BF2S Forums Which One out of these Religions is the Most open-minded?

His point, to state the extreme obvious (even though many people... well, nearly everyone... can't see it), is that the three major Semitic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are all very similar.

Spark wrote:

His point, to state the extreme obvious (even though many people... well, nearly everyone... can't see it), is that the three major Semitic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are all very similar.

True however the way the people choose to live by their religion is huge. Most Christians here in Scandinavia read the bible the way they want to basicly doing whatever they feel like and still call themselves Christians.

Seems this focuses on the what the followers of the faiths think and not on what the book actually says.

mcgid1 wrote:

Just a side note on the abortion topic.  If there is a clear medical reason (as in the mother will die if she gives birth/carrying the baby will kill her) then Christianity does allow for abortion.  Other than that, an exellent post.

Catholics don't.

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I would say Buddhism, but its not there, I don't like any religion but Buddhism never really causes any kind of problems in the world.

There is a difference between Christian Catholicism and Christian Protestant, and yet Protestant is not mentioned.

M.O.A.B wrote:

I would say Buddhism, but its not there, I don't like any religion but Buddhism never really causes any kind of problems in the world.

I wish I could say that, but no, actually Buddhism does.  For one, Myanmar is being ruled by a Buddhist military junta at the moment.  While many suggest they don't actually rule as a Buddhist government, they essentially use Buddhism as a propaganda tool to gain the support of the nation's predominantly Buddhist population.

Also in Myanmar, many Buddhists treat the Muslims there as second class citizens.

Some historians have compared the destructive nature of the Catholic Church toward other religions in the West with Buddhism's similar nature against other religions in the East.  Thankfully, the followers of both of these religions don't seem to behave the same way as some of their ancestors did, but the history of violence is still there.

I don't think any religion can claim innocence in terms of discrimination against other faiths.  Even atheists (mostly in Communist regimes) are guilty of oppressing others.

Turquoise wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Islam is the least open-minded since it advocates spreading the religion by killing those who aren't apart of it.

There was a time when Christianity did that.  It would seem that much of the Islamic World is currently in that mindset, but it is by no means unique to Islam.

It is unique to Islam because unlike Islam, Christianity advanced beyond the year 1200 and no longer does that.

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Islam is the least open-minded since it advocates spreading the religion by killing those who aren't apart of it.

There was a time when Christianity did that.  It would seem that much of the Islamic World is currently in that mindset, but it is by no means unique to Islam.

It is unique to Islam because unlike Islam, Christianity advanced beyond the year 1200 and no longer does that.

I think what we're seeing now is that Islam has had less time to advance than Christianity.  Remember, Islam is about 600 years younger than Christianity.  Also, keep in mind that Islamic countries tend to be poor or have bad wealth disparities.

Also, remember that many of the barbaric customs we see in the Middle East have more to do with pre-Islamic culture than Islam itself.  If these people were really living by Mohammed's standards, they wouldn't be stoning people or committing "honor killings."

So, I don't think you can completely blame Islam for this mess.  You can blame the fundamentalism of certain Imams and the lack of education in many of these countries.

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Generalizing a bit, here.

Where?

Your article picked Catholics only to describe a Christians view on abortion. Most versions of Christianity have the same view of "permitted in certain cases". The link you provided left that out and you decided to add that little blurb exclusively for Islam. How very open minded.

Animal rights and Islam... wonderful, maybe next they can tackle the issue of womens rights.

Capital punishment and Islam... Let's review some "open minded" reasons for capital punishment in Islam. Homosexual behavior, Terrorism, Rape, Adultery, Land, sea, or air piracy. Not to mention age doesn't seem to matter. Islam differs from Christianity in that it permits the death penalty for anyone who threatens to undermine authority or destabilize the state. If we were to apply that rule here in the States Cindy Sheehan would have been executed a long time ago. http://i2.tinypic.com/502t56g.jpg


I don't see how having an opinion anyways makes you less "open minded". It doesn't mean you have not considered the issue.

Save the rant for someone else.  I'm not saying Islam is better, I'm pointing they are very similar.  I left out a lot of issues.  Do you want to talk about artificial insemination?  I guess you don't.  And the homosexual behaviour is a hilarious comment to make, since a lot of catholic priests are pedophiles.  And you are generalizing when you relate Islam to terrorism.  Are the IRA and ETA Muslims?  Thanks.

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Where?

Your article picked Catholics only to describe a Christians view on abortion. Most versions of Christianity have the same view of "permitted in certain cases". The link you provided left that out and you decided to add that little blurb exclusively for Islam. How very open minded.

Animal rights and Islam... wonderful, maybe next they can tackle the issue of womens rights.

Capital punishment and Islam... Let's review some "open minded" reasons for capital punishment in Islam. Homosexual behavior, Terrorism, Rape, Adultery, Land, sea, or air piracy. Not to mention age doesn't seem to matter. Islam differs from Christianity in that it permits the death penalty for anyone who threatens to undermine authority or destabilize the state. If we were to apply that rule here in the States Cindy Sheehan would have been executed a long time ago. http://i2.tinypic.com/502t56g.jpg


I don't see how having an opinion anyways makes you less "open minded". It doesn't mean you have not considered the issue.

Save the rant for someone else.  I'm not saying Islam is better, I'm pointing they are very similar.  I left out a lot of issues.  Do you want to talk about artificial insemination?  I guess you don't.  And the homosexual behaviour is a hilarious comment to make, since a lot of catholic priests are pedophiles.  And you are generalizing when you relate Islam to terrorism.  Are the IRA and ETA Muslims?  Thanks.

How the hell did you get I was relating Islam to terrorism? The only person making assumptions here is you. For instance asking me if I wanted to talk about artificial insemination and then answering for me. Everything I cited is from YOUR LINKS. If you want to dispute something call it out, instead of staggering off into the safety of "generalization" land.

United Methodist Church-condemns capital punishment
Anglican & Episcopalian-condemns capital punishment
Roman Catholic Church-Only if it is the only option for defending human life. "If bloodless means are sufficient to defend human lives against an aggressor and to protect public order and the safety of persons, public authority must limit itself to such means, because they better correspond to the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity to the dignity of the human person".

None of the modern day versions of Christianity endorse capital punishment for "mischief". I'd say when dealing with religion and morality that is a huge difference.