Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.sergeriver wrote:
Are the Arab states in the Security Council?lowing wrote:
Oh I see, so the Arab states are all of a sudden the rational ones within the UN. I see now. I should have guessed by the way they run their countries.
The Kurds and the Armenians probably.lowing wrote:
Well, next to the American Indians, who else should have their turn?Sanjaya wrote:
It's their time to shine now, lowing.lowing wrote:
LOL, the Jews are the oppressors in history......NOW that, is a good one.
Israel was a US proxy during the Cold War, when the Soviets were providing significant amounts of aid to Egypt. Since then a powerful pro-Israeli lobby has developed in the US, and you should know well that politicians are nearly always for sale. It's not about right or wrong, it's about money.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.
For me it is right or wrong, the second Israel flies airplanes into building or finances it, or trains people to do it. Or sends out squadrons of suicide bombers. I will not suppor tthemSanjaya wrote:
The Kurds and the Armenians probably.lowing wrote:
Well, next to the American Indians, who else should have their turn?Sanjaya wrote:
It's their time to shine now, lowing.Israel was a US proxy during the Cold War, when the Soviets were providing significant amounts of aid to Egypt. Since then a powerful pro-Israeli lobby has developed in the US, and you should know well that politicians are nearly always for sale. It's not about right or wrong, it's about money.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.
I really don't know. In fact, US supporting Israel makes things more difficult to the US.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.sergeriver wrote:
Are the Arab states in the Security Council?lowing wrote:
Oh I see, so the Arab states are all of a sudden the rational ones within the UN. I see now. I should have guessed by the way they run their countries.
Let me understand your point. If you kill someone killing yourself in the act, is that worse than killing a lot of people using a missile without putting your life at risk? I think killing people is wrong. Period.lowing wrote:
For me it is right or wrong, the second Israel flies airplanes into building or finances it, or trains people to do it. Or sends out squadrons of suicide bombers. I will not suppor tthemSanjaya wrote:
The Kurds and the Armenians probably.lowing wrote:
Well, next to the American Indians, who else should have their turn?Israel was a US proxy during the Cold War, when the Soviets were providing significant amounts of aid to Egypt. Since then a powerful pro-Israeli lobby has developed in the US, and you should know well that politicians are nearly always for sale. It's not about right or wrong, it's about money.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.
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Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?sergeriver wrote:
I really don't know. In fact, US supporting Israel makes things more difficult to the US.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.sergeriver wrote:
Are the Arab states in the Security Council?lowing wrote:
Oh I see, so the Arab states are all of a sudden the rational ones within the UN. I see now. I should have guessed by the way they run their countries.Let me understand your point. If you kill someone killing yourself in the act, is that worse than killing a lot of people using a missile without putting your life at risk? I think killing people is wrong. Period.lowing wrote:
For me it is right or wrong, the second Israel flies airplanes into building or finances it, or trains people to do it. Or sends out squadrons of suicide bombers. I will not suppor tthemSanjaya wrote:
The Kurds and the Armenians probably.
Israel was a US proxy during the Cold War, when the Soviets were providing significant amounts of aid to Egypt. Since then a powerful pro-Israeli lobby has developed in the US, and you should know well that politicians are nearly always for sale. It's not about right or wrong, it's about money.
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html
Once again, no outrage, by anyone.
They must be saving up for the next time we put a burlap sack on someone's head.
Once again, no outrage, by anyone.
They must be saving up for the next time we put a burlap sack on someone's head.
Killing innocents? Are you kidding me? The USA even trying to prevent innocent deaths? What about the Napalming in Baghdad?lowing wrote:
Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.
-konfusion
Civilians are going to die in war, there was a major fight there underway, unless you can show me where the US purposely targeted women and children in this attack your point is moot.konfusion wrote:
Killing innocents? Are you kidding me? The USA even trying to prevent innocent deaths? What about the Napalming in Baghdad?lowing wrote:
Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.
-konfusion
I was talking about the the BF2 forum poster when I was said pay no attention to him (Sanjaya)Sanjaya wrote:
Too bad he's Hindu. But they're all the same, right?theelviscerator wrote:
Pay no attention to the Sangina.
Actually he is just a normal muslim kid these days.
Scary huh?
I was talking about the 12 year old beheader (Afghan) when I was talking about the muslim.
How anyone could construe that otherwise is beyond me.
Context people.
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Totally hypocritical lowing. You say killing innocent people is wrong but then say...lowing wrote:
Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?sergeriver wrote:
I really don't know. In fact, US supporting Israel makes things more difficult to the US.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.sergeriver wrote:
Are the Arab states in the Security Council?lowing wrote:
Oh I see, so the Arab states are all of a sudden the rational ones within the UN. I see now. I should have guessed by the way they run their countries.Let me understand your point. If you kill someone killing yourself in the act, is that worse than killing a lot of people using a missile without putting your life at risk? I think killing people is wrong. Period.lowing wrote:
For me it is right or wrong, the second Israel flies airplanes into building or finances it, or trains people to do it. Or sends out squadrons of suicide bombers. I will not suppor tthem
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.
as if that makes it more acceptable. Suicide bombers could say they only set out to kill certain people at their target destination and don't mean to get all the other bystanders, it will still be a barbaric act.lowing wrote:
Civilians are going to die in war, there was a major fight there underway, unless you can show me where the US purposely targeted women and children in this attack your point is moot.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0724-06.htm Israel are murdering bastards, just like the 'terrorists' they say are fighting.
I for one am fucking outraged. Death to all infidel Islam extremists. I say that with a real fucking passion as well.lowing wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/22/iraq.main.ap/index.html
Once again, no outrage, by anyone.
They must be saving up for the next time we put a burlap sack on someone's head.
Are you saying you do not think there is a difference between setting out to hunt down women and children, and women and children getting caught up in a crossfire, or the battle itself?Braddock wrote:
Totally hypocritical lowing. You say killing innocent people is wrong but then say...lowing wrote:
Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?sergeriver wrote:
I really don't know. In fact, US supporting Israel makes things more difficult to the US.lowing wrote:
Nope, but all of the countries that do business with them are. It has already been proven that France and Russia have ulterior motives for how they vote, and it has nothing to do with the actual issue voted on. The Us gains nothing by supporting Israel, they do so out of a sense of right and wrong. How does supporting Israel help the US? Please do not say it gives us a foot hold in the ME. We could have a better foot hold there by opposing Israel rather than supporting them.sergeriver wrote:
Are the Arab states in the Security Council?lowing wrote:
Oh I see, so the Arab states are all of a sudden the rational ones within the UN. I see now. I should have guessed by the way they run their countries.
Let me understand your point. If you kill someone killing yourself in the act, is that worse than killing a lot of people using a missile without putting your life at risk? I think killing people is wrong. Period.
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.as if that makes it more acceptable. Suicide bombers could say they only set out to kill certain people at their target destination and don't mean to get all the other bystanders, it will still be a barbaric act.lowing wrote:
Civilians are going to die in war, there was a major fight there underway, unless you can show me where the US purposely targeted women and children in this attack your point is moot.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0724-06.htm Israel are murdering bastards, just like the 'terrorists' they say are fighting.
I never said it was acceptable, it is however the realities of war. People die. The US goes to great lengths to keep those numbers as low as possible.
My point is Israel conduct strikes that are quite obviously going to kill loads of civilians in order to get their primary target, you can't turn around afterwards and say "that's a shame, ideally we'd liked to have got just the 'bad guy'". As far as the US are concerned, I have a radical new technique that greatly curbs civilian casualties ...not blowing up cities with air strikes.lowing wrote:
Are you saying you do not think there is a difference between setting out to hunt down women and children, and women and children getting caught up in a crossfire, or the battle itself?Braddock wrote:
Totally hypocritical lowing. You say killing innocent people is wrong but then say...lowing wrote:
Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.as if that makes it more acceptable. Suicide bombers could say they only set out to kill certain people at their target destination and don't mean to get all the other bystanders, it will still be a barbaric act.lowing wrote:
Civilians are going to die in war, there was a major fight there underway, unless you can show me where the US purposely targeted women and children in this attack your point is moot.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0724-06.htm Israel are murdering bastards, just like the 'terrorists' they say are fighting.
I never said it was acceptable, it is however the realities of war. People die. The US goes to great lengths to keep those numbers as low as possible.
It again comes down to the common perception that if you kill someone with a crude homemade device it is more barbaric than killing someone in an expensive aircraft or tank when at the end of the day it's the same thing. I do not in any way condone suicide bombings but your assertion that they set out to kill women and children could be argued ...I would wager that if you offered a Palestinian suicide bomber (just as an example) the choice between killing 20 Israeli women and children or 20 Israeli men, with no women or children present, they'd opt for the latter.
I do not blame Israel for conducting operations where women and children are going to get killed. They have no choice, Hamas and Hezzbola shield themselves with women and children while conducting attacks against Israel, then screams murderer when Israel strikes back and those "shields" get killed. IMO it is Hamas ans Hezzbola that are the murderers of their own people, they simple use Israel as their weapon to kill them.Braddock wrote:
My point is Israel conduct strikes that are quite obviously going to kill loads of civilians in order to get their primary target, you can't turn around afterwards and say "that's a shame, ideally we'd liked to have got just the 'bad guy'". As far as the US are concerned, I have a radical new technique that greatly curbs civilian casualties ...not blowing up cities with air strikes.lowing wrote:
Are you saying you do not think there is a difference between setting out to hunt down women and children, and women and children getting caught up in a crossfire, or the battle itself?Braddock wrote:
Totally hypocritical lowing. You say killing innocent people is wrong but then say...lowing wrote:
Killing someone who is innocent is worse, I don't give 2 fucks if they wanna strap on a bomb vest and blow each other up. Shit, I will buy a fuckin ticket to watch that. But that isn't what they are doing is it?
As far as the missle thing goes. THe US spends billions on R and D to try and minimize innocent deaths as much as possible during a war.
as if that makes it more acceptable. Suicide bombers could say they only set out to kill certain people at their target destination and don't mean to get all the other bystanders, it will still be a barbaric act.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0724-06.htm Israel are murdering bastards, just like the 'terrorists' they say are fighting.
I never said it was acceptable, it is however the realities of war. People die. The US goes to great lengths to keep those numbers as low as possible.
It again comes down to the common perception that if you kill someone with a crude homemade device it is more barbaric than killing someone in an expensive aircraft or tank when at the end of the day it's the same thing. I do not in any way condone suicide bombings but your assertion that they set out to kill women and children could be argued ...I would wager that if you offered a Palestinian suicide bomber (just as an example) the choice between killing 20 Israeli women and children or 20 Israeli men, with no women or children present, they'd opt for the latter.
Well at least that's out in the open - lowing condones state terror.lowing wrote:
I do not blame Israel for conducting operations where women and children are going to get killed. They have no choice, Hamas and Hezzbola shield themselves with women and children while conducting attacks against Israel, then screams murderer when Israel strikes back and those "shields" get killed. IMO it is Hamas ans Hezzbola that are the murderers of their own people, they simple use Israel as their weapon to kill them.
Hmmmmm, did I say that?? If your definition of state terrorism is defending yourself against people that launch attacks on you from behind women and children, so you can protect your own women and children, then yes I guess I do.CameronPoe wrote:
Well at least that's out in the open - lowing condones state terror.lowing wrote:
I do not blame Israel for conducting operations where women and children are going to get killed. They have no choice, Hamas and Hezzbola shield themselves with women and children while conducting attacks against Israel, then screams murderer when Israel strikes back and those "shields" get killed. IMO it is Hamas ans Hezzbola that are the murderers of their own people, they simple use Israel as their weapon to kill them.
No my definition of state terror includes (but is not limited to):lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, did I say that?? If your definition of state terrorism is defending yourself against people that launch attacks on you from behind women and children, so you can protect your own women and children, then yes I guess I do.CameronPoe wrote:
Well at least that's out in the open - lowing condones state terror.lowing wrote:
I do not blame Israel for conducting operations where women and children are going to get killed. They have no choice, Hamas and Hezzbola shield themselves with women and children while conducting attacks against Israel, then screams murderer when Israel strikes back and those "shields" get killed. IMO it is Hamas ans Hezzbola that are the murderers of their own people, they simple use Israel as their weapon to kill them.
- Unwarranted collective punishment (bulldozing homes, etc.).
- Detention without charge or trial (internment).
- Extra-judicial killing whilst imprisoned.
- Prevention of medical services reaching injured/dying innocent civilians.
- Building settlements and permanent outposts on illegally occupied land that belongs to others.
- Government sanctioned deliberate destruction of farms and business to weaken the economy.
- Systematic torture/beatings of captured people (whether innocent or guilty).
- Acquitting soldiers of what would ordinarily be deemed crimes (happened on several occasions).
- Government sanctioned wanton destruction of the infrastructure of neighbouring countries whose the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Government sanctioned wanton murder of the civilian populace of neighbouring countries the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Establishing large open air economic blackholes similar to the Warsaw Ghetto in order to collectively punish and in order to strangle a nascent state.
Hmmmmmm, but I see, blowing up commuter trains, airliners, skyscrapers, hotels, markets, cars full of children, schools, ships, embassies, and beheading videos does not make your list. Oh well, I guess that is why they are called opinions.CameronPoe wrote:
No my definition of state terror includes (but is not limited to):lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, did I say that?? If your definition of state terrorism is defending yourself against people that launch attacks on you from behind women and children, so you can protect your own women and children, then yes I guess I do.CameronPoe wrote:
Well at least that's out in the open - lowing condones state terror.
- Unwarranted collective punishment (bulldozing homes, etc.).
- Detention without charge or trial (internment).
- Extra-judicial killing whilst imprisoned.
- Prevention of medical services reaching injured/dying innocent civilians.
- Building settlements and permanent outposts on illegally occupied land that belongs to others.
- Government sanctioned deliberate destruction of farms and business to weaken the economy.
- Systematic torture/beatings of captured people (whether innocent or guilty).
- Acquitting soldiers of what would ordinarily be deemed crimes (happened on several occasions).
- Government sanctioned wanton destruction of the infrastructure of neighbouring countries whose the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Government sanctioned wanton murder of the civilian populace of neighbouring countries the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Establishing large open air economic blackholes similar to the Warsaw Ghetto in order to collectively punish and in order to strangle a nascent state.
What's your point lowing? I don't condone any of those things you listed. Perhaps you can point out some examples of where I've ever stated that such things could ever be condoned. Those are examples of standard terrorism, not state terrorism.lowing wrote:
Hmmmmmm, but I see, blowing up commuter trains, airliners, skyscrapers, hotels, markets, cars full of children, schools, ships, embassies, and beheading videos does not make your list. Oh well, I guess that is why they are called opinions.CameronPoe wrote:
No my definition of state terror includes (but is not limited to):lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, did I say that?? If your definition of state terrorism is defending yourself against people that launch attacks on you from behind women and children, so you can protect your own women and children, then yes I guess I do.
- Unwarranted collective punishment (bulldozing homes, etc.).
- Detention without charge or trial (internment).
- Extra-judicial killing whilst imprisoned.
- Prevention of medical services reaching injured/dying innocent civilians.
- Building settlements and permanent outposts on illegally occupied land that belongs to others.
- Government sanctioned deliberate destruction of farms and business to weaken the economy.
- Systematic torture/beatings of captured people (whether innocent or guilty).
- Acquitting soldiers of what would ordinarily be deemed crimes (happened on several occasions).
- Government sanctioned wanton destruction of the infrastructure of neighbouring countries whose the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Government sanctioned wanton murder of the civilian populace of neighbouring countries the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Establishing large open air economic blackholes similar to the Warsaw Ghetto in order to collectively punish and in order to strangle a nascent state.
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Really, I thought the 911 finacing came from the Saudi Govt.CameronPoe wrote:
What's your point lowing? I don't condone any of those things you listed. Perhaps you can point out some examples of where I've ever stated that such things could ever be condoned. Those are examples of standard terrorism, not state terrorism.lowing wrote:
Hmmmmmm, but I see, blowing up commuter trains, airliners, skyscrapers, hotels, markets, cars full of children, schools, ships, embassies, and beheading videos does not make your list. Oh well, I guess that is why they are called opinions.CameronPoe wrote:
No my definition of state terror includes (but is not limited to):
- Unwarranted collective punishment (bulldozing homes, etc.).
- Detention without charge or trial (internment).
- Extra-judicial killing whilst imprisoned.
- Prevention of medical services reaching injured/dying innocent civilians.
- Building settlements and permanent outposts on illegally occupied land that belongs to others.
- Government sanctioned deliberate destruction of farms and business to weaken the economy.
- Systematic torture/beatings of captured people (whether innocent or guilty).
- Acquitting soldiers of what would ordinarily be deemed crimes (happened on several occasions).
- Government sanctioned wanton destruction of the infrastructure of neighbouring countries whose the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Government sanctioned wanton murder of the civilian populace of neighbouring countries the government and the majority of whose people did not attack them.
- Establishing large open air economic blackholes similar to the Warsaw Ghetto in order to collectively punish and in order to strangle a nascent state.
I thought Hamas was a state govt.
NO I know you do not condone these acts Cam, but you didn't list them at all, not even as a low priority.
a) Palestine is not a state or a nation as yet.lowing wrote:
Really, I thought the 911 finacing came from the Saudi Govt.
I thought Hamas was a state govt.
NO I know you do not condone these acts Cam, but you didn't list them at all, not even as a low priority.
b) Why would the Saudi Arabian government finance the 9/11 attacks when they have a vested interest in the US economy and are personal friends with the Bush dynasty?
Oh, well shit if Palestine does not exist, and Israel does, what is everyone bitching about? How can you complain that your land was taken away when you really never had it ot begin with?CameronPoe wrote:
a) Palestine is not a state or a nation as yet.lowing wrote:
Really, I thought the 911 finacing came from the Saudi Govt.
I thought Hamas was a state govt.
NO I know you do not condone these acts Cam, but you didn't list them at all, not even as a low priority.
b) Why would the Saudi Arabian government finance the 9/11 attacks when they have a vested interest in the US economy and are personal friends with the Bush dynasty?
I dunno Cam, but was it not determained that the Saudi's had a part in it?
Saudi Arabian PEOPLE were involved, not their government. Can you not differentiate between individuals and governments or something? There are enough Bush-haters in America for you to realise that.lowing wrote:
Oh, well shit if Palestine does not exist, and Israel does, what is everyone bitching about? How can you complain that your land was taken away when you really never had it ot begin with?CameronPoe wrote:
a) Palestine is not a state or a nation as yet.lowing wrote:
Really, I thought the 911 finacing came from the Saudi Govt.
I thought Hamas was a state govt.
NO I know you do not condone these acts Cam, but you didn't list them at all, not even as a low priority.
b) Why would the Saudi Arabian government finance the 9/11 attacks when they have a vested interest in the US economy and are personal friends with the Bush dynasty?
I dunno Cam, but was it not determained that the Saudi's had a part in it?
Palestine will exist lowing. It will exist because it should exist. Even your beloved president feigns a desire to see a Palestinian state.
Saudis has a part in it, but not the Saudi government. The average Saudi Arabian is not very happy with the extreme pro-western stance the Saudi King takes.lowing wrote:
Oh, well shit if Palestine does not exist, and Israel does, what is everyone bitching about? How can you complain that your land was taken away when you really never had it ot begin with?CameronPoe wrote:
a) Palestine is not a state or a nation as yet.lowing wrote:
Really, I thought the 911 finacing came from the Saudi Govt.
I thought Hamas was a state govt.
NO I know you do not condone these acts Cam, but you didn't list them at all, not even as a low priority.
b) Why would the Saudi Arabian government finance the 9/11 attacks when they have a vested interest in the US economy and are personal friends with the Bush dynasty?
I dunno Cam, but was it not determained that the Saudi's had a part in it?
Whether Palestine exists or not its people and their descendants do. These people are entitled to return to their homeland. One of the key aims of the Israeli government is to get the Palestinian people to renounce their right of return (a right which has not been upheld by the Israeli government (despite a UN resolution stating that Israel must allow the Palestians to return to their homes), yet ironically it is this very principle that led to the mass immigration by Jews to Palestine).
lol. Where do you live? Kabul?rdx-fx wrote:
Easy to find 'true' muslims wandering the streets, eager to kill and die for the sake of 'sticking it to the Americans'..
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