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Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

I don't know.  I would think it would all remain in tact, and here's why.  A person's personality is comprised of memories, past experience, and ones own idea.  Now as for memories not being physical, I would say they are.  Memories and whatnot are basically just chemical reactions within the brain.  Assuming all things were duplicated exactly, those chemical components of memory should be there as well.

Would memories and personality traits not be attributed to electrical signals in the brain?

My understanding is that is how communication within the brain and to the rest of our body works, but long term storage is a chemical action.

Well heres the problem with that, in if it was really you, then if you didnt destroy the first body you would be controlling two bodies at once.. doesnt work... impossible

Last edited by Dezerteagal5 (2007-03-23 12:57:26)

topal63 wrote:

too_money2007 wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Or the opposite... the Universe is devoid of life; excepting here; and we are supposed to spread the seed of life; make the ant-farms.

In that case, us = fail

We can't populate the universe with the shit we get caught up in today. I don't see the future really getting to that point. I think a meteor will end it for us eventually anyways.

You never know, maybe you are right... meteor... boom(!)... no more poeple.

And yet I doubt life will be ended as a whole. Even if we are as it has happened in the past, and that is part of the reason we are here (extinction of other species)... if we are gone, who knows what level of intelligence will come after us. 500 mil. years from now - who is to say?

OH GOD i just thought of something!1!1!1!1!1!1
What if there were humans (or intellegant creatures) before us!! then they got extinguished by an asteroid then the dinos came or something similar to that...

If you believe in one Star Trek: Voyager episode, some Dinosaurs escaped their destruction and traveled 70,-000 light years into the Deltra quadrant and being ultra powerful, super intelligent beings........ worst idea ever.


I know what you're saying. As far as we know, we're the smartest things to ever on this planet. I just don't see our species lasting that long considering all the shit out there. The meteor is a good example. The meteor in 2027 will almost hit us, and then has either a 1:10,000 or 1:40,000 (I can't remember) chance of swining back and hitting (it wouldn't kill us all though).

As long as we can find a way to travel at near the speed of light, I see our species dying on this planet and some of us moving else were (where we'll probably perish on the journey due to a meteor).

if alien abduction is real.. then i like to think of it as some sort of nature show.. they go out capture some humans... get some good footage of probings and whatnot.. then back to our natural habitat lol... kinda like taggin animals in nature maybe they just curious.. i mean shootin an animal with tranquilizers and then doin all the blood work and taggin must leave an animal slightly confused right.. seems almost plausible except they only seem to abduct the nut jobs of the world

if there is other life which there probably is then, who says they are smarter/more technologically advanced, it was luck that we invented fire and most of the discoveries were by accident so they may not even have fire yet or may just be frickin space monkeys or something crazy

I agree with a lot of the sentiments in this thread.

Alien contact is unlikely, but possible.

There are times when I wish some alien species would come down and run things, since we seem to be so bad at it....

I actually find the idea of alien life a no brainer.

Further, I believe in reincarnation. Or at least, it makes sense to me as far as this:

Matter never goes away it just changes form. I have felt a spiritual affiliation with trees because my instincts tell me part of me has been a tree before.

I have had  dreams where I stand and watch the ripples of the lakeshore. A cool wind blows though my boughs and I look to the sparrow with envy because they are not resigned to the same rocky soil for a lifetime. I looked across the valley and spied the willow trees, growing in their moist loamy soil. I was jealous.

I have looked to the sky before and felt a genuine feeling of homesickness.

Matter never goes away it just changes form.

Congratulations, you just stated the Principle of Conservation of Energy.

I find it rather difficult believing that aliens would travel for hundreds, thousands or even millions of years (because of course they would have to) just to scare some random guy on a road or stick some foreign object up their ass.

ssj3barua wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

I think the biggest negative is the sheer distance! I love astrophysics, and i know that traveling just to the nearest star at nearly the speed of light would take millions of years. If the speed of light is truely the limit of speed then we are boned. But, as current technology is, it would take 1 billion gallons of fuel to move 1 pound (im almost sure its a pound) at nearly the speed of light. Therefore its impossible with current technology to reach speeds nearing that of light. This is fact. Cant find sources but i saw it on discovery

Um, The closest star is Proxima Centauri in the group Alpha Centari, 4 light years away(4 years traveling at light speed).  Traveling at the speed of light, it would not take millions of years to reach the nearest star. Even traveling at conventional speeds it wouldn't take that long, somewhere like 2,400 years. I think you may have over estimated a bit.

Given those facts normal means of transit become useless. Something akin to the concept of the Mobius Continuum, FTLS propulsion or suspended animation combined with faster than light speed ( FTLS ) would be required. Current technology 125 years ago was the horse and buggy. Your fathers fathers father likely rode in one for transport. It just was like yesterday in terms of history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobius_strip

I miss Phil Hendrie,
http://oe-hq.com/al/myWimpy.html

ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I miss Phil Hendrie,
http://oe-hq.com/al/myWimpy.html

Ya know, he;s great until you figure out he's 905 of the callers too.

But the things he said after 9-11/

i'dda voted for him.

That was the whole gig man. He would argue with himself and get idiots to call in. Maybe the morons that called were planted, but he couldn't have been them.

Anyways, his rants were the best.

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ATG wrote:

IMatter never goes away it just changes form.

Keep in mind though, matter can change into energy (the basic principle of the atomic bomb), but it takes a truck load of energy to transform back into matter. Given the universe's basically moves from a highly ordered state to a low order (all to do with entropy  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy ), it is unlikely that once you transform into an energy state, you are going to be able to change back.

As for aliens out there, almost certainly "Yes". Although either answer is a remarkable one.

Have they visited us? Extremely unlikely. The universe has been around for about 13 billion years, but there really has only been a reasonable short time where life could develop into intelligence capable of interstellar travel. Just travelling would have taken far too long, and the odds of them finding another system with life on it would have been extremely small. So they would have had to decide where they wanted to go before leaving rather than just jaunting around and hope for the best. That means they would have had to decide to come here long before we even invented radio, or steam engines, or probably even the wheel come to think of it. There would have been nothing remarkable about this planet for them to make the call to come here. If we develop interstellar travel, we would have to pick a star that gave some clue to life, but the most likely scenario if we got there would be that the civilisation would have died out by the time we got there (keeping in mind it would have taken many years fore the signal just to reach us, and an even longer time for us to trace it and follow it back to the source).

Also, no government in the world today, even totally oppressive ones would have been able to keep it a secret.

As for transportation devices, you would have to know where every single atom is in order to successfully duplicate whatever you were transporting and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle precludes that from ever happening. They may have transported a sub atomic particle, but that is a long way off from transporting an organic being, with memories. It ain't gonna happen folks. Shame really, I hate sitting in a plane for 10 hours just to get somewhere.

Here's a long video about other life out there. Pretty interesting. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PBtVOhAl2ks