BF2S Forums Colbert and some more ownage

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well then..   I guess you're violating those laws right now by putting Libraries are hiding something in your sig.  Should Viacom sue you?

That is the point of it being in there. You can't just say "It's now copyrighted". They were joking at that point in the interview. But if Viacom had the appropriate copyright on it I would take it down and guess what?.. I wouldn't turn around and try and get money out of them for making me do so.

But don't you think it's rather stupid that someone can copyright a phrase?

If you're copyrighting a book, an invention, a drug, or a new product of some other kind, then I understand.  There are other things that I think shouldn't be able to be copyrighted.

Also, when companies like Disney can continually lobby to extend copyright law tenures, then it gets rather ridiculous.  How long do we have to wait before Mickey is public domain?  200 years?

Yes there has to be lines drawn. Otherwise the possibility of free expression/ideas would eventually be killed off. There are laws that prevent the frivolous stuff (or at least try). I think it is called fair usage. Like the news when the replay sports clips etc..

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

That is the point of it being in there. You can't just say "It's now copyrighted". They were joking at that point in the interview. But if Viacom had the appropriate copyright on it I would take it down and guess what?.. I wouldn't turn around and try and get money out of them for making me do so.

But don't you think it's rather stupid that someone can copyright a phrase?

If you're copyrighting a book, an invention, a drug, or a new product of some other kind, then I understand.  There are other things that I think shouldn't be able to be copyrighted.

Also, when companies like Disney can continually lobby to extend copyright law tenures, then it gets rather ridiculous.  How long do we have to wait before Mickey is public domain?  200 years?

Yes there has to be lines drawn. Otherwise the possibility of free expression/ideas would eventually be killed off. There are laws that prevent the frivolous stuff (or at least try). I think it is called fair usage. Like the news when the replay sports clips etc..

My argument is that the balance has been pushed too far in favor of this ominous "intellectual property" concept.  Copyrights on things like medicines are too long in duration, and the RIAA goes absolutely nuts over people downloading music.

I understand that a certain amount of protection is necessary, and again, if moveon was only posting clips without any parody element, then I can see why they were taken down.

Throughout this entire debate, I haven't defended the lawsuit because I think it was stupid as well.  Still, I had thought that parody was the focus of this controversy, so I was against what I perceived as hypocrisy on Viacom's part.

Kmarion wrote:

If it weren't for "Big Business" you would not even know his name. His comedy is his work. I can at least understand why he would try and protect it. It is not like Colbert is a politician.


Best part is when the guy said I feel at liberty to rip you off...lol

He's not trying to protect it, viacomm is. Colbert only kept repeating the "you're sueing the people that pay me" line.

Wouldn't let me watch the last minute. I normally would like this guy, but when I see his face it reminds me of someones sig and I feel the urge to punch something...................

Bubbalo wrote:

But the thing is, he didn't get schooled.  He couldn't give a good reason for his viewpoint, yet he was too dense to see logic.

He was almost as bad as lowing.

Then he was schooled in logic since Colbert demonstrated it more effectively.\\

jonsimon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If it weren't for "Big Business" you would not even know his name. His comedy is his work. I can at least understand why he would try and protect it. It is not like Colbert is a politician.


Best part is when the guy said I feel at liberty to rip you off...lol

He's not trying to protect it, viacomm is. Colbert only kept repeating the "you're sueing the people that pay me" line.

He is protecting his job security. I guess you didn't make it to the white board part if you only think he was repeating the same thing. He pointed out the absurdity of suing someone for trying to protect their work.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-28 08:10:14)