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2007-04-02 20:23:42
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid … 414760.ece


Well, my response to the Iranians is, stay the fuck out of Iraq and stop stirring up shit. We took their people from INSIDE Iraq, where they have no business being ( ya ya, we don't either, spare me ).

Anybody know what the current ROE for Iranians caught inside Iraq?
If it's not " shoot them on sight " it should be.
2007-04-02 20:39:03
PureFodder
Member
+225|6733

ATG wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece


Well, my response to the Iranians is, stay the fuck out of Iraq and stop stirring up shit. We took their people from INSIDE Iraq, where they have no business being ( ya ya, we don't either, spare me ).

Anybody know what the current ROE for Iranians caught inside Iraq?
If it's not " shoot them on sight " it should be.
Firstly I pretty much agree that the link between the incidents is most likely complete BS....

But it sounds like the Iranians mentioned in the article that were targeted by American forces were in Iraq on official business, they were openly meeting with Iraqi officials to discuss security matters in an Iranian Liason office in Iraq.

Shooting them on sight would be a real good way to ensure another few decades of utter hatred and distrust towards America.
2007-04-02 20:40:41
Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6792|Twyford, UK
I say iranians in iraq should be dealt with the same way as illegal immigrants; deport them home.

With a trebuchet.
2007-04-02 20:44:37
Fen321
Member
+54|6945|Singularity
"Better understanding of the seriousness of the US action in Arbil - and the angry Iranian response to it - should have led Downing Street and the Ministry of Defence to realise that Iran was likely to retaliate against American or British forces such as highly vulnerable Navy search parties in the Gulf."


"The raid in Arbil was a far more serious and aggressive act. It was not carried out by proxies but by US forces directly. The abortive Arbil raid provoked a dangerous escalation in the confrontation between the US and Iran which ultimately led to the capture of the 15 British sailors and Marines - apparently considered a more vulnerable coalition target than their American comrades."


Judging by the fact that you have to believe this author when he says there is some how a connection between these two unrelated events -- leads me to believe that you should not stress this at all.

Taking people from within a countries consulate irrespective of their activities is a violation of Iraq's sovereign right to initiate talks with whom they please -- irrespective of Bush's stance towards Iran. So what's that about freedom for the Iraqi's? Notice around this time Iran also announced their plan to set up a National Bank inside Iraq.....good timing  eh? COULD THIS BE part of a greater Iranian conspiracy to humiliate the US via establishing friendly ties with IRAQ!

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
2007-04-02 20:48:42
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

Fen321 wrote:

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
Good points...  We need to find the Saudi asswipes that have been smuggling Sunni extremists into Iraq.

We also need to find the Iranians and Syrians who have been adding fuel to the fire as well.

Whatever the case, Iran is on thin ice.  If they keep up their antics, Iran is going to glow in the dark soon.
2007-04-02 20:55:39
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7211

Turquoise wrote:

Fen321 wrote:

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
Good points...  We need to find the Saudi asswipes that have been smuggling Sunni extremists into Iraq.

We also need to find the Iranians and Syrians who have been adding fuel to the fire as well.

Whatever the case, Iran is on thin ice.  If they keep up their antics, Iran is going to glow in the dark soon.
No they won't.  I doubt it will come to a shooting war.  Iran has the perfect timing to do exactly as they please.  With U.S. and U.K. public opinion against the war both governments will more then likely stay well clear of another fight and Iran knows this so it is pushing the limits to see just how far they can go.  I would guess that the situation will stablize soon, a matter of a few weeks, with Iran a much more powerful country.  Add on top that the U.S. will probably not get a puppet government in Iraq the next in line will be Iran and with a unifed Iraq/Iran province the area could quickly become sweptup in a ban against the West.
2007-04-02 20:58:23
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

Ridir wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Fen321 wrote:

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
Good points...  We need to find the Saudi asswipes that have been smuggling Sunni extremists into Iraq.

We also need to find the Iranians and Syrians who have been adding fuel to the fire as well.

Whatever the case, Iran is on thin ice.  If they keep up their antics, Iran is going to glow in the dark soon.
No they won't.  I doubt it will come to a shooting war.  Iran has the perfect timing to do exactly as they please.  With U.S. and U.K. public opinion against the war both governments will more then likely stay well clear of another fight and Iran knows this so it is pushing the limits to see just how far they can go.  I would guess that the situation will stablize soon, a matter of a few weeks, with Iran a much more powerful country.  Add on top that the U.S. will probably not get a puppet government in Iraq the next in line will be Iran and with a unifed Iraq/Iran province the area could quickly become sweptup in a ban against the West.
Well, think about this..  if we do withdraw from Iraq soon, Iran will attempt to take it over, but in the process, it will bleed them of funds and manpower like it is with us right now.  Essentially, Iraq could become Iran's burden if we leave, and that would likely stifle their nuclear research.
2007-04-02 22:08:29
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

Fen321 wrote:

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
You obviously have found your own version of the truth.
I aint trying to convince anybody that Iran is stirring up shit in Iraq, it's more like pointing out the obvious.
2007-04-02 22:17:07
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Fen321 wrote:

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
You obviously have found your own version of the truth.
I aint trying to convince anybody that Iran is stirring up shit in Iraq, it's more like pointing out the obvious.
The deadliest terrorist attack in Iraq so far was committed by Sunnis: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html
2007-04-02 22:31:56
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

Turquoise wrote:

ATG wrote:

Fen321 wrote:

The ROE for Iranian's should not be changed -- how does the fact that Sunni extremist account for more deaths to US forces and civilians comfort your claim that Iran needs to stop "stirring up shit" in Iraq?
You obviously have found your own version of the truth.
I aint trying to convince anybody that Iran is stirring up shit in Iraq, it's more like pointing out the obvious.
The deadliest terrorist attack in Iraq so far was committed by Sunnis: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html
He was off topic, and you are off his topic even.

He seems to be suggesting that Iran is not stirring up shit in Iraq, which is stupid.
2007-04-02 22:40:03
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7169|Eastern PA

ATG wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

ATG wrote:


You obviously have found your own version of the truth.
I aint trying to convince anybody that Iran is stirring up shit in Iraq, it's more like pointing out the obvious.
The deadliest terrorist attack in Iraq so far was committed by Sunnis: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html
He was off topic, and you are off his topic even.

He seems to be suggesting that Iran is not stirring up shit in Iraq, which is stupid.
Stirring up shit for whom exactly? If the Iranians are there at the behest of the Iraqi gov't then we're in a bind aren't we? What with how Iraq is supposedly a sovereign and free country and what not...
2007-04-02 22:40:14
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

ATG wrote:


You obviously have found your own version of the truth.
I aint trying to convince anybody that Iran is stirring up shit in Iraq, it's more like pointing out the obvious.
The deadliest terrorist attack in Iraq so far was committed by Sunnis: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html
He was off topic, and you are off his topic even.

He seems to be suggesting that Iran is not stirring up shit in Iraq, which is stupid.
I'm suggesting that the Sunni extremists are even worse than the Shiite ones.  The Sunnis are being aided by the Saudis (among other groups).
2007-04-02 22:42:59
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

Masques wrote:

ATG wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


The deadliest terrorist attack in Iraq so far was committed by Sunnis: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html
He was off topic, and you are off his topic even.

He seems to be suggesting that Iran is not stirring up shit in Iraq, which is stupid.
Stirring up shit for whom exactly? If the Iranians are there at the behest of the Iraqi gov't then we're in a bind aren't we? What with how Iraq is supposedly a sovereign and free country and what not...
When did that happen?

They are our protectorate, as much a state as Puerto Rico.

As long as our troops are occupying Iraq I am okay with shoot to kill orders against Iranians, and I don't give a shit which Shiite asshole in Iraq invited them.

Now, when the goose is finally cooked and we surrender Iraq and pull out, it's a fair place for anyone to be.


gg Bush.
2007-04-03 01:47:12
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7215
https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/faye.jpg

How Iran treats Prisoners


https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/POWABUSE/Tortured.01.jpg

How USA treats Prisoners
2007-04-03 01:58:13
JahManRed
wank
+646|7075|IRELAND

ATG wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece


Well, my response to the Iranians Americans is, stay the fuck out of Iraq and stop stirring up shit. We took their people from INSIDE Iraq, where they have no business being ( ya ya, we don't either, spare me ).

Anybody know what the current ROE for Iranians caught inside Iraq?
If it's not " shoot them on sight " it should be.
Couldn't resist.soz

Ok, you advocate the shooting of Iranians on site? Though you would scream bloody murder if a CIA man was executed while interfering in other countries business, which lets face it, they have been doing for decades. Yous made sure that any CIA man who does commit crimes in foreign countries is immune from international law too. The CIA has conducted enough clandestine operations across the globe to remove the US from its high horse on this matter.

Any Iranians caught in Iraqi should be treated exactly as you would wish your CIA operatives treated if arrested in another nation.
2007-04-03 02:24:20
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7003
ATG let me get this straight, Iranian-British issue aside, you believe it is above board to kidnap two officials from another country who are visiting the 'sovereign' nation of Iraq on an official organised and expected visit? A simple yes or no will do.
2007-04-03 02:25:22
CameronPoe
Member
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BN wrote:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/faye.jpg

How Iran treats Prisoners


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … red.01.jpg

How USA treats Prisoners
My how the tables turned. How could America have stooped so low and turned their back on everything they ever stood for so readily? Such a contrast between the two images (the legitimacy of what Iran has done aside).

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2007-04-03 02:58:14
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
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So ATG, basically all that stirs up shit in Iraq should be shot on sight right ?

I couldn`t agree more !
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
2007-04-03 03:56:10
CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|7137|Fort Lewis WA

BN wrote:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/faye.jpg

How Iran treats Prisoners


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … red.01.jpg

How USA treats Prisoners
Don't forget to add some beheadings to that. I have yet to see the US or UK behead people and toss it on the news, and internet.
2007-04-03 04:01:10
apollo_fi
The Flying Kalakukko.
+94|6978|The lunar module

CannonFodder11b wrote:

BN wrote:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/faye.jpg

How Iran treats Prisoners


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … red.01.jpg

How USA treats Prisoners
Don't forget to add some beheadings to that. I have yet to see the US or UK behead people and toss it on the news, and internet.
Are you implying that Iran has done it?
2007-04-03 04:10:34
KylieTastic
Games, Girls, Guinness
+85|6899|Cambridge, UK

ATG wrote:

....Anybody know what the current ROE for Iranians caught inside Iraq?
If it's not " shoot them on sight " it should be.
ffs! So you'd agree that the Iranians should just shoot the Brits now, and in future shoot on sight and US, Brits, etc?

Thank fook that even though politicians are mostly dingbats they have a bit more common sense and basic humanity than people like you.
2007-04-03 04:17:07
EVieira
Member
+105|6925|Lutenblaag, Molvania

Varegg wrote:

So ATG, basically all that stirs up shit in Iraq should be shot on sight right ?

I couldn`t agree more !
Lets start by shooting Bush then...
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
2007-04-03 04:17:35
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6966|Πάϊ

ATG wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece


Well, my response to the Iranians is, stay the fuck out of Iraq and stop stirring up shit. We took their people from INSIDE Iraq, where they have no business being ( ya ya, we don't either, spare me ).

Anybody know what the current ROE for Iranians caught inside Iraq?
If it's not " shoot them on sight " it should be.
You're so certain that Iranians are stirring things up and some people from the other side of the spectrum seem  certain as well for their opinion. I'm not prepared to take sides on this one, given that the info we get from a war zone is bound to be biased. But either ways, you said it yourself. You belong there as much as they do. So how can I "spare you" when you propose shooting them on sight? It's only natural that whatever goes for Iranians caught inside Iraq should go for Americans as well. Shooting them on sight sounds a tad harsh for my taste.

Suck it up ATG, Iranians are not the enemy you're looking for. No matter how much of Ahmadinejad's extreme rhetoric is being bloated in the western media, Iran will never be anything more that another Iraq - aka an intentionally overestimated, virtually non-existent opponent.
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2007-04-03 04:43:57
JahManRed
wank
+646|7075|IRELAND

oug wrote:

Iranians are not the enemy you're looking for. No matter how much of Ahmadinejad's extreme rhetoric is being bloated in the western media, Iran will never be anything more that another Iraq - aka an intentionally overestimated, virtually non-existent opponent.
QFE
2007-04-03 05:58:16
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7257|Nårvei

EVieira wrote:

Varegg wrote:

So ATG, basically all that stirs up shit in Iraq should be shot on sight right ?

I couldn`t agree more !
Lets start by shooting Bush then...
My point exactly - thank u very much
Wait behind the line ..............................................................

 

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