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CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Gitmo etc.... is way different than what is happening in this article and you know it. Gitmo exists and tortures accured to gain information and intel to help save coalition lives, maybe even end the war sooner. It was not done for pleasure. I guess we could have tried to ask the POW's nicely to tell us all they knew but I doubt that it would have worked. Prisoners have been interogated for thousands of years by every country on the planet. Now that some dumb fuck posts pictures of it on the internet all of a sudden the US invented this technique for information gathering. I say this, not even agreeing that the US has done anything to these POW's that would come close to the real torture that has been done in the ME or Europe over the years.


Real Muslims? are these the Muslims that hold women lower than a fucking dog in society?

Unlike you Lowing I have principles when it comes to things like torture. I will NEVER entertain the thought of condoning or turning a blind eye to my representatives ceding the moral high ground by sanctioning such unrpincipled and depraved behaviour. My how America has changed. Now torture is OK! Well excuse me while I frown upon that for a while. As John McCain testified: torture mostly brings forth information of zero usefulness, himself having suffered at the hands of the Vietnamese in a concentration camp for several years. People will say anything, true or false, under extreme physical/mental duress. I'm sure if I was subjected to torture I'd confess to the fucking Kennedy hit if I thought it would ease the pain.

This sickens me lowing. You are expressing outrage at the fact that muslims aren't protesting outside your front door to show their disgust and yet you sit here and post the pros of something that brings your country into serious disrepute. It's quite ironic.

Who else engages in torture should not concern you if you are principled. Just because someone starts sending jews to gas chambers doesn't mean it's ok for others. Just because I rob a bank doesn't mean it's ok for you to rob a bank.

Ask m3thod about women - he's a real muslim. Better yet - ask a muslim woman.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8042

See in the article how reformists are trying to change things so women can stand for president in Iran? They can already be elected to parliament. I didn't realise dogs could run for office in USA. I guess they don't show that on Fox do they lowing?


PS You may not have noticed but this wasn't a religion based execution: it was a traitor-based one.

theelviscerator wrote:

Pay no attention to the Sangina.


Actually he is just a normal muslim kid these days.

Scary huh?

Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Meh...they are all over the TV when something happens to them by big bad whitey.  yet nowhere to be seen when something like this happens.

Cartoon =  Bad

Cutting of head =  Who cares?

But those aren't the average Muslims. The average Muslims are people just like you or I that do not condone terrorism of any sort, and just want to be left alone.

Then they should take action and not let it happen.

lowing wrote:

I hope you try and remember your disgust if you ever held the person with knowledge of the whereaabouts of a family member who is life is on a time limit.

I know this is an extreme analogy, however, it is the life or death of fellow soldiers and civilians possibly at stake.

Besides, we put a burlap sack on the heads of a criminal and stack them in a pyromid and we are torturing and have to put up with the worldwide outrage of it. Terrorists use children as bombs, make beheading videos, plant IED's on corpes and dead animals, and nothing is said by the Muslims???!!. Gimme a fuckin' break.

Last edited by konfusion (2007-04-22 03:23:56)

konfusion wrote:

Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

But those aren't the average Muslims. The average Muslims are people just like you or I that do not condone terrorism of any sort, and just want to be left alone.

Then they should take action and not let it happen.

You know what? Then you should not let priests molest little children. Then you should not have let bush become president. Then you should not let people torture in your country. Then you should get rid of Guantanamo Bay.
Guess what? Not everything is under your control. Especially in a semi-anarchist country!

lowing wrote:

I hope you try and remember your disgust if you ever held the person with knowledge of the whereaabouts of a family member who is life is on a time limit.

I know this is an extreme analogy, however, it is the life or death of fellow soldiers and civilians possibly at stake.

Besides, we put a burlap sack on the heads of a criminal and stack them in a pyromid and we are torturing and have to put up with the worldwide outrage of it. Terrorists use children as bombs, make beheading videos, plant IED's on corpes and dead animals, and nothing is said by the Muslims???!!. Gimme a fuckin' break.

As you may have noticed, the USA has money, education, a relatively good government, and is not a developing country. And this kind of stuff still goes on there. It makes the US not only no different from Middle-Eastern countries, but possibly worse, as the USA would be more likely to be able to prevent it, and people have higher standards for a first world country.

-konfusion

Last edited by lowing (2007-04-22 03:31:09)

lowing wrote:

We DON'T let priests molest children....they get arrested and thrown in jail as soon as they are caught.
We DIDN'T let Bush become president........we voted for him to do so.
WE DON'T allow torture in this country......All accused were arrested, demoted loss of pay dishonorable discharged and sent to jail.

lowing wrote:

Funny how public opinion can not bring changes in the world EXCEPT in America. I am kinda proud of that. I guess, the Muslims coming out against terrorism is fruitless, but to come out against a burlap sack and pyramid stacking can move mountains. I get it now.

lowing wrote:

konfusion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Funny how public opinion can not bring changes in the world EXCEPT in America. I am kinda proud of that. I guess, the Muslims coming out against terrorism is fruitless, but to come out against a burlap sack and pyramid stacking can move mountains. I get it now.

xD
Well, that's just it. They were terrorists. Can you stop terrorists? I can't

-konfusion

Well, we changed an entire lifestyle that held blacks as slaves and as inferior, we turned the KKK to a punchline in a joke, same with the skinheads, we changed our views on womens rights. All by public opinion. Why is it so far fetched to think that united in a cause, we could not stomp the shit out of terrorism? They feed off of support from others, why is it so impossible to take that support away? Is it because there are more Muslims that endorse their behavior than you care to admit.

Sanjaya wrote:

lowing wrote:

konfusion wrote:

xD
Well, that's just it. They were terrorists. Can you stop terrorists? I can't

-konfusion

Well, we changed an entire lifestyle that held blacks as slaves and as inferior, we turned the KKK to a punchline in a joke, same with the skinheads, we changed our views on womens rights. All by public opinion. Why is it so far fetched to think that united in a cause, we could not stomp the shit out of terrorism? They feed off of support from others, why is it so impossible to take that support away? Is it because there are more Muslims that endorse their behavior than you care to admit.

Or maybe because you're comparing domestic issues to international ones.

sergeriver wrote:

Sanjaya wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well, we changed an entire lifestyle that held blacks as slaves and as inferior, we turned the KKK to a punchline in a joke, same with the skinheads, we changed our views on womens rights. All by public opinion. Why is it so far fetched to think that united in a cause, we could not stomp the shit out of terrorism? They feed off of support from others, why is it so impossible to take that support away? Is it because there are more Muslims that endorse their behavior than you care to admit.

Or maybe because you're comparing domestic issues to international ones.

I was about to write that.

konfusion wrote:

lowing wrote:

konfusion wrote:

xD
Well, that's just it. They were terrorists. Can you stop terrorists? I can't

-konfusion

Well, we changed an entire lifestyle that held blacks as slaves and as inferior, we turned the KKK to a punchline in a joke, same with the skinheads, we changed our views on womens rights. All by public opinion. Why is it so far fetched to think that united in a cause, we could not stomp the shit out of terrorism? They feed off of support from others, why is it so impossible to take that support away? Is it because there are more Muslims that endorse their behavior than you care to admit.

Well, I'll have to agree that their martyring isn't helping. But still, I think that the fact that lots of these countries are at war isn't helping. Neither is the uneducated population. Neither is the poverty.

-konfusion

Sanjaya wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070420/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_child_executioner

I do not want words from a couple people, I want the same outrage you show when you feel wronged by us.

Could you link me to your outrage about Haditha or Abu Ghraib perchance?

lowing wrote:

konfusion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well, we changed an entire lifestyle that held blacks as slaves and as inferior, we turned the KKK to a punchline in a joke, same with the skinheads, we changed our views on womens rights. All by public opinion. Why is it so far fetched to think that united in a cause, we could not stomp the shit out of terrorism? They feed off of support from others, why is it so impossible to take that support away? Is it because there are more Muslims that endorse their behavior than you care to admit.

Well, I'll have to agree that their martyring isn't helping. But still, I think that the fact that lots of these countries are at war isn't helping. Neither is the uneducated population. Neither is the poverty.

-konfusion

Do you really have to be wealthy to know the difference between right and wrong. or educated? At what financial position, am I allowed to be in to support the killing of women and children, to use children as an IED?

konfusion wrote:

lowing wrote:

konfusion wrote:

Well, I'll have to agree that their martyring isn't helping. But still, I think that the fact that lots of these countries are at war isn't helping. Neither is the uneducated population. Neither is the poverty.

-konfusion

Do you really have to be wealthy to know the difference between right and wrong. or educated? At what financial position, am I allowed to be in to support the killing of women and children, to use children as an IED?

You need to grow up in a non-militant society to learn the correct morals. You won't have that in a war zone, unless you have money, for which you need a good education. That is my point. Ok?

-konfusion

Last edited by lowing (2007-04-22 05:31:14)