Poll

Should Iraq talk to insurgents?

Yes75%75% - 41
No24%24% - 13
Total: 54
Mason4Assassin444
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lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


It appears to be a difficult task.  Who is your target?
Agreed...  I think we should get out of Iraq as soon as possible, since we can't stomach the brutality that would be required to actually "win" this conflict.
Now lets be accurate on this. It is the democrats that could not stomache a win in Iraq because that would surely mean defeat in 08. You know that is the truth, which is why I loath them so much. They use the lives of our troops for their politcal gains, that has nothing to do with the tasks charged to our military.
OMFG


@ OP.

No. To late to talk.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7038|USA

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Agreed...  I think we should get out of Iraq as soon as possible, since we can't stomach the brutality that would be required to actually "win" this conflict.
Now lets be accurate on this. It is the democrats that could not stomache a win in Iraq because that would surely mean defeat in 08. You know that is the truth, which is why I loath them so much. They use the lives of our troops for their politcal gains, that has nothing to do with the tasks charged to our military.
OMFG


@ OP.

No. To late to talk.
What??!, Do you really think that a failure in Iraq, or on the war on terrorism, is  NOT essential, if the deomcrats are going to take back the White House? Is that such a radical notion or does truth sting a little?
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7049|USA

lowing wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Now lets be accurate on this. It is the democrats that could not stomache a win in Iraq because that would surely mean defeat in 08. You know that is the truth, which is why I loath them so much. They use the lives of our troops for their politcal gains, that has nothing to do with the tasks charged to our military.
OMFG


@ OP.

No. To late to talk.
What??!, Do you really think that a failure in Iraq, or on the war on terrorism, is  NOT essential, if the deomcrats are going to take back the White House? Is that such a radical notion or does truth sting a little?
Im not going into anything to offset the OP.

But if those troops don't come home soon, you may end up with Ralph Nader in the White House.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7038|USA

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:


OMFG


@ OP.

No. To late to talk.
What??!, Do you really think that a failure in Iraq, or on the war on terrorism, is  NOT essential, if the deomcrats are going to take back the White House? Is that such a radical notion or does truth sting a little?
Im not going into anything to offset the OP.

But if those troops don't come home soon, you may end up with Ralph Nader in the White House.
Ok, PM with your answer. I'll be waiting
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6792|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


It appears to be a difficult task.  Who is your target?
Agreed...  I think we should get out of Iraq as soon as possible, since we can't stomach the brutality that would be required to actually "win" this conflict.
If we left now I think we would see a brutality like nothing else we have witnessed since the invasion. Of course we should get out. But our sense of decency haunts us. Some do really care about the Iraqi people. Getting out without a government that has a chance will lay the ground work for genocide. There are politicians who play on our fears and tell us that when we leave Iraqi's will be swimming over to US soil. That is not why I think we need to be careful when speaking in terms of abandoning Iraqi.
Well, I'm glad to hear that you're motivated more by compassion than fear, but I'm motivated mostly by affordability.  This is just too expensive for us to continue much longer.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6792|North Carolina

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


It appears to be a difficult task.  Who is your target?
Agreed...  I think we should get out of Iraq as soon as possible, since we can't stomach the brutality that would be required to actually "win" this conflict.
Now lets be accurate on this. It is the democrats that could not stomache a win in Iraq because that would surely mean defeat in 08. You know that is the truth, which is why I loath them so much. They use the lives of our troops for their politcal gains, that has nothing to do with the tasks charged to our military.
Honestly, I don't know what to make of the Democrats.

On the one hand, what you've said makes since to a point, but on the other hand, there seems to be concern that we're wasting our troops on a futile battle.  I'm of the latter mindset.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6792|North Carolina

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:


OMFG


@ OP.

No. To late to talk.
What??!, Do you really think that a failure in Iraq, or on the war on terrorism, is  NOT essential, if the deomcrats are going to take back the White House? Is that such a radical notion or does truth sting a little?
Im not going into anything to offset the OP.

But if those troops don't come home soon, you may end up with Ralph Nader in the White House.
I wish...  that's not gonna happen though.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7038|USA

Turquoise wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

lowing wrote:

What??!, Do you really think that a failure in Iraq, or on the war on terrorism, is  NOT essential, if the deomcrats are going to take back the White House? Is that such a radical notion or does truth sting a little?
Im not going into anything to offset the OP.

But if those troops don't come home soon, you may end up with Ralph Nader in the White House.
I wish...  that's not gonna happen though.
Some things are worth fighting for. I believe the fight against terrorism is a just and noble fight, a fight which, "bringing them home soon", will seriously curtail.

Last edited by lowing (2007-03-21 19:58:44)

G3|Genius
Pope of BF2s
+355|7013|Sea to globally-cooled sea
no, for the same reason we should not talk to terrorists.

THEY'RE NOT "INSURGENTS" THEY'RE FUCKING TERRORISTS.  THEY ARE TERRORIZING THE IRAQI PEOPLE AND THE AMERICAN TROOPS.

it's people like you with your rhetoric...call it what it is.  Jesus Christ.

edit for bad code (oops)

Last edited by G3|Genius (2007-03-21 20:01:46)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7076|Tampa Bay Florida
All I have to say is, Genius, Bill Watterson would be offended if he knew someone with your beliefs used quotes from his comic strip.  The entire philisophical element of Calvin and Hobbes was to discourage the single minded, black and white bullshit logic you used in the post above.

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-03-21 20:24:58)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6792|North Carolina

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:


Im not going into anything to offset the OP.

But if those troops don't come home soon, you may end up with Ralph Nader in the White House.
I wish...  that's not gonna happen though.
Some things are worth fighting for. I believe the fight against terrorism is a just and noble fight, a fight which, "bringing them home soon", will seriously curtail.
I see it the other way around..  I think our "fight" has only escalated the violence in the region.  We're making new enemies willing to kill us, and this will create a situation where we will continue to fight more and more of the Middle East until we're out of money and friends.
meinfuhrer
Banned
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Magpie wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Magpie wrote:

Its not up for the west to decide its up to the iraqis...U know since they got democracy and shit
Mostly shit you may say.
True and they have the west to thank for there shit . I wonder why they dont like us
The question is, who cares who they like and dont like?

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