, Israel retaliates by backing out of negotiations and fighting back. I dont see how you can use that logic to condemn Israel.

Uh, no.  Often it's Israel refuses to remove it's illegal colonists, Hamas starts shooting.

Ill admit I am not entirely sure about the whole situation in the west bank etc. though I tend to lean towards Israels side, as it is usually Israel who is defending their land or the land rightfully captured during a war. I think it would be in Israels interest to give back the land though as long as Hamas I doubt Israel is going to do that, I cant really blame them for that either.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

go fatah!  hamas needs to be gone.  i mean these assholes win the election.  they win the support of the people.  they win high ranking positions in government.  but thats not enough. hamas embodies all trhe negative that palestine offers to its people, the region and the rest of the world.  at least fatah fucking compromises, like you are supposed to do in politics.

What if Hamas is funded by Israel?  It sounds crazy, doesn't it?  But it gives Israel the excuse.

Bubbalo wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Hmm.. so breaking a CEASEFIRE isnt out of order any more?

Every time a ceasefire is made guess who breaks it... thats right Hamas.

Well, they start the shooting.  But it's often Israel who back out on other parts of the agreement.

So because Israel prefers diplomacy but sometimes wont agree to certain things they are worse than people who just prefer war in the first place. GET REAL. Both sides are wrong. Stop suggesting one is in the right and one is in the wrong.

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Hmm.. so breaking a CEASEFIRE isnt out of order any more?

Every time a ceasefire is made guess who breaks it... thats right Hamas.

yup

No but you are a racist. Please just leave now, before you get banned.

Ridir wrote:

Generalisation:

This is starting to get really annoying having a new one of these daily and no new agruments just the same stuff day in and day out. Name calling, same "facts", same "evidence."  Either you are pro Israel or anti Israel and it doesn't matter anymore because you will never change sides and believe what the others have to say, you can't do it, you can't listen and you can't make a half ass reply.  Everything is hiding behind your wall and looking at what you want to look at.  Those that recognize that this is an international conflict between idealogical opponents, not just nation states and political leaders, will recognize that this conflict will continue as long as both sides exist or supporters around the world for both sides exist.

Well i kinda defeat your argument as i support neither side. I see everything that happens there as case by case, rather than one whole thing.

Major_Spittle wrote:

Vilham wrote:

No but you are a racist. Please just leave now, before you get banned.

Banned for what, Hamas is a Muslim organization that wants to kill Israeli and American citizens due to their religious beliefs.  Hamas is backed by virtually all Muslim nations. 

Who is racist?  Oh, that's right it is Israel for not sitting there an letting the Palestinians fire rockets at them.

You fail at life, logic, and common sense.

So calling Islam a disease isnt racist? I think you are deluding yourself. You just generalised a whole religion in an extremely negative way, you couldnt be more racist.

By the way dont try to pretend you didnt write it. Ive already reported it and the mods can see all deleted posts.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-18 13:15:57)

Wrong.

Race:
1.    a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.    a population so related.

The majority of Muslims have common descent or heredity, the only ones who dont are converts.

Either way you are still prejudice against a whole group of people. Making you an intolerant cretin.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-18 13:27:52)

My god... no one can be this stupid. I have already stated how the majority of Muslims are of common descent thus a comment encompassing them that shows intolerance and hatred is racist. Thank you for showing 5 times you dont know how to debate.

Yet again more definitions of race for you...

race (PEOPLE)
noun [C or U]
a group, especially of people, with particular similar physical characteristics, who are considered as belonging to the same type, or the fact of belonging to such a group:


race 
group noun [C]
a group of people who share the same language, history, characteristics, etc:

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-18 13:33:30)

A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم, Persian: Mosalmoon Urdu: مسلمان, Turkish: Müslüman, Albanian: Mysliman, Bosnian: Musliman) is an adherent of the religion of Islam. The feminine form of Muslim is Muslimah (Ar: مسلمه). Literally, the word means "one who submits to God)" [Ar. muslim, pl. muslimūn – salma, to submit to God]

Muslims believe that there is only one God, translated to Arabic as Allah. Muslims believe that Islam existed long before the Prophet Muhammad and that the religion has gradually evolved with time. The Qur'an describes as Muslims many Biblical prophets and messengers: Adam, Noah (Arabic: Nuh), Moses (Arabic: Musa) and Jesus (Arabic: Isa) and his apostles. The Koran states that these men were Muslims because they submitted to God, preached His message and upheld His values. Thus, in Surah 3:52 of the Koran, Jesus’ disciples tell Jesus: "do thou bear witness that we are Muslims".

Most Muslims accept others as a Muslim anyone who has publicly pronounced the Shahada, which states, "There is none worthy of worship except God, and Muhammad is His final Messenger." This is often translated as, "There is no God except Allah," however "Allah" is the Arabic word for "the God". Currently, there is an estimated 1.4 billion Muslims, making it the second largest religious body in the world. [1]

Islam (Arabic: الإسلام; al-'islām (help·info)) is a monotheistic religion originating with the teachings of Muhammad, a 7th century Arab religious and political figure. It is the second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, and its adherents are called "Muslims".[1] The word Islam means "submission", or the total surrender of one's self to God (Arabic: الله, Allāh), and the word Muslim means "one who submits (to God)".[2]

Muslims believe that God revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad, God's final prophet, and regard the Qur'an and the Sunnah (the words and deeds of Muhammad) as the fundamental sources of Islam.[3] They do not regard Muhammad as the founder of a new religion, but as the restorer of the original monotheistic faith of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophets. Islamic tradition holds that Judaism and Christianity distorted the messages of these prophets over time either in interpretation, in text, or both.

Webster's Dictionary dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

Doh, doh, doh, you homer.

Major you can try and deny it all you want. For a comment such that you made most people will view you as a racist or as an intolerant prejudice fool. You lose either way. Give up.

Also just so you know I quoted a good dictionary... Cambridge dictionary you quoted some unheard of dictionary... gg

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-18 13:37:15)