Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6717
I imagine they used the defribulator with paddles in the game so your character wouldnt have to spend 30 seconds applying the adhesive pads to the persons chest and so forth. the paddles are nice and straightforward.

P.S if you check out the video for Quake Wars: Enemy Territory, theyre still using defribulators with paddles in the future. I guess we invented interstellar travel, but 20th century medical technology is still the best.
rgraze
Member
+6|6689
Yes there are stil paddles out there but you are seeing more and more of the pads kind. I've been a medic for nine years and I started with the paddles and went to pads.  I really dont think medics or corpsman even carry defibs in the field. The biggest concern with stabings and gsw is blood loss right away we start two IV's on the victim.  Unless its in the head, then the big concern is, when is the coroner getting here so I can leave.
Coolbeano
Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei
+378|6780

ThomasMorgan wrote:

i use an outlet and a fork.
omg that made me crack up soo much

you just made my day
Kamikaze17
Over the line!
+70|6765|Mark it zero.

imdead wrote:

Wife works at airport...you can imagine, why they need those there. I work at Area 51, jk, defense systems, I guess in case I get typing cramps.
well actually just about all big public places have them now because heart failure is a pretty common thing. airports, schools, some businesses, and whatever other places.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|6719|Little Rock, Arkansas
AAAKKKK!!!! The paramedic in me wants to go crazy shocking those with bad information.

So, manual defibs are what is used in the game. They are used to correct a number of heart problems, but the shock that you see on TV and in the game is MAINLY used to treat one problem: ventricular fibrillation. There are two major brands of manual defibs right now, Zoll and Medtronics. This is what they look like:

This is a Lifepak 12, by medtronics. It is the most popular unit in production. In the states, you will find at least one of these in every Emergency Department and every Operating Room. It is a biphasic unit (way too much science for you all), capable of monitoring a 12 lead EKG, blood oxygen saturation, noninvasive blood pressure, end-tial CO2 monitoring for intubated patients, and will even communicate with your computer via bluetooth.
https://www.mhfire.org/images/mhfirelifepack12large.JPG

These units are manufactured by Zoll. There are two major models, the E model, and the M model. The E model is what I carry on the ambulance everyday, and it is awesome. The M model is used by the ED and Surgical Services in my hospital, and is similar in function to the E, just with more bells and whistles.
https://www.zoll.com/E%20Series/E%20Series%20300-rgb.jpghttps://www.rosholt-international.bigstep.com/zoll.medical_files/zoll.medical-m.series.cct.large.jpg

So, onto the paddles. There are 4 major types of paddles that we use. Manual paddles, the sticky ones mentioned, pediatric paddles, and internal paddles. Manual paddles look like this: https://www.pflege-kurse.de/lektion10/bild/defiPaddles200x195.jpg They have a button on each that you press when everyone is clear of the body, sending an electric current between the two and *hopefully* restarting the heart to a normal (sinus) rhythm.

Sticky paddles are used on a patient that is unstable and continues to go into vfib, and look just like the ones that go with an AED. They have the advantage of the user not having to bend over the patient every time. They look like this: https://zoll-aed.com/optimized-photos/sticky-pads3-small.jpg

Pediatric paddles are smaller than normal adult paddles. Normally, they just slip on over standard paddles. They look like this: https://www.medtronic-ers.com/products/product_images/rel_prod_108.jpg

The last kind is internal paddles. They are for when the heart is exposed, as it open to the air. These paddles look like this: https://www.medtronic-ers.com/products/product_images/rel_prod_101.jpg

Any questions? Fire away.

Last edited by blisteringsilence (2006-01-21 02:48:54)

Viper007Bond
Moderator Emeritus
+236|6822|Portland, OR, USA

I use a defib to cook my bacon.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/044900892044e7fc95e599e832a086ae9bcd7efb.png
Rick_Biessman
Member
+4|6794|Germany
Nice post. There are the english terms I didn't find
This is a popular model here in Germany,
the corpuls 08/16 by GS and its brothers corpuls 08/15 and, very old, the corpuls 300.
https://www.corpuls.com/de/img/cp0816.jpg
Lifepaks are also known but the trend goes to corpuls here in preclinic,
but I don't know the trends in hospitals and so on.

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