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2007-03-20 12:31:43
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7056
Iraq
Katrina
Wanting to give up port security to a foreign country
Outing of CIA agents
Firing 8 judges without warrant
Restricting Scientist from interviews on Global Warming
Walter Reid
Allowing border agents to be prosecuted and paying off the accuser a convicted drug dealer


I'm sure there is more you all can add.  However I look at these alone and think,WTF.  There is a prevailing scent of BS surrounding this administration.  Coupled with the lack of faith of the American people.  Since there is no avenue to pursue to get him out of office without him committing a crime, which in my mind he has committed a crime to the American people.  What can we do.

I would love to see a "No Confidence" vote like the British HOC has.
2007-03-20 12:33:21
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6823|The Gem Saloon
katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
2007-03-20 12:33:58
mKmalfunction
Infamous meleeKings cult. Est. 2003 B.C.
+82|6968|The Lost Highway
I honestly don't think there is anything we can do. Americas no longer for the people by the people. It's for corporate interests by corporations. Democrat and Republican alike.

I honestly think we need another revolution.

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
I think he's criticizing  how they handled Katrina, not implying that they caused the hurricane its self

Last edited by mKmalfunction (2007-03-20 12:35:09)

2007-03-20 12:43:51
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7056

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
2007-03-20 12:48:34
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

GATOR591957 wrote:

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
I saw all kinds of people in India helping rebuild after the earhtquake.  All I saw in New Orleans was people sitting around and waiting for help.
2007-03-20 13:03:18
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7056

usmarine2007 wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
I saw all kinds of people in India helping rebuild after the earhtquake.  All I saw in New Orleans was people sitting around and waiting for help.
I have two nephews that were putting blue plastic on roofs for two months.  Helping their neighbors.  They told me of a firehouse that lost their engine in the storm.  The Fed never sent them one.  They got one from another firehouse in the Mid West who gave them their old one. 

You will also see several trailers sitting outside of town waiting for occupants.  Did we all forget about that fiasco?

I guess my point here is this country ready for a revolution?  I agree with the description above on corporations.  It's time America stood up for what it was truly founded on.  For the people by the people.

Last edited by GATOR591957 (2007-03-20 13:06:41)

2007-03-20 13:07:27
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6984

usmarine2007 wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
I saw all kinds of people in India helping rebuild after the earhtquake.  All I saw in New Orleans was people sitting around and waiting for help.
I think you failed to notice that most of the people rebuilding in India had nice shiny white non-Indian skin.... not to detract from those affected that obviously did pitch in. You seem to be awfully dismissive of the people of New Orleans. Were you there? What did you expect them to do? Suck the water up into their bellies???? That's a blatant insult you just hurled at your fellow New Orleans countrymen who sweat blood and tears to fix the mess they were in. I think you might owe them an apology....

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-20 13:08:27)

2007-03-20 13:10:24
JimmyBotswana
Member
+82|7014|Montreal

mKmalfunction wrote:

I honestly don't think there is anything we can do. Americas no longer for the people by the people. It's for corporate interests by corporations. Democrat and Republican alike.

I honestly think we need another revolution.

Thomas Jefferson wrote:

A little revolution from time to time is a good thing. It is as natural as lightning. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
2007-03-20 13:10:52
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

CameronPoe wrote:

I think you might owe them an apology....
Shut up dude.  That city is the product of government handouts which make people lazy and dependent.
2007-03-20 13:11:02
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6823|The Gem Saloon

GATOR591957 wrote:

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
and what about the local government? or is it easier to blame the administration than admit that the local government dropped the ball? there are plenty of things that i dont like about this administration but come on, go rag on ray nagan about his POS city. besides, hes the one that was so high and mighty and didnt need ANYONES help because they were ready for whatever happened. if you ask me that piece of shit should be rotting in prison for the shit he did.
but i know, its GWs fault.......
2007-03-20 13:14:03
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7030|132 and Bush

usmarine2007 wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

Parker wrote:

katrina?
are you blaming katrina on this administration?
Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
I saw all kinds of people in India helping rebuild after the earhtquake.  All I saw in New Orleans was people sitting around and waiting for help.
FEMA is not a first response agency in the first place. Local and state government were the most responsible for getting people out of harms way, as well as the levies.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-03-20 13:16:30
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6823|The Gem Saloon

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:


Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
I saw all kinds of people in India helping rebuild after the earhtquake.  All I saw in New Orleans was people sitting around and waiting for help.
FEMA is not a first response agency in the first place. Local and state government were the most responsible for getting people out of harms way, as well as the levies.
but they will still try to blame it on bush........
2007-03-20 13:18:24
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6984

usmarine2007 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I think you might owe them an apology....
Shut up dude.  That city is the product of government handouts which make people lazy and dependent.
Forgive me for generalising....lol

Isn't/wasn't New Orleans an important oil terminal/transport hub...? Handout city....
2007-03-20 13:21:22
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6823|The Gem Saloon

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I think you might owe them an apology....
Shut up dude.  That city is the product of government handouts which make people lazy and dependent.
Forgive me for generalising....lol

Isn't/wasn't New Orleans an important oil terminal/transport hub...? Handout city....
katrina destroyed oil assets in the gulf, i know that for a fact. im not sure whether they had to divert shipments elsewhere while new orleans was down....ill have to look into that.
one of the reasons for our high gas prices right now are because of all the platforms that were damaged in the gulf, in fact one was completely wiped off the ocean.....last i heard they still hadnt found the platform....just another reason NOT to work on a platform.
2007-03-20 13:26:18
mKmalfunction
Infamous meleeKings cult. Est. 2003 B.C.
+82|6968|The Lost Highway

JimmyBotswana wrote:

mKmalfunction wrote:

I honestly don't think there is anything we can do. Americas no longer for the people by the people. It's for corporate interests by corporations. Democrat and Republican alike.

I honestly think we need another revolution.

Thomas Jefferson wrote:

A little revolution from time to time is a good thing. It is as natural as lightning. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
I love that quote.

Almost completely off topic, but now I have Spacemen 3's "Revolution" stuck in my head.
2007-03-20 13:26:31
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7091|USA

Parker wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Shut up dude.  That city is the product of government handouts which make people lazy and dependent.
Forgive me for generalising....lol

Isn't/wasn't New Orleans an important oil terminal/transport hub...? Handout city....
katrina destroyed oil assets in the gulf, i know that for a fact. im not sure whether they had to divert shipments elsewhere while new orleans was down....ill have to look into that.
one of the reasons for our high gas prices right now are because of all the platforms that were damaged in the gulf, in fact one was completely wiped off the ocean.....last i heard they still hadnt found the platform....just another reason NOT to work on a platform.
Oil was sky high before Katrina. The reason for high oil prices is simple. You are being raped by oil executives. Thier record breaking profits prove that. Katrina had nothing to do with it though oil platforms were lost there. The price remained the same. High as hell.

AS for the OP:

Politics and bi-partisanship is why no one is held accountable. To many Chiefs and no one talking for the Indians.
2007-03-20 13:27:36
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:


Absolutely.  They have still failed to handle the aftermath.
I saw all kinds of people in India helping rebuild after the earhtquake.  All I saw in New Orleans was people sitting around and waiting for help.
FEMA is not a first response agency in the first place. Local and state government were the most responsible for getting people out of harms way, as well as the levies.
Not to mention the local corrupt leaders who were stealing money for years that should have been spent on things like levies and evacuation plans.
2007-03-20 13:29:13
UGADawgs
Member
+13|6750|South Carolina, US
You'd think that because the evil Bush administration lied to go to war to get all of the oil in Iraq (which they're doing such a good job of now), they'd be rushing to get New Orleans, a major import and refining hub for petroleum, back on line...

If Nagin had not done stupid stuff like let hundreds of school buses just get flooded rather than be put to use, then perhaps the condemnation of Bush would be more well-placed. The federal government could have responded quicker, but the majority of the blame lays on the state and especially local government. All this nonsense about how Bush let the black people drown in New Orleans is just that, nonsense.
2007-03-20 13:31:03
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6823|The Gem Saloon

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Parker wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Forgive me for generalising....lol

Isn't/wasn't New Orleans an important oil terminal/transport hub...? Handout city....
katrina destroyed oil assets in the gulf, i know that for a fact. im not sure whether they had to divert shipments elsewhere while new orleans was down....ill have to look into that.
one of the reasons for our high gas prices right now are because of all the platforms that were damaged in the gulf, in fact one was completely wiped off the ocean.....last i heard they still hadnt found the platform....just another reason NOT to work on a platform.
Oil was sky high before Katrina. The reason for high oil prices is simple. You are being raped by oil executives. Thier record breaking profits prove that. Katrina had nothing to do with it though oil platforms were lost there. The price remained the same. High as hell.

AS for the OP:

Politics and bi-partisanship is why no one is held accountable. To many Chiefs and no one talking for the Indians.
i used to work for a guy that spent 30 years offshore and still has many connections. we had an extremely long talk about oil prices being impacted by the loss of platforms.
i know those fat fuckers are robbing me blind every time i go to the gas station, but the fact is we lost those platforms and it means less oil which drives up prices. the market fluctuates and the smallest bullshit will throw it in their favor...
2007-03-20 13:37:42
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6997|Mountains of NC

Also it was during the Clinton Adminstration that ceased funding on the levies - Now since Nagin is in charge of overseeing the city and the Gov (can't remember her name) is in charge of the state, 1 of them should have gotten on the horn to washington long before Katrina hit and reminded someone that they need the funding to finish


and also I can't believe Nagin got relected
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2007-03-20 13:46:14
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7030|132 and Bush

I was there during the aftermath. I have a friend that works for Florida power (Electric company) and they sent allot of help that way. They were working 18 hours at a time. I went down there for two weeks to help. The federal response was very slow, but the preparing was an even bigger disgrace. Logistically it was hard just to get to the people that needed help. I am sure you guys saw the boats driving down the streets. Those guys were busting their ass to get to them. That's why I can't help but think the majority of the death came from a lack of transporting them. People were stuck in their attic with no food for weeks. Here in Florida anytime there is a hint of a hurricane we immediately begin planning evac routes and stationing trucks full of water strategically through the state. I think despite the years of warning the people of LA felt untouchable perhaps. I don't think New Orleans was even given a 24 hour notice to get out. That has comes from the Governor/Mayor. Most of those area's were so impoverished that finding away to move them was hopeless by the time they made the decision.

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SEREMAKER the Clinton administration did not cease to fund the levies. I don't know where you got that. The problem was they (The state) were using the funding for other projects. They were voting down tax increases and pulling funds from the money devoted to the levies.


Also to the OP, Port Security was never for sale.

"Nothing in this acquisition has anything to do with the responsibility for security in American ports," State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said. "That remains very firmly in the hands of the Department of Homeland Security. What we're talking about is the management of some port operations."

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-20 14:01:46)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-03-20 14:02:50
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6997|Mountains of NC

Kmarion wrote:

I was there during the aftermath. I have a friend that works for Florida power (Electric company) and they sent allot of help that way. They were working 18 hours at a time. I went down there for two weeks to help. The federal response was very slow, but the preparing was an even bigger disgrace. Logistically it was hard just to get to the people that needed help. I am sure you guys saw the boats driving down the streets. Those guys were busting their ass to get to them. That's why I can't help but think the majority of the death came from a lack of transporting them. People were stuck in their attic with no food for weeks. Here in Florida anytime there is a hint of a hurricane we immediately begin planning evac routes and stationing trucks full of water strategically through the state. I think despite the years of warning the people of LA felt untouchable perhaps. I don't think New Orleans was even given a 24 hour notice to get out. That has comes from the Governor/Mayor. Most of those area's were so impoverished that finding away to move them was hopeless by the time they made the decision.

http://i11.tinypic.com/2v83995.jpg

SEREMAKER the Clinton administration did not cease to fund the levies. I don't know where you got that. The problem was they (The state) were using the funding for other projects. They were voting down tax increases and pulling funds from the money devoted to the levies.
hmmmmmmmmmmm give a few mins to wind through the enourmous paperwork here then I'll try to find where I read about Clinton, the Army Corps and the levies - it was something about that they havn't been worked on since the 60's ( I think) and the funds ceased on a mutual decison between state and federal

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2007-03-20 14:12:04
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6719|Éire
What are you all talking about, the Bush administration did loads to help...
2007-03-20 14:12:39
chittydog
less busy
+586|7264|Kubra, Damn it!

SEREMAKER wrote:

it was something about that they havn't been worked on since the 60's ( I think)
I didn't realize the Clinton administration was in power in the 60's. Damn you, Bill, for letting those people die!
2007-03-20 14:14:49
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6922|Connecticut

usmarine2007 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I think you might owe them an apology....
Shut up dude.  That city is the product of government handouts which make people lazy and dependent.
Incorrect. They aren't lazy because I saw them looting electronics stores for big screen TV's. Those are heavy you know, how could you call them lazy?
Malloy must go

 

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