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That's why it's called theater time and not army time. It's the time you've spend in the army's maps regardless if you've played with that particulair army or the opposing force.

And those theater times are exactly what's needed for the army ribbons

Last edited by Fatbubba (2006-01-19 13:27:51)

What are the actual requirements for the ribbons in SF? I have seen a lot of talk about what they may be, but I haven't found anything on the sites that tells me what they really are. Does anyone know?

INCSOC wrote:

=TH=[Eleanor]-NL- wrote:

INCSOC, try having a look at page one of this topic, you'll understand than...

i've read the entire post... it still doesn't make any sense, it doesn't add up... lets make an example:

A person plays Gulf with an USMC for 10 hours, the time in theater will show 10 hours for USMC and 10 hours for MEC.  This is incorrect as it does not qualify you for the MEC time in theater.  If this was done correctly the total of time in theater time will add up to your total time, and would infact be identical to the regular Army stats.  These stats shown are useless.   

To do the time in theater correctly one would have to identify the ammount of hours PER map PER side.  For example Mr. X played 10 hours on the Gulf map, 7 hours for USMC and 3 hours for MEC.  then Mr. X played SS map for 20 hours 13 hours for USMC and 7 hours for PLA.  the army stats would show the following:

USMC 20h
MEC 3h
PLA 7h

but time in theater should show this:
USMC:
Gulf: 7
SS: 13

MEC:
GUlf: 3

PLA:
SS: 7

you see what i mean?

Time in USMC Theater would be the 10 hours on Gulf + the 20 on SS= 30.  It does NOT matter which side you play. While on SS (or any map) as USMC for those 13 hours you racked up 13 hours in a USMC theater map AND 13 hours in a PLA map.  Same goes for the 7 hours as PLA.  7 hours in a PLA theater map AND 7 hours in a USMC Theater map.  Basically, your time in theater totals for all 3 armies will always be double your time on BF2 Vanilla.  Repeat the process for SF.

If the game did what you suggested, all it would be doing is counting your time spent playing a given army (again!).

Last edited by DakkonBlackblade (2006-01-19 15:36:49)

Apparently this is a very, very confusing concept.

chuyskywalker wrote:

Apparently this is a very, very confusing concept.

i understand the concept chuy... the point is that it tells you nothing....

say the MEC ribbon has the recs of
Time in theater: 25h
TIme in service: 25h

if I played Gulf as a mec for 25h, your stats would show the following:
TOTALS:
USMC time = 0h
MEC time = 25h

Time in Theater:
USMC = 25h
MEC = 25h

as you can see by THESE stats this "qualifies" me for the ribbon by the stats ... but it does NOT in the game because thats not what Time in theater IS...

to prove this, look at these 2 people:

Gerard_Tham - No MEC ribbon http://bf2s.com/player/45295602/
MEC TOTAL: 20:48 MEC TiT: 37:40

Huggy_Bear1234 - with MEC ribbon http://bf2s.com/player/43419926/
MEC TOTAL: 11:17 MEC TiT: 27:36

with your logic Gerard should have the ribbon a long time ago ... the logic is wrong

Last edited by INCSOC (2006-01-19 16:15:25)

Dear god, why are people finding this so confusing? A theater is just the area of combat, regardless of which side you fight on - this makes some more sense if you look at just the original BF2.

On Kubra Dam, you can fight as either US or MEC - fighting as either counts towards your time in the desert (and the Middle East Theater ribbon). Similarly, time in China should count towards your China maps (Far East) time. Since all of them are also US maps, your time also counts as being in theatres the US fights in. So adding all your stats up across forces will be twice your actual (ie, 1hr on Kubra counts as an hour in MEC battles and as an hour in US battles - they are both in it). With the two original ribbons, this was obvious - whichever side you fought on, you worked towards the MEC map ribbon or China ribbon (with the US counting to either).

Where people start to get confused is looking at the SF maps - the round robin between the armies means that all 6 forces have a ribbon, and the time on map counts towards 2 requirements (ribbon for both forces). If you add all the separate stats up, this will obviously be twice your time, etc.

Does this make sense?

midgetspy wrote:

Does "Flash" include Tear Gas Grenades?

Nic

i think so, because i rarely use flashbang since i hardly play assault. so my 99 deployments have to be mostly tear gar.

dunno if EA xml feed seperates flash bangs from tear gas - look at the "Basic Tactical Support Weaponry Badge", there counts flash & tear gas ...

=TH=[Eleanor]-NL- wrote:

Yes, I found that out, I hoped I made that clear in my post, presumably i didn't...

But still, it is confusing information if you ask me, I don't really know what to do with it, it's not of much use...

BTW, call me a n00b if you want, but why is BF2 called BF2 vanilla? Is vanilla a word of "original" or something? I see it has been used often, and I know the normal BF2 is meant with it, but why call it vanilla?

It's not that confusing, I looked at it confused for maybe 30 seconds before I figured it all out. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it's useful info or not, but I don't really care, the more stats the better. This site really stands out as the best one to look at to get a detailed stats analysis.

chief-robertsan wrote:

What are the actual requirements for the ribbons in SF? I have seen a lot of talk about what they may be, but I haven't found anything on the sites that tells me what they really are. Does anyone know?

- Play all maps for that army.
- 50 Hours in theatre for that army.
- 5 Hours in service for that army.

[FB]Eraser wrote:

Kobrakai wrote:

- Play all maps for that army.
- 50 Hours in theatre for that army.
- 5 Hours in service for that army.

This seems to be correct. I was going trough many stats now, from fellas who earned the Service Ribbons. Only the ones that have over 50 hrs in Theater have them...

...what also means, that these theater stats are usefull, regardless if some ppl don't like them ;-)

I've heard that the Insurgent Service ribbon might have lower requirements than the rest, but all the others seem to hold by this requirement.

Do you also have to have a B.R. score of 80 or greater?

GREAT job chuy. no matter wat sum ppl r saying, these stats are very useful/helpful. im sure when the ones that dont understand the whole theatre thing finally figure it out, they will thank u 2. Nice job on the zipline, flash, and grappling hook stats too, now i dont have to go to a completely different site to see how many i have. Thanks again.