ShellShock.PwN wrote:
Well thats the thing 90% of people that find out a family member is in the wrong will do nothing to stop them, Why? because they are family and you dont want to turn on your family. I apologize, i dint realize you never said he was guilty but too many times ive seen player after player get involved in situation only to have them wronfully accused and ripped apart by the media. a player just got suspended for a year because he was at a club where a shooting took place. it was his party but it has not bin proven that he was the shooter. so its theese kind of topics that egg me on.
No, you got me right...just effing with you. I think Vick is guilty as hell. As for the other guy:
Who Pacman Jones?
A little history:
2005
On July 13, 2005 Jones was arrested on charges of assault and felony vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation.
On September 5, 2005 Jones was a guest at the annual Nashville Sports Council Kickoff Luncheon. After a loud verbal tantrum when he was told to wait in line for his vehicle later that evening, Jones was counseled by the police. He also refused to pay for any valet services used that evening.
In October 2005, in a petition filed by the State of West Virginia, it was alleged that Jones had not made regular and sufficient contact with his probation officer and that he did not report his July arrest in Nashville in a timely fashion. The court ordered the probation extended for a period of 90 days, although the state requested it to be extended one year.
2006
On August 25, 2006, Jones was arrested in Murfreesboro, Tennessee for disorderly conduct and public intoxication after claiming that a woman stole his wallet. She claimed that she did not steal anything and Jones spat on her. Police officers said they ordered Jones to leave several times, but he refused, continuing to shout profanities at the woman. A judge granted him six months probation on the conditions that he stays out of further trouble and away from the nightclub.
On October 26, 2006. Jones was cited for misdemeanor assault for allegedly spitting in the face of a female student from Tennessee State University during a private party at Club Mystic, a Nashville nightclub. He was suspended by the Titans for one game and was scheduled to be booked on the charge on November 17, 2006.
2007
Feburary 16-18, 2007, during the 2007 NBA All-Star Game weekend in Las Vegas, Jones is alleged to have been involved in an altercation with an exotic dancer at a local strip club. According to the club's co-owner, Jones approached the stage with a garbage bag filled with approximately $81,000 in one-dollar bills. Jones proceeded to throw the money into the air over the exotic dancers for a dramatic effect, an act known as "making it rain". Becoming enraged when one of the dancers began taking the money without his permission, Jones grabbed her by her hair and slammed her head on the stage. A security guard intervened and scuffled with members of Jones' entourage of half a dozen people, during which time Jones allegedly bit the guard on the lower leg. Jones then allegedly threatened the guard's life. After the patrons of the club exited, the club owner says a person in Jones' entourage returned with a gun and fired into a crowd, hitting three people, including the security guard involved in the earlier skirmish. Although the guard was shot twice, one of the people hit, former professional wrestler Tommy Urbanski, was paralyzed from the waist down. Jones maintains that he did not know the shooter, although the club's owner insists that Jones did. On March 26, 2007 the Las Vegas Police recommended to the city's district attorney that Jones be charged with one count of felony coercion and also a misdemeanor count of battery and a misdemeanor count of threat to life.
More trouble followed Jones after the altercation, when drug dealer Darryl Moore reported to the police after being busted during a deal about his phone conversations with Jones. "We gotta slow down, man. We gotta get him focused on football, man. He's focused on too much other shit," Moore is alleged to have said. Wiretapped phone conversations between Moore and his friends revealed Moore talking about how Jones bet on college games to earn quick money. "You know, I was talkin' to him the other day about smokin', and he was like 'man, if I didn't smoke I couldn't take all the stress that I'm dealing with right now,'" Moore said.
Boy, it sure sounds like a setup to me, since he "only" incited the incident that lead to a shooting (if it wasn't him). My favorite is the tantrum thing in 2005, where he was invited to be a guest in front of hundreds of high school and lower grades to show them how to act when they have it made.
Get a grip. Pacman is a big suck bag and has no business being in society, much less making millions of dollars.
Don't you think it's about time we remove the privileges that go along with playing a sport if you can't act appropriately?
But even beyond that, that's say that Pacman is being framed - why is he hanging around a drug dealer? How smart is that? And poor Vick, his cousin's criminal background doesn't factor into the equation? Like I said, it's gonna bite them in the ass and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
My fantasy football league has a prize BTW - the first person who has a player arrested has to pay everyone $5. The longest we've made it is week 3. Considering the fact that we are only drafting about 1/5 of the players in the NFL, that says a lot.
Frankly I'm sick of hearing about the poor millionaires who can't live without breaking the law, how they've been given a raw deal because they don't have the common sense to put themselves in situations that don't result in allegations. And for effs sake, look to people like Tiger or Andre Agassi or Wayne Gretzky. You have a choice when you are a pro, you reap what you sow.