Ryan
Member
+1,230|7272|Alberta, Canada

Shaguart
Titties
+56|6798|Calgary, Canada
wow yeah that is kinda retarted, its part of their religion and u cant change that
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7061|949

There is a genuine reason for this though...If you have to show ID, how do you know a person is who they say they are if covered by a scarf
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7114|United States of America
Hmm, Muslim religion is usually less accepting towards breaking tradition but the validity of an election is at stake. Nobody wants more "vote early, vote often."
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7272|Alberta, Canada

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

There is a genuine reason for this though...If you have to show ID, how do you know a person is who they say they are if covered by a scarf
That's actually a good point. But it's still part of a religion, should it be broken just because of ID?
kilgoretrout
Member
+53|6899|Little Rock, AR

Ryan wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

There is a genuine reason for this though...If you have to show ID, how do you know a person is who they say they are if covered by a scarf
That's actually a good point. But it's still part of a religion, should it be broken just because of ID?
Do you think muslim women have the right to cover their faces when they get a driver's license or other form of government ID?  What about a passport picture?  Of course they have to show their faces so you can check identity.  However, I think it would be appropriate to have one or two muslim-woman friendly polling places that could have a separate room that men aren't allowed in and a female poll worker could check identity.  Muslim women are permitted to take off veils when there aren't men around, aren't they?
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7057|space command ur anus
the madness, having to show your identity.
How about if they try to reform to the cultural norms of the western world instead of holding on to a medieval mindset.

Last edited by herrr_smity (2007-03-23 16:37:11)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6979|CH/BR - in UK

edit: (one up)^what he said^
It may be a religion, but this is serious stuff. ID has to be confirmed, unless you want to jeopardize the elections.

-konfusion

Last edited by Konfusion0 (2007-03-23 16:36:23)

usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio
Don't like the laws?  Go back to your own armpit of a country then.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6979|CH/BR - in UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Don't like the laws?  Go back to your own armpit of a country then.
Who says they're not in their country? You can be a Muslim-Canadian... (it is in Canada, is it not?)

-konfusion

edit: sp

Last edited by Konfusion0 (2007-03-23 16:38:16)

usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Konfusion0 wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Don't like the laws?  Go back to your own armpit of a country then.
Who says they're not in their country? You can be a Muslim-Canadian... (it is in Canada, is it not?)

-konfusion

edit: sp
I know.  Then go to a country where it is acceptable to do that.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7272|Alberta, Canada

Or they could just be given a special thing to identify them by, I don't know what, but it would be possible.

Haha, like a barcode.
Drakef
Cheeseburger Logicist
+117|6791|Vancouver

usmarine2007 wrote:

Konfusion0 wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Don't like the laws?  Go back to your own armpit of a country then.
Who says they're not in their country? You can be a Muslim-Canadian... (it is in Canada, is it not?)

-konfusion

edit: sp
I know.  Then go to a country where it is acceptable to do that.
Is it not then a Canadian value? Are they not Canadians, and therefore part of the Canadian identity? I'm more than happy to have them here.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Drakef wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Konfusion0 wrote:


Who says they're not in their country? You can be a Muslim-Canadian... (it is in Canada, is it not?)

-konfusion

edit: sp
I know.  Then go to a country where it is acceptable to do that.
Is it not then a Canadian value? Are they not Canadians, and therefore part of the Canadian identity? I'm more than happy to have them here.
Follow the damn rules then.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina
I like the idea of... "If you don't want to show your face, then I guess you don't want to vote."

If you let these people push the system around, then who's going to stop other groups from acting just as ridiculous?  I suppose telling them "show your face or fuck off" is a bit too blunt, but it's the same general idea.  When in Rome, do as Romans.
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6885|The edge of sanity
Acctually it is very important. It keeps the ILLEGAL (notice ill-fucking-legal) immigrants from voting with the whole identification check thing for vvoting to make sure ur a citizen and dont fuck up the ballot.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6922|Connecticut

kilgoretrout wrote:

Ryan wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

There is a genuine reason for this though...If you have to show ID, how do you know a person is who they say they are if covered by a scarf
That's actually a good point. But it's still part of a religion, should it be broken just because of ID?
Do you think muslim women have the right to cover their faces when they get a driver's license or other form of government ID?  What about a passport picture?  Of course they have to show their faces so you can check identity.  However, I think it would be appropriate to have one or two muslim-woman friendly polling places that could have a separate room that men aren't allowed in and a female poll worker could check identity.  Muslim women are permitted to take off veils when there aren't men around, aren't they?
I disagree, we should not make exceptions and offer special privliges because of their religious preference. What are the rules in Canada? Im not familiar with their rules, is there a separation between church and state?
Malloy must go
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7145

usmarine2007 wrote:

Drakef wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


I know.  Then go to a country where it is acceptable to do that.
Is it not then a Canadian value? Are they not Canadians, and therefore part of the Canadian identity? I'm more than happy to have them here.
Follow the damn rules then.
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Tjasso
the "Commander"
+102|6952|the Netherlands
Dutch women required to show Tits while voting!! ... Sorry
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6958|Global Command

Ryan wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

There is a genuine reason for this though...If you have to show ID, how do you know a person is who they say they are if covered by a scarf
That's actually a good point. But it's still part of a religion, should it be broken just because of ID?
Where do you draw the line? Should a Muslim woman be allowed to where the veil at a drivers license photo?



Fucking retarded scenario, right?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina
No shit...  nutjobs...  There should be some kind of test to keep uncooperative people from entering the U.S.  The gist of it should be, "if your religion requires some stupid practice that doesn't comply with our rules, get the fuck out."
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6922|Connecticut
If they want to be accepted as  fellow countrymen(women) of Canada, then perhaps they abide to the same rules and regulations without an attempt to obtain special conditions. What would happen if an attractive female Canadien woman walked the streets in an Iranian city? Do you think they would accept her and her nations tradition? No. She would probably be raped and beaten, then jailed. That is what makes Canada a better nation, however, there are always rules wherever you go an it is a citizens obligation to follow them. Removing your headgear for several moments to preserve Canada's election process is not an event that can be deemed as life altering or mistreatment. They need to get the fuck over themselves and play by the rules. This is precisely why many citizens throughout the world hold judgement and resentment against muslims.
Malloy must go
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6958|Global Command

deeznutz1245 wrote:

If they want to be accepted as  fellow countrymen(women) of Canada, then perhaps they abide to the same rules and regulations without an attempt to obtain special conditions. What would happen if an attractive female Canadien woman walked the streets in an Iranian city? Do you think they would accept her and her nations tradition? No. She would probably be raped and beaten, then jailed. That is what makes Canada a better nation, however, there are always rules wherever you go an it is a citizens obligation to follow them. Removing your headgear for several moments to preserve Canada's election process is not an event that can be deemed as life altering or mistreatment. They need to get the fuck over themselves and play by the rules. This is precisely why many citizens throughout the world hold judgement and resentment against muslims.
Exactly. Just like the asshole cabbies in New York who don't want to pick up people smelling of booze or carrying bacon.

GTFO!
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

If they want to be accepted as  fellow countrymen(women) of Canada, then perhaps they abide to the same rules and regulations without an attempt to obtain special conditions. What would happen if an attractive female Canadien woman walked the streets in an Iranian city? Do you think they would accept her and her nations tradition? No. She would probably be raped and beaten, then jailed. That is what makes Canada a better nation, however, there are always rules wherever you go an it is a citizens obligation to follow them. Removing your headgear for several moments to preserve Canada's election process is not an event that can be deemed as life altering or mistreatment. They need to get the fuck over themselves and play by the rules. This is precisely why many citizens throughout the world hold judgement and resentment against muslims.
Exactly. Just like the asshole cabbies in New York who don't want to pick up people smelling of booze or carrying bacon.

GTFO!
LOL...  interesting analogy...  but yeah, I think all 3 of us are in agreement on this one.
theelviscerator
Member
+19|6717
The fact of the matter is, women in islamic countries rarely, if ever have the right to vote.

They are breaking the rules of their religion to even live in the west. What about that?


If you had any sense you would not let them wear it in public at all.


Safety hazard, and basically a dog collar equivelant.

Muslim men own their women.

Last edited by theelviscerator (2007-03-23 19:35:33)

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