eisBär
Member
+22|6692|Germany
People need to distinguish between social liberal/conservative and fiscal liberal/conservative.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton (D) pushed through the last big wellfare reform law.

Today, if you are a smart conservative, you back the guy that will protect your stash (a fiscal conservative). Problem is, too few people have a stash worth protecting, so how do you get more votes? Why it's simple actually! You pick up the extra votes by also becoming a social conservative and then essentially saying:

"vote for me and:

-You son won't be allowed to become gay,

-Your daughter won't get knocked up, and if she does, we'll be fighting hard against her ability to have an abortion, but at the same time, fighting hard for your right to have a gun so you can kill her boyfriend.

-Your neighbors won't be allowed to disturb you by peacefully smoking weed in their own living room.

-You'll soon be legally permitted to beat the living shit out of somebody with any version of the bible except King James.

-People unlike you will not be allowed to voice their opinion.

-Illegal immigrants will stop taking "YOUR" jobs.

-I don't believe that the constitution contains a right to privacy.

-'hippies' will be kicked off wellfare

-and, any constitutional restriction to any of the above will be chipped away by appointing the MOST conservative justices possible if given the opportunity."

By getting people to buy into the above, and getting them to believe that this is actually the way the system should be, they get the votes needed to get into office and basically rob everybody blind, RICH AND POOR alike! At the same time, NONE of the above promises will be fulfilled.

Last edited by eisBär (2007-04-04 10:31:09)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7099|USA

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:


Im restraining from tearing this apart.

You'd cry if you saw this liberals 401k statement.

It really sucks I wan't raised with respect and manners. I never knew that. Thank you anonymous guy from the interwebs.
What are you doing with a fat retirement account??? Shouldn't you be funding social programs and someone else's retirement with that money??
LOL! Thats where my taxes go I assume. Either that or to Iraq on big pallets.  401K is for me.
Well I thought us Nazis payed taxes as well, so why is everyone wanting us to give even more, and fund even more. Obviously if you have a fat retirement account, you make too much and should surely share it with those "less fortunate" than you.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7110|USA

lowing wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

What are you doing with a fat retirement account??? Shouldn't you be funding social programs and someone else's retirement with that money??
LOL! Thats where my taxes go I assume. Either that or to Iraq on big pallets.  401K is for me.
Well I thought us Nazis payed taxes as well, so why is everyone wanting us to give even more, and fund even more. Obviously if you have a fat retirement account, you make too much and should surely share it with those "less fortunate" than you.
No I don't make a boatload. I find places to cut and suffer. Such as, take the whole check after taxes, or place the percentage I see fit into 401k after taxes. If Im in a tightspot, go into your financial dept and change the percentage to take out less if you need more cash. When your back on track, up the percentage to your 401k again. I bring my lunch to work, I dont buy it. I've had the same cell phone for 6 years. No need to upgrade. It works fine. My pc is 5 years old. Its running fine for me. I don't go buy every new game that comes out and I eat out MAYBE 1-2 times a month.

I am a fiscally conservative liberal. LMFAO!

And you thought all liberals were failures. I lol @ assumptions. 

As for those less fortunate, my thought is the taxes I pay would go to that. Your taxes will be gone no matter what, so why bitch about what its spent on? Your not going to get it back anyway.

Last edited by Mason4Assassin444 (2007-04-04 11:54:34)

CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6805|CA, USA
Excuse the language...

<from Team America: World Police>

Gary Johnston: Oh, no, we are'nt! We're dicks! [surprise from audience] We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild... are pussies. And Kim Jong Il... is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks - also - fuck - assholes... assholes who just wanna shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole... is a dick... with some balls. The problem with dicks is, sometimes they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate...

Spottswoode: Yes, Gary, yes!

Gary Johnston: ...and it takes a pussy to show 'em that. But sometimes, pussies get so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are only an inch and half away from assholes. [music of awe] I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know: If you don't let us fuck - this - asshole, we're going to have our dicks and our pussies [music hesitates] all covered in shit! [music of more awe and triumph. applause fades in]

So if we substitute Conservatives with Dicks, Liberals for Pussies, and Terrorists for Assholes, i think it sums it up quite nicely.  Not really but anyway.  LOL!

...and this is coming from a conservative!
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6802
I will give you Four

Reality

Experience

Accountability

and Reason
CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6805|CA, USA
A quote that was supposedly attributed to Winston Churchill (but actually he never said) goes something like this:

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6738|Éire

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."
I do find myself getting slightly more conservative as I get older but I'd like to think I wouldn't roll over like a bitch and accept everything the Government throws at me no matter what age I am. I believe in continually scrutinizing and questioning the system in order to keep it functioning in an efficient and fully transparent way, what's so bad about that?
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6802

Braddock wrote:

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."
I do find myself getting slightly more conservative as I get older but I'd like to think I wouldn't roll over like a bitch and accept everything the Government throws at me no matter what age I am. I believe in continually scrutinizing and questioning the system in order to keep it functioning in an efficient and fully transparent way, what's so bad about that?
In the USA its the Conservatives who want to limit Goverment. Ive no personal experince in " rolling over like a bitch" .
imortal
Member
+240|7113|Austin, TX

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

What are you doing with a fat retirement account??? Shouldn't you be funding social programs and someone else's retirement with that money??
LOL! Thats where my taxes go I assume. Either that or to Iraq on big pallets.  401K is for me.
I thought as a good liberal you would be trusting the goverment to provide for you in your retirement.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|7107|BC, Canada
wow the usual flame fest..... shows the great minds we have around here.....
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7110|USA

imortal wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

What are you doing with a fat retirement account??? Shouldn't you be funding social programs and someone else's retirement with that money??
LOL! Thats where my taxes go I assume. Either that or to Iraq on big pallets.  401K is for me.
I thought as a good liberal you would be trusting the goverment to provide for you in your retirement.
LOL! Guess you can rethink your liberal label.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|7107|BC, Canada

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Nicholas Langdon wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:


And i can't see where most liberals are coming from. See, I believe in keeping America free, and i believe that we should focus on the truely important things in the world, rather then made up things like Global Warming (leave it at that!). Now, I consider myself part libertarian too (Note: NOT LIBERAL! The term libertarianism usually refers to a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, as long as they allow others the same liberty. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian)
I believe in some government, but not a lot. When i turn on the news and see "Online gambling banned in the U.S." It really pisses me off.

Another thing i believe in is the Constitution. Do you believe in the Constitution? Then why would you allow the liberals to take away your second amendment? The right to bear arms! Our founding fathers were very detailed in making sure those rights could never be taken away, yet the liberals try and try to claim "It only applies to a militia (like the army/police)" Bullshit.

Also, i find, liberals tend to be sheep, and do what everyone else does without thinking (if they did think, they would realise that a citizen with a gun is more intimadating to a criminal then an unarmed citizen. Thats why gun control raises crime rates.)

The end
Actually, no, I do not believe in the constatution, but that could be because I'm canadian.
Oh right, your a cute little socialist. No wonder you dont know freedom and hard work cause the GOVERNMENT GIVES YOU EVERYTHING! Sure hope you dont have to see a doctor in the next 6 months cause of that growth, by the time they get you in itll be cancer, dont worry.
I did acutally try to think of something to respond to your posts with here, but since they seem so misguided, not to mention closeminded, I can only think of a quote that you should ponder:

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

I put this simply because I know you will just blow off any reasonable response as liberal pussy shit, instead of actually reading and thinking about it.
As for the comming on the attack with your aggressivness, you do nothing for your already poor argument.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7203|United States of America

CameronPoe wrote:

You get to keep poor people poor and laugh at them as you pass them by in your fancy car.
I believe it is the conservative organizations of the US that give more money away than anyone else, also, I don't see people like Gore, CLinton, and Kerry parading around boasting they have huge cars, houses, etc.

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