Exactly.agent146 wrote:
EDIT:How the hell can two men "produce" a child? because ZERO is the answer.iamangry wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, two consenting men can have as many children as they are able produce and support together.
Yes I really believe they should have the right to have children. But I don't think they should give the ideas of that being homosexual is good to the children. I still think it's better to be straight. But if you are homosexual you are homosexual.
It's sad that these people get discriminated as I think if they want to live their lifes like that let them as long as it doesn't bothers me.
It's sad that these people get discriminated as I think if they want to live their lifes like that let them as long as it doesn't bothers me.
Last edited by kmt (2007-04-21 00:08:02)
Nobody is forcing anybody to be gay. Except in prison.
Last edited by Pubic (2007-04-21 00:11:34)
Lol, this thread was brought up from the dead.
Forcing someone to be gay??Pubic wrote:
Nobody is forcing anybody to be gay. Except in prison.
At what age did any of you homophobic DECIDE you were going to be heterosexual? I mean, if a homosexual, at some point made the decision to be gay, YOU must have had to make the same decision at some point in your life and DECIDED to be straight. So, what age was that?
No one chooses their sexual orientation, like it or not, people are born they way they are. It is not a "decision". Therefore, no one should be punished or held back for something that does not affect you whatsoever.
Hell, even if it was a choice, their personal decisions does not affect you anyway. So leave them alone.
Once again, however, I must add this disclaimer: As much as I oppose intrusion into someones personal life when it does not affect anyone else, I am equally opposed to "SPECIAL RIGHTS" the gay community seeks.
So you are afraid a gay couple will raise gay children ?kmt wrote:
Yes I really believe they should have the right to have children. But I don't think they should give the ideas of that being homosexual is good to the children. I still think it's better to be straight. But if you are homosexual you are homosexual.
It's sad that these people get discriminated as I think if they want to live their lifes like that let them as long as it doesn't bothers me.
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
The points over there. You missed it completely.lowing wrote:
Forcing someone to be gay??Pubic wrote:
Nobody is forcing anybody to be gay. Except in prison.
At what age did any of you homophobic DECIDE you were going to be heterosexual? I mean, if a homosexual, at some point made the decision to be gay, YOU must have had to make the same decision at some point in your life and DECIDED to be straight. So, what age was that?
No one chooses their sexual orientation, like it or not, people are born they way they are. It is not a "decision". Therefore, no one should be punished or held back for something that does not affect you whatsoever.
Hell, even if it was a choice, their personal decisions does not affect you anyway. So leave them alone.
Once again, however, I must add this disclaimer: As much as I oppose intrusion into someones personal life when it does not affect anyone else, I am equally opposed to "SPECIAL RIGHTS" the gay community seeks.
Homosexuals don't bother me at all, but we must NOT let homosexual couple get children. A Child must be brought up by his mother and father and that's, from far, not only church which say it. This is how humans "work", going against it shall fail and shall bring us only bad things.
This is how humans work ? .... and the church says so ?Enzzenmachine wrote:
Homosexuals don't bother me at all, but we must NOT let homosexual couple get children. A Child must be brought up by his mother and father and that's, from far, not only church which say it. This is how humans "work", going against it shall fail and shall bring us only bad things.
Humans are probably the only creature on earth that practice different gender relationships, with many of the animals gay behavior is common in addition!
Okay, but animals don`t go to heaven anyway so why do i care you might say !
A child must not have both a mother and a father, in many cases a child is raised by a single mom or a single dad, isn`t it then better to be raised by two moms or two dads ?
What difference does it make and what bad things does it bring us ?
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No, absolutely not. Abolish Homosexualism
Only if the kid is genetically predisposed to becoming a homosexual too........teddy..jimmy wrote:
Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?
j/k
QFT.Gawwad wrote:
I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm all in for gay marriage but there is just one thing I don't think is good. Having two fathers and no mother. I can't see how it would not change how the child gows up. So no, I do not support gay couples, be it women or men, having kids.
It's my honest opinion and how I feel about it. As I said before, I do not have a problem with homosexuality.
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
Funny from a guy that promotes buttsechs with his sigrambo43 wrote:
No, absolutely not. Abolish Homosexualism
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
personally no as kids require a mix of a farther and mother figure in their lives, this way they get a balanced upbringing, unless on of the couple was extreamly stereotypical of the opposite sex then i cant see how it would happen.
btw personal i don care about people being gay/homosexual (what political correctness has decided), i just think the kids wouldn't have a good childhood.
btw personal i don care about people being gay/homosexual (what political correctness has decided), i just think the kids wouldn't have a good childhood.
Have you seen the divorce rates amongst heterosexuals?? Hardly a pillar for ideal child raising.[PTG]shogun wrote:
personally no as kids require a mix of a farther and mother figure in their lives, this way they get a balanced upbringing, unless on of the couple was extreamly stereotypical of the opposite sex then i cant see how it would happen.
btw personal i don care about people being gay/homosexual (what political correctness has decided), i just think the kids wouldn't have a good childhood.
One reason gay parents might be better than some heterosexual parents is that gay parents have children only when they want them. Heterosexual couples can have children by accident or because they were too stupid or high to use birth control.lowing wrote:
Have you seen the divorce rates amongst heterosexuals?? Hardly a pillar for ideal child raising.[PTG]shogun wrote:
personally no as kids require a mix of a farther and mother figure in their lives, this way they get a balanced upbringing, unless on of the couple was extreamly stereotypical of the opposite sex then i cant see how it would happen.
btw personal i don care about people being gay/homosexual (what political correctness has decided), i just think the kids wouldn't have a good childhood.
The most important thing in child rearing: that the parents really want the child.
I will address the OP first. No. I'll explain.
Second, most people posting here are being offensive to others. Flaming some ones opinion is unacceptable. Anyone who does this should no longer be allowed to post in this section. Remaining level headed and open to another person's opinions will allow a topic to be discussed intelligently.
Gay people should not be able to influence the child's name change, sexual preference, or style of life. It is corrupt to allow a gay person to have a child as their own. It should only be the mother's and the father's child. I think that growing up with gay parents will adversely affect a child's sexual mentality.
My background to support my decision: I was raised by my mother who was separated from my dad my whole life. My mother is a hard line Christian hypocrite. My father is a hard line drug addict. Neither one is gay or supports gays or anything gay. I am male. My mother tried to teach me Christian morals. I took most of them and some other morals that aren't Christian related and made them my own. I also chose on my own to not be gay, not because of an attraction to the opposite sex.
Certain gay people have out-voiced the people who are not gay. They have allowed the idea of gay marriage to be acceptable legally in some parts of the world. The problem is that not enough straight people have responded to fight the gay rights. Gays have been frowned upon for all time up until recently when media has become a problem to our social acceptance of these and other issues. How long has it been, less than 50 years that gays are starting to be acceptable legally? There is also a miniscule trend in Hollywood where it's ok to be gay.
I believe being gay is a person's conscious choice regardless of how many times you say it's not a choice. People started being gay by imagining it. They should have then realized that it just doesn't work logically.
If you take someone with no education or social interaction they will have sex with the opposite sex. But that same guy might have sex with his sister, his female cousin, or a young girl, but not likely his mother.
Maybe one day men will be born with wombs, vaginas, and milking breasts. That day is 70 sextillion years off by my prediction.
Second, most people posting here are being offensive to others. Flaming some ones opinion is unacceptable. Anyone who does this should no longer be allowed to post in this section. Remaining level headed and open to another person's opinions will allow a topic to be discussed intelligently.
Gay people should not be able to influence the child's name change, sexual preference, or style of life. It is corrupt to allow a gay person to have a child as their own. It should only be the mother's and the father's child. I think that growing up with gay parents will adversely affect a child's sexual mentality.
My background to support my decision: I was raised by my mother who was separated from my dad my whole life. My mother is a hard line Christian hypocrite. My father is a hard line drug addict. Neither one is gay or supports gays or anything gay. I am male. My mother tried to teach me Christian morals. I took most of them and some other morals that aren't Christian related and made them my own. I also chose on my own to not be gay, not because of an attraction to the opposite sex.
- I am not politically correct.
- I am not atheist but I have yet to see any religion that is believable.
- Having gay parents will give kids in school one more reason whether or not to bully or like them.
- I think having gay sex and kissing the same gender passionately is perverse.
- I do not like it that gay people can actually be in public bathrooms/showers with other straight people.
- As someone else posted I would be one to exclude the gay person from the herd.
- I do like looking at 2 nude straight women, but not 1 or 2 nude gay women. Nor any gay man.
- 2 gay people can not literally birth a child together.
Certain gay people have out-voiced the people who are not gay. They have allowed the idea of gay marriage to be acceptable legally in some parts of the world. The problem is that not enough straight people have responded to fight the gay rights. Gays have been frowned upon for all time up until recently when media has become a problem to our social acceptance of these and other issues. How long has it been, less than 50 years that gays are starting to be acceptable legally? There is also a miniscule trend in Hollywood where it's ok to be gay.
I believe being gay is a person's conscious choice regardless of how many times you say it's not a choice. People started being gay by imagining it. They should have then realized that it just doesn't work logically.
If you take someone with no education or social interaction they will have sex with the opposite sex. But that same guy might have sex with his sister, his female cousin, or a young girl, but not likely his mother.
Maybe one day men will be born with wombs, vaginas, and milking breasts. That day is 70 sextillion years off by my prediction.
You had to choose to not be gay? I think I speak for most people when I say we didn't have that problem.jgrahl wrote:
I also chose on my own to not be gay, not because of an attraction to the opposite sex.
This is another issue entirely and I could rant for pages about it: most parents are actually very bad at parenting. Having a child is a much bigger deal than most people make it out to be, and a child has to be raised in very specific (and stable) circumstances. The fact that most straight people cannot provide these optimal circumstances does not change the fact that a child needs both a mother and a father. Therefore, homosexuals should not be allowed to have kids. Neither should parents who plan to get divorced, and neither should anyone else not capable op properly raising kids.lowing wrote:
Have you seen the divorce rates amongst heterosexuals?? Hardly a pillar for ideal child raising.[PTG]shogun wrote:
personally no as kids require a mix of a farther and mother figure in their lives, this way they get a balanced upbringing, unless on of the couple was extreamly stereotypical of the opposite sex then i cant see how it would happen.
btw personal i don care about people being gay/homosexual (what political correctness has decided), i just think the kids wouldn't have a good childhood.
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
yeah so better let the orphans rot at orphanages than giving them any replacement parents at all. good plan. some kids dont have parents anymore (due to whatever the reason is) and I guess many of them would be happy to have a family at all.Enzzenmachine wrote:
Homosexuals don't bother me at all, but we must NOT let homosexual couple get children. A Child must be brought up by his mother and father and that's, from far, not only church which say it. This is how humans "work", going against it shall fail and shall bring us only bad things.
Homosexuals have kids all the time, it is called molestation.
very shaky ground you tread by trying to decide who can and can not have kids, as well as providing a yard stick for "properly raising kids". Although I do not feel a homosexual couple could do any worse than a fucked up straight couple. I understand your point about the lackadaisical attitude toward child rearing.LaidBackNinja wrote:
This is another issue entirely and I could rant for pages about it: most parents are actually very bad at parenting. Having a child is a much bigger deal than most people make it out to be, and a child has to be raised in very specific (and stable) circumstances. The fact that most straight people cannot provide these optimal circumstances does not change the fact that a child needs both a mother and a father. Therefore, homosexuals should not be allowed to have kids. Neither should parents who plan to get divorced, and neither should anyone else not capable op properly raising kids.lowing wrote:
Have you seen the divorce rates amongst heterosexuals?? Hardly a pillar for ideal child raising.[PTG]shogun wrote:
personally no as kids require a mix of a farther and mother figure in their lives, this way they get a balanced upbringing, unless on of the couple was extreamly stereotypical of the opposite sex then i cant see how it would happen.
btw personal i don care about people being gay/homosexual (what political correctness has decided), i just think the kids wouldn't have a good childhood.
All the research there is on the subject says children raised by gay couples are as well adjusted as other kids. Are you saying that research is all wrong? Do you have a basis for saying that a child needs a mother and a father?LaidBackNinja wrote:
The fact that most straight people cannot provide these optimal circumstances does not change the fact that a child needs both a mother and a father. Therefore, homosexuals should not be allowed to have kids.
No they Shouldn't, Reason being they would probably grow up gay when the natural choice for them would had been screwing every girl they see or boy, depends on the child
When exactly did YOU CHOOSE to be straight? I mean, apparently it is a conscience choice we all have to make at puberty or something. So when did you choose to be heterosexual?davidonbf2 wrote:
No they Shouldn't, Reason being they would probably grow up gay when the natural choice for them would had been screwing every girl they see or boy, depends on the child