..teddy..jimmy
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You have probably heard this one before but lets debate it nonetheless.

If you are deaf and a tree falls in the woods will it make a sound?

Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2007-05-05 12:48:20)

notorious
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Actually, this is kind of interesting.  If humans had no ears, would sound still exist?

Perhaps there are senses other than taste, touch, smell, sight, and sound that we don't know about...how do we know and can prove they exist?

This could also bring up the question of time.  Time is a manmade thing, so does it actually exist?
..teddy..jimmy
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ThomasMorgan wrote:

Actually, this is kind of interesting.  If humans had no ears, would sound still exist?

Perhaps there are senses other than taste, touch, smell, sight, and sound that we don't know about...how do we know and can prove they exist?

This could also bring up the question of time.  Time is a manmade thing, so does it actually exist?
Another similar topic is can we think without language, i.e can babies think?
RedTwizzler
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i3igpete wrote:

yes sound would still exist.  you can feel bass.
If you feel it, that's a tactile sensation, not audial.
PspRpg-7
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Well, just because nothing is around to receive the sound that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
usmarine
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Not a real good topic IMO.  Of course it makes a sound.  We use sound as a measurement tool, so it has to exist whether your ear drums pick it up or not.
..teddy..jimmy
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PspRpg-7 wrote:

Well, just because nothing is around to receive the sound that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
How do you know that, maybe the sound only exists to humans.
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

PspRpg-7 wrote:

Well, just because nothing is around to receive the sound that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
How do you know that, maybe the sound only exists to humans.
No, I don't know it for sure...But what about the sound wave?
Mekstizzle
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Yep. The air would still vibrate around. A "sound wave" would still be generated. And yes, we're not the center of the universe. Shit happened before we were around, shit will happen when we're gone.
Ryan
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

If you are deaf and a tree falls in the woods will it make a sound?
To you, it wouldn't make a noise, since you are incapable of hearing, but yes, it would make a sound.

Even if no one is around to hear it, it would make a sound.
That's like saying someone planted 100 tons of explosives in the face of a cliff, and then left it there.
It is a remote area, so no one is around. It will explode, and even though no one is around to see or hear it, people miles away would still hear the sound vibrations.

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

PspRpg-7 wrote:

Well, just because nothing is around to receive the sound that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
How do you know that, maybe the sound only exists to humans.
False. Dogs, cats, and pretty much every animal can hear.

Last edited by Ryan (2007-05-05 12:59:51)

jonsimon
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

You have probably heard this one before but lets debate it nonetheless.

If you are deaf and a tree falls in the woods will it make a sound?
Yes, you can detect audible vibrations through other means.
Kmar
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Yes, sounds can go unheard. Sounds happen around us everyday that are incapable of being picked up or interpreted by the human ear.
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usmarine
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More importantly, what came first?  The Chicken?  or the egg?
..teddy..jimmy
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usmarine2005 wrote:

More importantly, what came first?  The Chicken?  or the egg?
neither did..
usmarine
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

More importantly, what came first?  The Chicken?  or the egg?
neither did..
Where did the chicken come from then?
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Kmarion wrote:

Yes, sounds can go unheard. Sounds happen around us everyday that are incapable of being picked up or interpreted by the human ear.
so true ........ someone can let out a silent fart but it well still do the damage
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..teddy..jimmy
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usmarine2005 wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

More importantly, what came first?  The Chicken?  or the egg?
neither did..
Where did the chicken come from then?
*Takes on role of religous fanatic* "GOD!!"

Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2007-05-05 13:04:55)

xintegrityx
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usmarine2005 wrote:

More importantly, what came first?  The Chicken?  or the egg?
The egg - dinosaurs were the prehistoric ancestors of birds, and they laid eggs long before chickens were around

As for the question about a tree falling in the forest, it only seems difficult to answer because we commonly associate an occurrence of noise with an experience of noise. They are different things, and can exist independently of each other; the things we associate with a tree falling in the forest, namely the sound of branches breaking, the sight of the tree falling, etc., are only our cognitive interpretations of an event in the physical world, and so those things are not necessarily part and parcel of the actual event of the falling tree. I encourage anyone interested in questions like this to check out John Heil's introductory book on the philosophy of mind. It's a good primer if you're into things like cognitive science
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xintegrityx wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

More importantly, what came first?  The Chicken?  or the egg?
The egg - dinosaurs were the prehistoric ancestors of birds, and they laid eggs long before chickens were around

As for the question about a tree falling in the forest, it only seems difficult to answer because we commonly associate an occurrence of noise with an experience of noise. They are different things, and can exist independently of each other; the things we associate with a tree falling in the forest, namely the sound of branches breaking, the sight of the tree falling, etc., are only our cognitive interpretations of an event in the physical world, and so those things are not necessarily part and parcel of the actual event of the falling tree. I encourage anyone interested in questions like this to check out John Heil's introductory book on the philosophy of mind. It's a good primer if you're into things like cognitive science
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if a woman says something in the woods, where no one is around to hear her, will she still make a sound?
ATG
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I always thought this was a dumb question as it implies that man is so important that if he wasn't there sound would not exist.
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I hate ToK. So glad I'm done with that. Teddy, you in your last year or second to last?
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CoronadoSEAL wrote:

if a woman says something in the woods, where no one is around to hear her, will she still make a sound?
If that woman is in the woods, then she can hear herself.  So yes.
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Dwit
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CoronadoSEAL wrote:

if a woman says something in the woods, where no one is around to hear her, will she still make a sound?
Yes, women always make noise, duh....

Okay, on topic:

If you are deaf and a tree falls in the woods will it make a sound?
Yes, you are deaf, so you won't hear it. But what if someone else is next to you. He/she will hear it so it will make a sound.

Last edited by Dwit (2007-05-05 15:03:25)

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