JG1567JG wrote:
What is so complicated about the last 4 words of the second amendment.
Many flaws to your suggestions.
That`s why we are having a discussion !
JG1567JG wrote:
1. what is the point of belonging to a gun club? Is this where you would eventually have us keep our guns locked is some super secure safe?
It`s to get things organized thus continues training in using the gun, the more training the more secure the owner - and if you choose you may use the clubs safe to store your weapon !
JG1567JG wrote:
2. A certificate for each caliber of gun I buy what if I have two af the same caliber do I only need one certificate.
No ! The different weapons of same caliber will be on the same certificate !
JG1567JG wrote:
3. You want us to get a certificate before we get the gun but you want the BATFE to do a ballisic test before we can get the certificate and you want us to show we are capable of handling the gun before we can get it.
In other words you want us to get a certificate for a gun we are going to purchase that we cant get the certificate without the gun and cant get the gun with out the certificate.
Much of the same thing mixed together, you apply for the certificate at say a gunclub, you do the the test at the gunclub, you do the appointment at the doctor and the club has a date pr month where the ATF comes over to collect a testfired bullit !
JG1567JG wrote:
4. Ballistics change over the life of the gun and the owner can change the ballistics with a simple scratch in the barrel.
I don`t know how this would work out, it was just a thought to get the discussion going !
JG1567JG wrote:
5. I am not a hunter. I am a target shooter. I see no need to get a hunting license at the moment and shouldn't have to pay for one.
Different ways to solve that one, hunting license or membership at a target shooting range or gunclub !
JG1567JG wrote:
6. Who give these test because I have had no formal training and I know how to operate my glock and rifles better than many police officers I have come across. For instance. I was riding with a friend of mine that borrowed my .22 rifle to go hunting and we were pulled over by an Indiana State trooper. I forget what for, a minor traffic violation. He asked if we had an weapons in the car so my friend told him about the .22 behind the truck seat. He had him get out of the car and he grabbed the rifle and asked if it was loaded. My friend said ya and the trooper pulled the slide back and ejected one shell. Handed the rifle back to my friend with sixteen rounds in the tube under the barrel and one in the chamber. We corrected his mistake and told him that it was a Semi-auto and all he did was chamber the next round. Maybe that will help him down the road in staying alive.
Supervised by ATF perhaps, and dont judge the entire policeforce because of one single incident !
JG1567JG wrote:
7. What would be special about the collectors permits. Most already carry permit to carry.
Just another suggestion to spark the debate, and still you have not made one single countersuggestion !
JG1567JG wrote:
8. My doctor my not like guns and declare me and everybody unfit to own a gun. Would I ever get a second chance. Not likely
An doctor with a licence from ATF maybe to ensure fair judgement !
JG1567JG wrote:
9. Finally who is going to pay for all this the one getting the permit or certificate. Sounds expensive to me.
Hell, it has cost Canada over a Billion dollars just to try to register all their guns.
Are you now putting a price on the safety of your community ?
JG1567JG wrote:
I do have an Idea that might help. Lets enforce the 40,000+ gunlaws already on the books instead of just making new ones.
Yeah, why simplify a system that doesn`t work properly or that doesn`t yield a positive effect, lets say no to progress and change !
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