BF2S Forums What Iran Plans For America

1. Of course. The US could beat any other army in the world virtually effortlessly - with the possible exception of Russia and China - because they are such huge countries with respectable militaries and lots of manpower which could prove crucial in any sort of protracted war.
An Iranian/Saudi alliance (which is far from the most likely thing to happen) would put an end to any US invasion plans though. Any war waged against Iran and Saudi Arabia would be horrendously expensive, especially with the military kit the Saudis use, which is VERY up to date. Better keep those two apart.

2. Depends on the circumstances. Britain will certainly back the US on an Iranian invasion, but may not participate on the sort of scale that has been seen in recent years. I am sure Britain would play some sort of role, however minor, in the invasion.

3. Iran have a fairly outdated military. Their armour is poor, old Soviet junk that has shown how well it stands up to the might of the Challenger 2 and M1A2 in Iraq. Their air defence is far more advanced than Iraqs was, certainly bought with the US and Israeli air forces in mind - this will probably be the greatest military deterent Iran possesses, making air strikes more difficult. Their air power is better than Iraqs was, but Iranian pilots have never seemed capable of making the most of their jets.

Bell wrote:

3.They will almost certainly nuke someone, and there, is the problem, what do we do if we turn our televisions on one morning to hear new york/london or any other major city has been wiped out?

How would they manage that?

Even if they completed their nuclear program overnight a delivery system capable of targeting Europe or the US is something they certainly don't have. I think the greatest threat posed by Iranian nuclear proliferation is that they may supply terrorists with nuclear weapons. Imagine if Hamas detonated a nuke in Tel Aviv - that is quite possible, but not yet.

FlamingDeath wrote:

oooooooh kaaaaaaayy
Does anybody here speak Arabic to confirm that is an exact translation?
also, shouldn't this topics title really be, "what does america plan for iran" ???

The guys at http://memri.org/ do.

America would win, but only if they sent all their Resources and they could stabilize Iraq First.

If they were to Invade from Iraq, then theres not much thats standing in their way.. but you gotta remember Tehran is a pretty big city, and its in the middle of mountains..

Bertster7 wrote:

1. Of course. The US could beat any other army in the world virtually effortlessly - with the possible exception of Russia and China - because they are such huge countries with respectable militaries and lots of manpower which could prove crucial in any sort of protracted war.
An Iranian/Saudi alliance (which is far from the most likely thing to happen) would put an end to any US invasion plans though. Any war waged against Iran and Saudi Arabia would be horrendously expensive, especially with the military kit the Saudis use, which is VERY up to date. Better keep those two apart.

2. Depends on the circumstances. Britain will certainly back the US on an Iranian invasion, but may not participate on the sort of scale that has been seen in recent years. I am sure Britain would play some sort of role, however minor, in the invasion.

3. Iran have a fairly outdated military. Their armour is poor, old Soviet junk that has shown how well it stands up to the might of the Challenger 2 and M1A2 in Iraq. Their air defence is far more advanced than Iraqs was, certainly bought with the US and Israeli air forces in mind - this will probably be the greatest military deterent Iran possesses, making air strikes more difficult. Their air power is better than Iraqs was, but Iranian pilots have never seemed capable of making the most of their jets.

Bell wrote:

3.They will almost certainly nuke someone, and there, is the problem, what do we do if we turn our televisions on one morning to hear new york/london or any other major city has been wiped out?

How would they manage that?

Even if they completed their nuclear program overnight a delivery system capable of targeting Europe or the US is something they certainly don't have. I think the greatest threat posed by Iranian nuclear proliferation is that they may supply terrorists with nuclear weapons. Imagine if Hamas detonated a nuke in Tel Aviv - that is quite possible, but not yet.

How could you possibly know, where iran is in any stage of nuclear arms, there about the most isolated of all nations in the world, if anything that plays to there advantage in terms of what they can do without anyone seeing.  I suppose I need to be careful about what I say here, but in recent years, the terrorist activities inflicted on the USA and UK have been somewhat crude in there delivery, yet deadly.  Supposing we take there strike ability to be in its infancy (or atleast cant reach us), whos to say they couldnt merely put it on a ship and blow it to bits when it reaches said targets.  New York is right on the coast, ships go in there constantly, to plant one there is a possibilty I couldnt rule out, can you/anyone?

Martyn

fadedsteve wrote:

I think its interesting to see people say Iran's military would put up a good fight. . . .

Sounds like the old "Mother of all battles."   We saw how that went.

who ever thinks irans military will put up a fight doesnt know about modern warfare and are perfect audiences for propaganda.  this is coming from somebody who knows the strengths and weaknesses of our conventional forces.

1.Good or bad depending on the war
2.Good
3.Good or bad depending on the war

I'm more worried about what America has planed for Iran, more than what Iran has planed for America.

Reason being that a War could end up escalating into something nobody wants if China or Russia get involved.

Can't be using the Gunho tactics and flying in the face of the UN and not having backing again, before other big member states get pissed and get involved.

Bell wrote:

How could you possibly know, where iran is in any stage of nuclear arms, there about the most isolated of all nations in the world, if anything that plays to there advantage in terms of what they can do without anyone seeing.  I suppose I need to be careful about what I say here, but in recent years, the terrorist activities inflicted on the USA and UK have been somewhat crude in there delivery, yet deadly.  Supposing we take there strike ability to be in its infancy (or atleast cant reach us), whos to say they couldnt merely put it on a ship and blow it to bits when it reaches said targets.  New York is right on the coast, ships go in there constantly, to plant one there is a possibilty I couldnt rule out, can you/anyone?

Martyn

Because until recently UN inspectors have been given proper access to the refinement sites. The volume of Irans current operation is well known and from that it is easy for the inspectors to calculate how long it will take Iran to refine enough Uranium for a bomb. The estimates are between 5 and 10 years. Even if they massively increased the size of their operation, which they are doing they and is well documented it will still be years (at the very least 1 or 2, maybe more) before Iran can produce a functional bomb.

Haha, I would love to see Iran try anything against us...  We would own that whole entire country in a matter of days. Iraq had a bigger army than Iran does and it took us 2 weeks to wipe that out.  We would own those bitches.  They are just the annoying little fucks of the world that keep poking their older brother knowing eventually the older brother will knock them on their ass.

sigh...I don't understand this "occupation" deal that people have going.

Go in, knock out their military, take out Mr. Crazyfuck, and leave.

All depends. Are going to pussy foot around with shock and aw weapons ? Or are we going to flatten every square inch of the place with good ol low tech carpet bombing, napalm? If we are going in for " Regieme change " like we are in Iraq I believe America will fall like the Romans.