Poll

Which Side brings most Victories for You?

Eu32%32% - 17
quite balanced38%38% - 20
Pac28%28% - 15
Total: 52
DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|7119|Germany, near Koblenz
I'm very astonished about the fact that I have much more victories with the EU than with the PAC.

It was like this right from the beginning and I allways had a perfect 50/50 split with team times (actually I'm going for pistol kills so I try to join PAC), but I have 57% (out of 667 per today) EU victories.

Since I played Titan mode (just started Conquest recently for some awards) mainly I did not face to many of those siege maps like Berlin but allways balanced mirror maps.

So one should expect that victories over so many rounds should be quite balanced too. Perhaps a small statistical variation, but not 30+% more with one team than with the other one.

In addition PAC is quite often said to have the better equipment (Pistol, Tank, ...) with the EU only having the better Walker. So if equipment affects the victory at all, it should be the other way round.

Do you recognize something similar too?
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6775|New York
I find it is based more on whether my team is a bunch of headless retards or not.
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Raphi
Banned
+354|6645|Basel, Switzerland
It depends, if PAC has got some good players they gonna win. I think Eu wins if they know how to defend a flag.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6880|N. Ireland

KillahStyle wrote:

It depends, if PAC has got some good players they gonna win. I think Eu wins if they know how to defend a flag.
Well duh..

I seem to play the PAC a lot more than the EU. I prefer the PAC pistol and PAC tank. And the Hachi > Goliath.
GeoEnvi
Member
+22|7073|Philadelphia, PA
I think I have more EU than PAC, and that makes perfect sense to me. 

The EU seems to have the upperhand on more of the bottlenecked maps (Gibraltar, Fall of Berlin, less apparent on Cerbere) than PAC.  Considering that the extra 30 tickets that PAC gets to start the round are easily wasted away, the EU generally has a decided advantage if they can defend reasonably well for the first 50 tickets of the game.
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7097|Sweden
Teams tend to get stacked perhaps 20% of the games i have played are even, and if you´re playing citymaps as stated EU will win more often cause of their strategical advantage.
ZCaliber
Member
+12|6898|Between Canada and Iowa

DerGraueWolf wrote:

In addition PAC is quite often said to have the better equipment (Pistol, Tank, ...) with the EU only having the better Walker
Talon is several times greater than the Doragon.

Talon is more agile, its remote missiles are also slightly more agile, it's a lot harder to get a missile to connect if another gunship fires at it, and its primary gun for the Gunner is arguably better due to the higher ROF. Its only downside is its size, which makes it more likely to be hit by Walker AA, RGMs and Gunner main fire in a dogfight.

The EU also get the better sniper rifle, the better stock AV rocket (The Mitchell is extremely effective at killing infantry. ), as well as the better buggy and APC (Both aren't as top heavy, and tip-overable as their PAC counterparts).

I also don't know about the Riesig being better than the Bogatyr... The Riesigs main guns seem to have a harder time killing infantry than the Bogatyrs plasma-esque cannons.

But as far as PAC superior weaponry: Nekomata in open maps (Tiger is better on Belgrade and the Church flag/Silo on Verdun... Or any closed area really.), Krilov, Shuko... maybe, and the Takao of course.

I'm unsure of the balance between the Transports, but I know the gun on the left side gun of the Yastreb has some weird accuracy issue.

Also, Hachimoto > Goliath... But like the Gunship, only in the hands of a competent driver/gunner combo.

Anywho, that aside, I also have more EUnuch wins than I have with the PAC-men.

Last edited by ZCaliber (2007-03-28 15:22:09)

FloppY_
­
+1,010|6673|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
It depends entirely on the map !

e.g.
- on Berlin its definately EU if teams are balanced

However i agree with leetkyle when it comes to the pac pistol, it is simply the best...

However when it comes to the tanks, i prefer the pacs ability to turnfast in order to catch a pilum round with the strong front armor rather than the weaker side,,, but the EU tank can face the worst thread while shooting at another, this makes up for the slower turning speed, and the eu feels more stable as a weapon platform
the eu tank will most likely beat the pac tank in urban settings due to the ability to aim whilst moving in another direction, there might not be enough room for the pac tank to turn in urban inviroments...

Last edited by ShawN_ (2007-03-28 23:37:55)

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Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6944|Brisbane, Aus

leetkyle wrote:

I seem to play the PAC a lot more than the EU. I prefer the PAC pistol and PAC tank. And the Hachi > Goliath.
same, i don't realy like EU at all. And i've been on PAC since the demo

I tend to Win on PAC more often cause i'm on that side much more.

Last edited by Fenix14 (2007-03-28 23:24:04)

jkohlc
2142th Whore
+214|6913|Singapore
depends on the map
DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|7119|Germany, near Koblenz
37 entries so far and a majority with one side dominating. But if I read the posts correctly this is mainly due to specific preferences (side & maps) rather than by accident, right?
Afrika_18
Member
+26|6929
Pac.  Because Me + Krylov = victory.  I will defeat anyone, anytime when I am armed with the Krylov.  Or a knife.  I can defeat anyone with just a knife too.
crashmctavish
Liquidat0r's Neuro Surgeon.....
+4|6828|uk

Afrika_18 wrote:

Pac.  Because Me + Krylov = victory.  I will defeat anyone, anytime when I am armed with the Krylov.  Or a knife.  I can defeat anyone with just a knife too.
*sigh* *slowly loses faith in humanity*
loonitic
...is a potty mouth
+286|6921|Valhalla
EU for some reason (usually when I have a Talon)

Last edited by loonitic (2007-04-04 08:46:09)

Raphi
Banned
+354|6645|Basel, Switzerland

leetkyle wrote:

KillahStyle wrote:

It depends, if PAC has got some good players they gonna win. I think Eu wins if they know how to defend a flag.
Well duh..

I seem to play the PAC a lot more than the EU. I prefer the PAC pistol and PAC tank. And the Hachi > Goliath.
The krylov also pwns
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7124

It has nothing to do with what side or hardware you've got.

It is all about the player.

Afrika_18 wrote:

Pac.  Because Me + Krylov = victory.  I will defeat anyone, anytime when I am armed with the Krylov.  Or a knife.  I can defeat anyone with just a knife too.
We're you planning on actually adding something to this discussion, rather than your e-ego? If not, I advice you to get out of this forum.
Buzerk1
Member
+44|7223

Bernadictus wrote:

It has nothing to do with what side or hardware you've got.

It is all about the player.

Afrika_18 wrote:

Pac.  Because Me + Krylov = victory.  I will defeat anyone, anytime when I am armed with the Krylov.  Or a knife.  I can defeat anyone with just a knife too.
We're you planning on actually adding something to this discussion, rather than your e-ego? If not, I advice you to get out of this forum.
LOL, and usually they don't have the stats to back what they say


It's pretty even for me, for the very simple reason that I like to play on server that switch side  every round.

Last edited by Buzerk1 (2007-04-04 11:31:52)

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