Bubbalo
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Smitty5613 wrote:

and by the way, did u graduate highschool?? and if so, what was your grade in Civics?
Yes, because how could someone with my literacy skills possibly have passed .

CameronPoe wrote:

Spanish Civil War - Fascists/Conservatives/Royalists v Socialists/Anarchists/Communists.
Correct, although by the end the Nationalists sided with the Socialists/Anarchists/Communists out of necessity (Fascists were too strong), which cost them overseas support.

Of course it's irrelevant since Communist theory says that there should be no government and theory is what Communism is.

Smitty5613 wrote:

u kno there was once this saying that i read that said:

"Having an argument online is like being in the special olympics; no matter who wins, your still retarted."
Well, maybe you are....................
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7140|Tampa Bay Florida

lowing wrote:

lowing wrote:

Liberals feel the govt. should provide all the necessities of life and that everyone should be equal and void of any personal responsibility for themselves and their choices. Achievement and hard work are not rewarded in a liberal world. Individuality must not be allowed. All of this so we do not take the risk of someone having something they earned, without sharing it with someone who didn't.

Liberals are not interested in earning anything for themselves, they are only interested in sharing what you have earned, with them.

Other than that I love them.
I love it this whole paragraph, and   this sentence " Achievement and hard work are not rewarded in a liberal world."  is the only thing challenged. Must mean you can't really challenge the rest or what??
Most people don't have hours to waste arguing with you.  I've seen you be out-debated dozens of times, yet you still seem to think you've been right in every single issue, even when you're conservative friends leave you hanging.  It's just a waste of time, so I picked one part of your paragraph that was completely wrong and especially insulting to millions of hard working Americans who benefit greatly from the government.
Smitty5613
Member
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Smitty5613 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:


idk, i've never heard of Anarchists pairing with Communists... and the reason y Communists and Fascists hate each other is because they are dictatorships... and dictators dont usually get along....

and by the way, did u graduate highschool?? and if so, what was your grade in Civics?
Spanish Civil War - Fascists/Conservatives/Royalists v Socialists/Anarchists/Communists.
well, Germany was Allied with Russia, it was only because of Hitlers greed Germany invaded Russia..... Fascism and Communism right there...
speaking of Germany vs Russia, ima go play some BF1942
lowing
Banned
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Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


And that particular policy is left-leaning.
Yeah, and it is also leveling the playing field, making all equal for everyone...........regardless of individual efforts. communism
Nope, Communism would say that if I work hard for 8 hours I should get paid more than someone who worked hard for 6 hours regardless of natural ability.  That's the problem with trying to introduce policies from one side of the spectrum in a society dominated by the other.
from dicionary.com

communism:
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.


often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.

I don't get your difinition as jiving with theirs bubbalo.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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Smitty5613 wrote:

well, Germany was Allied with Russia, it was only because of Hitlers greed Germany invaded Russia..... Fascism and Communism right there...
You twit, you confuse a non-aggression pact with an alliance and question whether I graduated High School?

Besides which, Hitlers hatred of Communists is well documented, he sided with Stalin out of political necessity.  And Stalinism isn't Communism!
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California
So, whats the price of eggs in China these days??
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7101|USA

Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

lowing wrote:

Liberals feel the govt. should provide all the necessities of life and that everyone should be equal and void of any personal responsibility for themselves and their choices. Achievement and hard work are not rewarded in a liberal world. Individuality must not be allowed. All of this so we do not take the risk of someone having something they earned, without sharing it with someone who didn't.

Liberals are not interested in earning anything for themselves, they are only interested in sharing what you have earned, with them.

Other than that I love them.
I love it this whole paragraph, and   this sentence " Achievement and hard work are not rewarded in a liberal world."  is the only thing challenged. Must mean you can't really challenge the rest or what??
Most people don't have hours to waste arguing with you.  I've seen you be out-debated dozens of times, yet you still seem to think you've been right in every single issue, even when you're conservative friends leave you hanging.  It's just a waste of time, so I picked one part of your paragraph that was completely wrong and especially insulting to millions of hard working Americans who benefit greatly from the government.
lol.........."HARD" IE successful working Americans don't need the govt. for social well being or hand outs. for life.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:


Yeah, and it is also leveling the playing field, making all equal for everyone...........regardless of individual efforts. communism
Nope, Communism would say that if I work hard for 8 hours I should get paid more than someone who worked hard for 6 hours regardless of natural ability.  That's the problem with trying to introduce policies from one side of the spectrum in a society dominated by the other.
from dicionary.com

communism:
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.


often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.

I don't get your difinition as jiving with theirs bubbalo.
That's because mine is based on what Communism actually is, their's is based on popular belief which is dominated by countries which call themselves Communist but aren't.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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Smitty5613 wrote:

So, whats the price of eggs in China these days??
I thought you were gonna go play BF?
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California

Bubbalo wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

well, Germany was Allied with Russia, it was only because of Hitlers greed Germany invaded Russia..... Fascism and Communism right there...
You twit, you confuse a non-aggression pact with an alliance and question whether I graduated High School?

Besides which, Hitlers hatred of Communists is well documented, he sided with Stalin out of political necessity.  And Stalinism isn't Communism!
Alliance, non-aggression pact... im sorry im not using politically correct words..... but are you saying Stalin wasn't communist? lol i give up, you win, you were right all along... i guess Kim Jong Il isn't a dictator either, and im sure Hitler wasnt a Nazi.... and Chiang Kai-shek was a dictator too huh?
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7140|Tampa Bay Florida
Smitty- Germany and Russia were never allies.  There's evidence Hitler had planned to backstab Russia from the start of their agreement not to attack eachother.

lowing- There are millions of people with more personal experience that would care to disagree with you.  Who the fuck are you?  Where's your fucking PhD?  Everytime you come in to these forums, you are either :

1. Complaining, bitching, and whining about how white people are racial victims of black people
2. Complaining, bitching whining about how every poor person in the world is too lazy to make life better for themselves and that our government welfare system is so fucking perfect it cures poverty
3. Complaining, bitching, and whining about how Democrats and liberals (and almost anyone else who disagrees with the Bushfuck administrations foreign policy) are bent on destroying America and letting terrorists and murderers roam free in the streets

I'm sorry lowing, there is only so much sane people can take from you.  Arguing with you is like trying to explain politics and history to a 5th grade elementary class.  It's just headaching....

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-03-26 17:55:58)

Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California

Bubbalo wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

So, whats the price of eggs in China these days??
I thought you were gonna go play BF?
i was, but.... idk im a procrastinator..... whats better, BF1942, BFV, or BF2?
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7140|Tampa Bay Florida

Smitty5613 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

well, Germany was Allied with Russia, it was only because of Hitlers greed Germany invaded Russia..... Fascism and Communism right there...
You twit, you confuse a non-aggression pact with an alliance and question whether I graduated High School?

Besides which, Hitlers hatred of Communists is well documented, he sided with Stalin out of political necessity.  And Stalinism isn't Communism!
Alliance, non-aggression pact... im sorry im not using politically correct words..... but are you saying Stalin wasn't communist? lol i give up, you win, you were right all along... i guess Kim Jong Il isn't a dictator either, and im sure Hitler wasnt a Nazi.... and Chiang Kai-shek was a dictator too huh?
Stalin had his own version of communism.  Currently, true communism has never been realistically represented ever in human history. 

All "communist" nations out there were dicatorships, for the most part.  Which in itself is not true communism.
Bubbalo
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Smitty5613 wrote:

and Chiang Kai-shek was a dictator too huh?
Yes, actually.  It was his son who started to Liberalise Taiwan, and until 1986 it was a one party state.  Martial law was only repealed in 1987.
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California

Spearhead wrote:

Smitty- Germany and Russia were never Allies.  There's evidence Hitler had planned to backstab Russia from the start of their agreement not to attack eachother.

lowing- There are millions of people with more personal experience that would care to disagree with you.  Who the fuck are you?  Where's your fucking PhD?  Everytime you come in to these forums, you are either :

1. Complaining, bitching, and whining about how white people are racial victims of black people
2. Complaining, bitching whining about how every poor person in the world is too lazy to make life better for themselves and that our government welfare system is so fucking perfect it cures poverty
3. Complaining, bitching, and whining about how Democrats and liberals (and almost anyone else who disagrees with the Bushfuck administrations foreign policy) are bent on destroying America and letting terrorists and murderers roam free in the streets

I'm sorry lowing, there is only so much sane people can take from you.  Arguing with you is like trying to explain politics and history to a 5th grade elementary class.  It's just headaching....
I am sorry, but you are associated with (the concept of 'ownership' is a symbol of the phallocentric, warmongering, intolerant past) a person of nonspecified gender who is not the best at political correctness.
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California
I'm All Jacked Up On Mountain Dew!!!!
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California
so did i just kill the topic, or is everyone else typing up something to argue about me being all jacked up on mountain dew?
Turquoise
O Canada
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ghettoperson wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Liberal is much more moderate politically in America than it is in the U.K.  I would guess that American liberalism would be considered the equivalent of British centrism.  In some ways, Democrats would be seen as somewhat conservative by British standards.

As far as 1st World countries go, America is probably one of the most conservative ones.
There's a great quote about that, from a visiting British diplomat in the early 20th century to the US. I can't find it, but it more or less goes:

"US politics are very similar to that of the UK, except for that they have two political parties. The first is the Republican Party, who are much like our Conservative Party. The second is the Democratic Party, who are much like our Conservative Party."

I found it quite funny anyway...
Basically...
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6976|Middle of nowhere, California

Turquoise wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Liberal is much more moderate politically in America than it is in the U.K.  I would guess that American liberalism would be considered the equivalent of British centrism.  In some ways, Democrats would be seen as somewhat conservative by British standards.

As far as 1st World countries go, America is probably one of the most conservative ones.
There's a great quote about that, from a visiting British diplomat in the early 20th century to the US. I can't find it, but it more or less goes:

"US politics are very similar to that of the UK, except for that they have two political parties. The first is the Republican Party, who are much like our Conservative Party. The second is the Democratic Party, who are much like our Conservative Party."

I found it quite funny anyway...
Basically...
DAMN! i didnt kill it
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7101|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


Nope, Communism would say that if I work hard for 8 hours I should get paid more than someone who worked hard for 6 hours regardless of natural ability.  That's the problem with trying to introduce policies from one side of the spectrum in a society dominated by the other.
from dicionary.com

communism:
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.


often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.

I don't get your difinition as jiving with theirs bubbalo.
That's because mine is based on what Communism actually is, their's is based on popular belief which is dominated by countries which call themselves Communist but aren't.
Can you please cite me a definition from your source .
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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The Communist Manifesto.

That's basically the framework for Communism.
unnamednewbie13
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Wikipedia is our friend...our friiieend!
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
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communism will never ever work if it does i will jump the first bridge, it would pretty much force everyone to think/do the same.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7011
Where the hell do all these people come from?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7101|USA

Spearhead wrote:

Smitty- Germany and Russia were never allies.  There's evidence Hitler had planned to backstab Russia from the start of their agreement not to attack eachother.

lowing- There are millions of people with more personal experience that would care to disagree with you.  Who the fuck are you?  Where's your fucking PhD?  Everytime you come in to these forums, you are either :

1. Complaining, bitching, and whining about how white people are racial victims of black people
2. Complaining, bitching whining about how every poor person in the world is too lazy to make life better for themselves and that our government welfare system is so fucking perfect it cures poverty
3. Complaining, bitching, and whining about how Democrats and liberals (and almost anyone else who disagrees with the Bushfuck administrations foreign policy) are bent on destroying America and letting terrorists and murderers roam free in the streets

I'm sorry lowing, there is only so much sane people can take from you.  Arguing with you is like trying to explain politics and history to a 5th grade elementary class.  It's just headaching....
1. never whined bitched or complained about this....... I observe a double standard on which I inquired.

2. Never whined bitched and complained about how  "how every poor person in the world is too lazy to make life better for themselves and that our government welfare system is so fucking perfect it cures poverty".

I have pointed out that every able-bodied person of sound mind has no excuse for being poor in AMERICA ( not the world). And I never said our welfare system is perfect. I defy you to show where I said otherwise on either point. Or even suggested it.

3.I have never whined bitched and complained about this either. It is an obsevation that the democrats/liberals hope for failure of this war. Destroying Bush and thus the war effort seems to be their goal.

I am loving how I am accused of the this, when I don't AGREE WITH YOU. The hypocrasy is pretty deep with these words of yours.

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