sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina
Let's judge people for their values, ethics and morality, not for their political and religious beliefs.  First we should learn some words.

Intolerance + Ignorance + Prejudice + Hatred = Idiot People (not all the ingredients are necessary to make an idiot.  If you find the 4 of them, then you are for sure in the presence of an idiot).

Let's define all these factors in this equation.

Intolerance: is the lack of ability or willingness to tolerate something.  In a social or political sense, intolerance is the absence of tolerance for differing viewpoints or the people who express those viewpoints. As a social construct, it is open to interpretation. For example, some define intolerance as an expressed, negative or hostile attitude toward another's views, even if no action is taken to squelch such opposing views or silence those who hold them. Tolerance, in contrast, can mean "disagreeing peaceably." Emotion is a factor which may differentiate intolerance from respectful disagreement. 
Does it sound familiar?

Ignorance: is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is also the state of being ignorant or uninformed.  Another definition states that ignorance is the choice to not act or behave in accordance with regard to certain information in order to suit ones own needs or beliefs.
Does it sound familiar?

Prejudice: Interpersonal hostility that is directed against individuals based on their membership in a minority group.
Does it sound familiar?

Hatred: is an emotion of intense revulsion, distaste, enmity, or antipathy for a person, thing, or phenomenon, generally attributed to a desire to avoid, restrict, remove, or destroy the hated object. Hatred is also among the most common emotions that humans experience. It can be based on fear of an object or past negative consequences of dealing with that object.
Does it sound familiar?

Now let's see who aren't idiots:

Any person who respects the beliefs of another individual even if those are the opposite to his beliefs.
It doesn't sound too familiar, does it?

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason.” Voltaire.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-04-09 17:46:48)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina
Good post... 
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6958|Global Command
Boomditty.
An answer to all the complaints today.
Jet Blast
Banned
+15|6663

sergeriver wrote:

Now let's see who aren't idiots:

Any person who respects the beliefs of another individual even if those are the opposite to his beliefs.
It doesn't sound too familiar, does it?

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason.” Voltaire.
What beliefs are we talking about here?

What if someone believes sex with children is ok.  Can I not think he is an asshole?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Jet Blast wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Now let's see who aren't idiots:

Any person who respects the beliefs of another individual even if those are the opposite to his beliefs.
It doesn't sound too familiar, does it?

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason.” Voltaire.
What beliefs are we talking about here?

What if someone believes sex with children is ok.  Can I not think he is an asshole?
That's perversion, not a belief.  Yes, you can think he is an asshole.
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6956|Middle of nowhere, California

Jet Blast wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Now let's see who aren't idiots:

Any person who respects the beliefs of another individual even if those are the opposite to his beliefs.
It doesn't sound too familiar, does it?

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason.” Voltaire.
What beliefs are we talking about here?

What if someone believes sex with children is ok.  Can I not think he is an asshole?
he means religious beliefs.... get it together man
Jet Blast
Banned
+15|6663

Smitty5613 wrote:

he means religious beliefs.... get it together man

sergeriver wrote:

Let's judge people for their values, ethics and morality, not for their beliefs.
I'm together man.
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6989
Good OP but it just leads into another endless circle. You say judge on values. ethics, and morals. But one persons values say kill my wife if  I catch her with another man while another would say take her to therapy/counselling. One person would beleive getting married to an eighteen year old is the youngest while another would say as long as she menstrates she can wed. That's why the three things you don't debate are religion, politics, and sports. But it's darn fun aint it?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

rawls2 wrote:

Good OP but it just leads into another endless circle. You say judge on values. ethics, and morals. But one persons values say kill my wife if  I catch her with another man while another would say take her to therapy/counselling. One person would beleive getting married to an eighteen year old is the youngest while another would say as long as she menstrates she can wed. That's why the three things you don't debate are religion, politics, and sports. But it's darn fun aint it?
Then call the killer an idiot, coz of his lack of values.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6971|Texas - Bigger than France
Too bad its all in the point of view, but good post.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7193|Dallas
Disagree.

Intolerance:Everyone is intolerant.  You yourself are intolerant to the four types of mind sets you mentioned.  You are also intolerant to "idiots", but who isn't? 

Ignorance:Everyone is ignorant.  Unless you know everything there is to know about any given subject, you are ignorant to that fact or subject.  To say ignorance is a flaw, is an ignorant statement in itself.

Prejudice:Show me someone without a prejudice of some sort and I will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a dollar. 

Hatred: Judging by your posts, you hate idiots, and I know for a fact you hate me, so that makes you a hateful hypocite.


Your logic is flawed. You ignorant, intolerant, idiot hating asshole. 
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Pug wrote:

Too bad its all in the point of view, but good post.
Good values, ethics and morality are not a point of view, you have them or not.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

Disagree.

Intolerance:Everyone is intolerant.  You yourself are intolerant to the four types of mind sets you mentioned.  You are also intolerant to "idiots", but who isn't? 

Ignorance:Everyone is ignorant.  Unless you know everything there is to know about any given subject, you are ignorant to that fact or subject.  To say ignorance is a flaw, is an ignorant statement in itself.

Prejudice:Show me someone without a prejudice of some sort and I will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a dollar. 

Hatred: Judging by your posts, you hate idiots, and I know for a fact you hate me, so that makes you a hateful hypocite.


Your logic is flawed. You ignorant, intolerant, idiot hating asshole. 
Thanks for proving me right.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7193|Dallas

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Your logic is flawed. You ignorant, intolerant, idiot hating asshole. 
Thanks for proving me right.
Someone has a broken humor detector.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Your logic is flawed. You ignorant, intolerant, idiot hating asshole. 
Thanks for proving me right.
Someone has a broken humor detector.
Your humor is too sophisticated for me.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7193|Dallas

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Thanks for proving me right.
Someone has a broken humor detector.
Your humor is too sophisticated for me.
My bullshit meter reads red.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:


Someone has a broken humor detector.
Your humor is too sophisticated for me.
My bullshit meter reads red.
Can I get one of those?
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7193|Dallas

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Your humor is too sophisticated for me.
My bullshit meter reads red.
Can I get one of those?
At Target, in the electronics isle, $14.95, 5 year limited warranty.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:


My bullshit meter reads red.
Can I get one of those?
At Target, in the electronics isle, $14.95, 5 year limited warranty.
Thanks, I'll get one.  I want to measure your level.
Barrakuda777
Member
+86|7165|Somewhere near a shrub or rock
You guys having some sort of pithy one liner contest?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Barrakuda777 wrote:

You guys having some sort of pithy one liner contest?
Do you wanna join?
Barrakuda777
Member
+86|7165|Somewhere near a shrub or rock
No, looks like you guys are a couple of old pro's, im just looking out for pointers

On Topic, all people exhibit an array of these traits by nature (people are xenophobic for example, its hardwired into our psyche), its only through education and integration that people can overcome their more base instincts.

My $0.02

Kooda

Last edited by Barrakuda777 (2007-04-10 07:38:41)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7050|London, England

Cougar wrote:

Disagree.

Intolerance:Everyone is intolerant.  You yourself are intolerant to the four types of mind sets you mentioned.  You are also intolerant to "idiots", but who isn't? 

Ignorance:Everyone is ignorant.  Unless you know everything there is to know about any given subject, you are ignorant to that fact or subject.  To say ignorance is a flaw, is an ignorant statement in itself.

Prejudice:Show me someone without a prejudice of some sort and I will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a dollar. 

Hatred: Judging by your posts, you hate idiots, and I know for a fact you hate me, so that makes you a hateful hypocite.


Your logic is flawed. You ignorant, intolerant, idiot hating asshole. 
Good point. However, it's better to hate on idiots than to hate on people who hate idiots. 
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7186|Argentina

Mekstizzle wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Disagree.

Intolerance:Everyone is intolerant.  You yourself are intolerant to the four types of mind sets you mentioned.  You are also intolerant to "idiots", but who isn't? 

Ignorance:Everyone is ignorant.  Unless you know everything there is to know about any given subject, you are ignorant to that fact or subject.  To say ignorance is a flaw, is an ignorant statement in itself.

Prejudice:Show me someone without a prejudice of some sort and I will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a dollar. 

Hatred: Judging by your posts, you hate idiots, and I know for a fact you hate me, so that makes you a hateful hypocite.


Your logic is flawed. You ignorant, intolerant, idiot hating asshole. 
Good point. However, it's better to hate on idiots than to hate on people who hate idiots. 
Nowhere in the OP says I hate idiots.  He is asuming I hate idiots, big difference.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7010|SE London

id·i·ot      /ˈɪdiət
–noun
1.    an utterly foolish or senseless person.
2.    Psychology. a person of the lowest order in a former classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

Where do the hatred, intolerance and prejudices come in? You could hate everything and not be an idiot, you could have all sorts of bizarre prejudices and not be an idiot and you could be intolerant of all sorts of things and not be an idiot.

What you're describing would fit better under the title of bigotry than idiocy - but that still doesn't do it justice. Maybe you could call them bigiots?

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